Summoner Call

Inhuman003

This is for those who do sorry that what to see something new in summoning, or 100% magic builds that would like to summon in a different class. The reason why I'm saying this summoning abilities or ultimate for the Mage Skill Line. If it's not in the Mage's Guild what is the point with out summoning. For example summon a spirit wolf to aid you in the fight or a eagle that can do strike attacks. So if you don't want to be a werewolf or a vampire for those abilities but these are ultimates. And new summon ultimates replicate Summon Storm Arona ch but in a big way.

Before anyone says this I know there are two set's that summon animals or daedric and weapons but not many that summon blade attacks (just one weapons) if I'm wrong I'm wrong. We can further this with jewelry set's as well, we all haven't seen a set of jewelry do summoning right.

Let's break the yoke

Gothren

I disagree. sorc and sorc alone should only have those spells. I dont want to see summon animal spells. daedra only. A summon eagle spell sound weird and lame IMO. However, maybe they can expand summoning to everyone by adding conjuration staff or conjuration weapon enchantments. Deadric prey should remain exclusive to sorcs only.

Inhuman003

I love the game and hate the game but I don't care what other people think just stop playing Stay out and go back to where it was that you was doing

Apherius

Gothren wrote: »

I disagree. sorc and sorc alone should only have those spells. I dont want to see summon animal spells. daedra only. A summon eagle spell sound weird and lame IMO. However, maybe they can expand summoning to everyone by adding conjuration staff or conjuration weapon enchantments. Deadric prey should remain exclusive to sorcs only.

YES , THANK YOU MAN

only sorc should be able to summoning .

stewhead2ub17_ESO

"Let's break the yoke"

I think you mean "yolk". Carry on.

Inhuman003

If I would have kept out 100% magic builds that would like to summon in a different class. Everything would have been legit

susmitds

Gothren wrote: »

I disagree. sorc and sorc alone should only have those spells. I dont want to see summon animal spells. daedra only. A summon eagle spell sound weird and lame IMO. However, maybe they can expand summoning to everyone by adding conjuration staff or conjuration weapon enchantments. Deadric prey should remain exclusive to sorcs only.

Do you that there are more NBs using Necropotence, a set designed for pets, then than sorcerers?

Gothren

Every class has certain skills and passives that set them apart from others classes. Sorc should always have an edge for pet type builds. Reroll as a sorc if you want them.

Thymos

Gothren wrote: »

I disagree. sorc and sorc alone should only have those spells. I dont want to see summon animal spells. daedra only. A summon eagle spell sound weird and lame IMO. However, maybe they can expand summoning to everyone by adding conjuration staff or conjuration weapon enchantments. Deadric prey should remain exclusive to sorcs only.

I agree with this. However, if the game ever does get spell crafting, we all know things may change...

For now, I like the classes as is.

SirMewser

Inhuman003 wrote: »

ESO is just a bloody game people get over it

Yes it is a game, which was paid for and involves spending time on.

Some people want to see it improve and only grow, not communicating and showing expression on a topic is not constructive nor positive for an MMO, accept it.

Inhuman003 wrote: »

I love the game and hate the game but I don't care what other people think just stop playing Stay out and go back to where it was that you was doing

No one here was making a personal attack on you, only personal opinions on what was said, not judgement on you.

If you don't care about what people think, why did you create a discussion? Why do you even reply? I am not convinced.

As for the OP, Daedric Summoning needs a lot of improvements as it currently is full of toggles, passives that are irrelevant to summoning or otherwise strange (like rewarding player's magic for when a pet dies). If other classes gain access to summoning, let it not be Daedra in addition to any utility such as Daedric Prey and Conjured Ward unless they are a Sorcerer. It would be fine if this skill line had more going for it, then I would be fine with everyone being able to summon, but it doesn't.

High speculations on the warden class being readded to ESO, seems like summoning fauna will become a thing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/50w3jf/data_mining_three_new_skills/?sort=new
"Data mined information on "3 new skills"
"I have datamined three new skills in the latest PTS update:
Winter's Embrace
Green Balance
Animal Companions
No additional info yet, only names. Maybe a new class?"

old_mufasa

I guess the people that only say you should be only be able to summon Daedra... and only sorc should be allowed to.. never summon there mounts in game.... ever...

Gothren

Im not against having a world skill line for summon spells which everyone can use. However, daedric prey and conjured ward belongs to sorcs. It should remain that way. I gave my opinion and what I disagree with. No need for insults.

Inhuman003

SirMewser wrote: »

Inhuman003 wrote: »

ESO is just a bloody game people get over it

Yes it is a game, which was paid for and involves spending time on.

Some people want to see it improve and only grow, not communicating and showing expression on a topic is not constructive nor positive for an MMO, accept it.

Inhuman003 wrote: »

I love the game and hate the game but I don't care what other people think just stop playing Stay out and go back to where it was that you was doing

No one here was making a personal attack on you, only personal opinions on what was said, not judgement on you.

If you don't care about what people think, why did you create a discussion? Why do you even reply? I am not convinced.

As for the OP, Daedric Summoning needs a lot of improvements as it currently is full of toggles, passives that are irrelevant to summoning or otherwise strange (like rewarding player's magic for when a pet dies). If other classes gain access to summoning, let it not be Daedra in addition to any utility such as Daedric Prey and Conjured Ward unless they are a Sorcerer. It would be fine if this skill line had more going for it, then I would be fine with everyone being able to summon, but it doesn't.

High speculations on the warden class being readded to ESO, seems like summoning fauna will become a thing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/50w3jf/data_mining_three_new_skills/?sort=new
"Data mined information on "3 new skills"
"I have datamined three new skills in the latest PTS update:
Winter's Embrace
Green Balance
Animal Companions
No additional info yet, only names. Maybe a new class?"

Thank for the info

Inhuman003

Gothren wrote: »

Im not against having a world skill line for summon spells which everyone can use. However, daedric prey and conjured ward belongs to sorcs. It should remain that way. I gave my opinion and what I disagree with. No need for insults.

Your right

AnviOfVai

Inhuman003 wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

Im not against having a world skill line for summon spells which everyone can use. However, daedric prey and conjured ward belongs to sorcs. It should remain that way. I gave my opinion and what I disagree with. No need for insults.

Your right

Why would other players need to access summons.... there is no need for it? Sorc's already struggle with PVP summons. If anything summons should be improved for Sorcs. Perhaps after this maybe summons could be Incorporated, though I cant see how a tank could use any, and Nightblades already have that shadowy thing.

Daemons_Bane

I'm inclined to agree that summoning belongs with the sorcerers.. If it were to spread to another class, it would have to be an entirely new one.. Someone mentioned summoning eagles, so perhaps a druid?

ZOS_JohanaB

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Gothren

Summons in pvp are fine IMO. I have had no issues pvp'ing with them.They excel when you are on your own rather than in a large group play. Im excited about the shadowrend visage set. I can't wait to get this set when update 12 comes out. Im also looking forward for a 1 piece max magicka 2 piece summoning monster set in the future.

UrQuan

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

"Let's break the yoke"

I think you mean "yolk". Carry on.

Actually @stewhead2ub17_ESO I don't think so.

Yoke = something to harness oxen (or other animals) to a plough.
Yolk = the part of an egg that nourishes the embryo.

"Break the yoke" is a figure of speech related to the former, because it refers to freeing someone/thing from something else that could be considered to be holding them back (in context, OP would be referring to freeing summoning abilities from only being class abilities). "Break the yolk" is something that you do when you want to make scrambled eggs.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

@UrQuan thank you. I can see it from that angle now that you mention it. I was more thinking the OP was referring to "shaking things up" type of perspective.

Apherius

I'm sorcerer , i want a finisher like NB , i want a skill that give me Infinite mana with like attack , like NB , i want A very good dps ultimate like DK , i want a very good aoe like NB , you see Inhuman003 ? i love ask for steal Skill of other class too .

xAshurx

Necromancer skill line or bust.

Inhuman003

xAshurx wrote: »

Necromancer skill line or bust.

can you tell me more about bust.