Viper + Red mountain + Velidreth + stamsorc?

alephthiago

With this combination.....can we kill a player in ONE Critical Rush?

Velidreth - (2 items) When you deal damage, you have a 20% chance to spawn 3 disease spores in front of you that deal 10320 Disease Damage to the first enemy hit.
Viper - (5 items) Your Melee Attacks deal 6720 Poison damage.
RM - (5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.
Implosion - 6% chance of pulverizing target under 15% health

DeanTheCat

Why not?

Assuming it's one of those people who walk around in Light Armour with no inpen and shields down, it's possible to instantly kill said player if you are lucky enough. Then again, for such a target, almost anything would have shredded him/her within a few seconds, so it's a moot point anyway.

Edziu

alephthiago wrote: »

With this combination.....can we kill a player in ONE Critical Rush?

Velidreth - (2 items) When you deal damage, you have a 20% chance to spawn 3 disease spores in front of you that deal 10320 Disease Damage to the first enemy hit.
Viper - (5 items) Your Melee Attacks deal 6720 Poison damage.
RM - (5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.
Implosion - 6% chance of pulverizing target under 15% health

if you want to be hated, harrasing by using cancer buil, then yes

get ready for wave of harrasing on you then if you will use this build, more annyoing than unkillable templars, dk btw

here you have just from only 2 those sets from nb and look on time in combat log....just 1-2 sec for all, nty

Bobby_V_Rockit

Glad I dont PvP

Jar_Ek

@Edziu Most pvp builds are cancerous these days I'm afraid... there are just so many ways to make them now.

Edziu

Jar_Ek wrote: »

@Edziu Most pvp builds are cancerous these days I'm afraid... there are just so many ways to make them now.

yea...I have an idea how to stop it mostly...off all monster sets from cyrodil, problem mostly solved, monster sets comined with other sets are most cancerous builds, off this *** from pvp, make it only pve like it should be and all will be happy.

pvp players will dont need more to wait until vendor or farm this in pve

Omgwtfbbq321

They need to tone the game down a fair bit. It's been said before, but I'll say it again. The power creep is out of control. Too much damage, too much survivability, too much recovery. You don't need to sacrifice anything anymore.

That's why you have the cancer builds that allow you to do pretty much anything without effort.

Edziu

Omgwtfbbq321 wrote: »

They need to tone the game down a fair bit. It's been said before, but I'll say it again. The power creep is out of control. Too much damage, too much survivability, too much recovery. You don't need to sacrifice anything anymore.

That's why you have the cancer builds that allow you to do pretty much anything without effort.

yea, this is it, now the ost balanced pvp is on azure, add to this soft caps and problem will be solved then, like before

alephthiago

These procs are out of control man, soon i will have to join

Ankael07

Replace red mountain with widowmaker for 10% more proc chance with poisons and there you have your literally toxic build

Gargath

Have to say I just created a similar stamina build but with Dunmer dual wield templar based on physical damage and daggers.
5 pcs. Viper
5 pcs. Red Mountain
2 pcs. Selene Monster
So far it works great in pve, the mauling bear deals massive crit. damage, however I haven't tested it yet in pvp .
Btw hard to see when procs the Viper and when Red Mountain, probably RM from light/heavy attacks, and Viper from Puncturing Sweeps, but not sure...

psychotic13

Man I hate all these proc sets

Swomp23

In my (very limited) experience, Red Mountain doesn't proc enough in PVP to be that toxic. In PVE, you can stack DOTs (poison inj., endless hail, rending slashes) plus rapid strikes to get a proc about every 3 secs. In PVP, except for poison injection, you don't really have any weapon ability DOT, and the spammable skill from 2H is freaking slow. I'm a complete noob in PVP and just trying to farm Vigor, so there is definitively a L2P issue here, but I don't see how to make RM proc often enough.

cellobuddy

Swomp23 wrote: »

In my (very limited) experience, Red Mountain doesn't proc enough in PVP to be that toxic. In PVE, you can stack DOTs (poison inj., endless hail, rending slashes) plus rapid strikes to get a proc about every 3 secs. In PVP, except for poison injection, you don't really have any weapon ability DOT, and the spammable skill from 2H is freaking slow. I'm a complete noob in PVP and just trying to farm Vigor, so there is definitively a L2P issue here, but I don't see how to make RM proc often enough.

rapid strikes. Time it w/ your viper and veli cooldown and you'll get a rm proc in there. If they aren't an insane tank build or using a 25k shield, they're dead. Works great if you have a class-based gapcloser. (High movement speed for stamsorcs, toppling charge for stamplars, ambush for stamblades, could even go w/ empowering chains for DK although pulling things to you is much better in PvE, and the gain may not really be worth it in PvP)

Gargath

Seems hard to predict when some sets should proc, especially that it's sometimes different way than the tooltip says. For example the below Selene's attack proc at my build each few hits from DW Shrouded Daggers, which is ranged attack and as a result the giant bear spirit cannot deal any damage due to distance, it only shows and roars .

* (2 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 15% chance to call on a primal spirit that mauls the closest enemy in front of you for 12000 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Good thing is that my physical build has not 12k but ~15k base damage on this 2-nd passive, and ~22-24k on critical. Sometimes it pulverizes 31k hp enemy with a shortened animation - they just die instantly on single click.
I wonder how selene's bear works in pvp.

tailedfox

I hate these new sets with multiple procs lol, my shields are strong but people using this set up literally melt my shields away and boom I'm done. It happens so fast

Darethran

Who was it that suggested this idea to the development team?

STEVIL

alephthiago wrote: »

With this combination.....can we kill a player in ONE Critical Rush?

Velidreth - (2 items) When you deal damage, you have a 20% chance to spawn 3 disease spores in front of you that deal 10320 Disease Damage to the first enemy hit.
Viper - (5 items) Your Melee Attacks deal 6720 Poison damage.
RM - (5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.
Implosion - 6% chance of pulverizing target under 15% health

What is "a trick question"?

I think the technical answer is NO you cannot kill the enemy in one crit rush with these sets.

Not happening.

Period.

Why?

Crit rush is a 2h weapon skill and so you could not have a 5/5/2 build running while you use crit-rush.

You could have Body/jewels at 4/4/2 and have different bars complete the different sets, crit rush in with one, swap over etc.

But not just crit rush proc proc proc and dead.

IMO you should consider replacing Red mtn maybe with night terror where enemy counter attacks cause them 2k+ damage every second. then your crit rush in and instantly swap to terror if they swing back at all they take like 2k auto instead of your 10% proc for 8k.

So, there you go.

Now i'll take niggling Details for 500, alex.

AAbrigo

Love these cancer builds..

5pcs red mountain
5pcs Viper
2pcs Selene

Heavy attack, shrouded daggers and then spam rending slashes+light attack

In pvp Velidreth would probably be better..