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Selene Monster helm - Zzz failure maybe?

Lukums1
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Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

Someone drop the ball there?
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  • lynog85
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.
  • Lukums1
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    Jezus that seems like a real issue.
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  • ihtizar
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    really? eh?
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  • WalksonGraves
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    So all those procs from whirlwind and blade cloak were hallucinations?
  • Waffennacht
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    So all those procs from whirlwind and blade cloak were hallucinations?

    Which is crazy that they would proc on whirlwind but not rapid strikes...
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  • Dovahmiim
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    It procs from direct damage, ie. not channeled damage or DoTs. It shouldn't be proccing from Biting Jabs either.
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  • lynog85
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    So all those procs from whirlwind and blade cloak were hallucinations?

    yes
  • acw37162
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    I feel confident selenes would proc on the light attack before jabs and not jabs.

    I would need to see this, if shouldn't proc on jobs or rapid strikes.
    Edited by acw37162 on November 13, 2016 3:41AM
  • Lukums1
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    It procs on jabs was watching my mate last night confirmed.
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  • DeanTheCat
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    Selene isn't proccing on Jabs per se, but rather the burning light proc of Jabs. Jabs and Rapid Strikes are considered DoTs by the game, and therefore are not considered "Direct melee damage".
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  • Lukums1
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Selene isn't proccing on Jabs per se, but rather the burning light proc of Jabs. Jabs and Rapid Strikes are considered DoTs by the game, and therefore are not considered "Direct melee damage".

    still means its procing does it not.
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  • DeanTheCat
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Selene isn't proccing on Jabs per se, but rather the burning light proc of Jabs. Jabs and Rapid Strikes are considered DoTs by the game, and therefore are not considered "Direct melee damage".

    still means its procing does it not.

    Nope. The difference matters.

    1) As this isn't proccing on Jabs but rather burning light, you can used your ranged Aedric Spear abilities to proc it. (Although, why would you?) Blazing Shield will also proc Selene.

    2) As it procs off burning light and not each individual hit of Jabs, you are getting 4 less chances to proc it. Burning Light has an internal cooldown of 1 second, which means there will only ever be 1 proc of burning light per jab cast. This means that you have a 3.75% chance of proccing Selene on a single cast of Jabs instead of 63.75% chance if it procced on the main cast of Jabs. This is a very significant difference.
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  • AAbrigo
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    Selene procs on steel tornado and rending slashes, but yeah rapid strikes doesnt seem to proc it and thats the reason I dont use it in slot anymore
  • Alucardo
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    so why does hidden blade proc viper?
  • DeanTheCat
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    so why does hidden blade proc viper?

    The poison enchantment on the blades =P
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  • nordsavage
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    I have reported this as a bug in game and the best thing for you all to do is report it as well.
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  • silky_soft
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.
    Alucardo wrote: »
    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    so why does hidden blade proc viper?

    What he said.
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  • Lukums1
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    silky_soft wrote: »
    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.
    Alucardo wrote: »
    lynog85 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    Why does selene monster set proc from temp jabs but not on rapid strikes?

    Someone drop the ball there?

    no duel wield abilities are recognised as melee, god knows why.

    so why does hidden blade proc viper?

    What he said.

    Lol, ^
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  • Lashiing
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    is there a thread somewhere with categories and their respective skills?
    i.e.:

    direct damage:
    steel tornado
    burning light

    dots:
    rapid strikes
    etc
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