22.7k magicka, 34.7k health, 50.8k stam, 3.5k weapon damage. no emp. no imp physique. self buffed.

krathos

Disclaimer: this isn't a serious build. So chill your egos because this build isn't intended to be a valid setup.
So for anyone who has checked out the PTS you can see that many of the new sets offer insane stats. For reference here's a screenshot in Cyrodiil.

No emp.
No imperial physique.
No continuous attack
No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).
Only self buffs (crit surge & hurricane).

I did have 10% from warhorn.
This is with an Orc. Imperial would have even higher stats but I wouldn't run imperial over orc or redguard anyways.
5x draugr
5x trainee
2x that new duneripper monster set

edit: just realized i didnt even grab a mundus stone on this pts toon yet either. updated pic w/ warrior as mundus



For reference my puncture tooltip was over 9k

susmitds

Why would you let weapon damage drop so low just for extra stamina and magicka?

Leingod

10 Stam ~ 1 WD

krathos

susmitds wrote: »

Why would you let weapon damage drop so low just for extra stamina and magicka?

@susmitds First, you realize this is just a PTS build, ya? Also you do understand that max stam factors into tooltip damage, ya? Also you realize this is 1h/shield, ya?

DannyLV702

I need dis

susmitds

krathos wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Why would you let weapon damage drop so low just for extra stamina and magicka?

@susmitds First, you realize this is just a PTS build, ya? Also you do understand that max stam factors into tooltip damage, ya? Also you realize this is 1h/shield, ya?

I get your point. It is just that Weapon Damage can be stacked much higher in case of Stamina builds. Weapon Damage also generally scales faster.

Perpetuation

susmitds wrote: »

I get your point. It is just that Weapon Damage can be stacked much higher in case of Stamina builds. Weapon Damage also generally scales faster.

For s/b that is actually really high, with the extra stam that's pretty crazy

LeifErickson

Oh gosh. And I'm over here thinking viper veli black rose was bad.

krathos

susmitds wrote: »

krathos wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Why would you let weapon damage drop so low just for extra stamina and magicka?

@susmitds First, you realize this is just a PTS build, ya? Also you do understand that max stam factors into tooltip damage, ya? Also you realize this is 1h/shield, ya?

I get your point. It is just that Weapon Damage can be stacked much higher in case of Stamina builds. Weapon Damage also generally scales faster.

Except you would lose a lot health, stam, and magicka to add a set w/ just weapon damage. A wicked lot of it. Go look at the sets and see what they do - this patch it's kinda all or nothing stats wise since sets are so stacked. 3.2k 3.5k is pretty high for a 1h/shield as is w/o 50k stam. For reference, most people would say that 4.5k weapon damage and 40k stam would be pretty high. This has the same overall damage, just 12k more magicka and 9k more health than usual added to it, and it's 1h/shield.

krathos

@susmitds plus i forgot to get a mundus so if you want some more WD go get warrior XD

KenaPKK

krathos wrote: »

For reference my puncture tooltip was over 9k

It's over 9000!

Recremen

Such great sets, but such crap motifs. WTB a restyling system, please to thank.

KenaPKK

Trainee is an awesome looking set. Is Draugr the all max stam set?

Ghost-Shot

This is disgusting, nerf the *** out of stam already!

krathos

KenaPKK wrote: »

Trainee is an awesome looking set. Is Draugr the all max stam set?

@KenaPKK yep, stam, stam, stam, 3k stam lol

krathos

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

This is disgusting, nerf the *** out of stam already!

@Ghost-Shot not that i disagree but you could get fairly equal stats using necropotence instead of draugr. Granted that set is pretty much limited to sorcs & nbs.

DKsUnite

but this is with bound armaments and warhorn? which is like 18% more stam right? does anyone actually run either of those two buffs in pvp when solo? also you can see you are running most likely all infused aswell since your impene is 0. again not viable in cyro.

right now on live it is possible to achieve 4k+ WD and 40k stam with 30k health without warhorn and bound armaments. The only difference between my build and your build is you have 10k more mag.

regardless though, nerf stamina

Leingod

krathos wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

This is disgusting, nerf the *** out of stam already!

@Ghost-Shot not that i disagree but you could get fairly equal stats using necropotence instead of draugr. Granted that set is pretty much limited to sorcs & nbs.

And w/ the stipulation of pets.

krathos

DKsUnite wrote: »

but this is with bound armaments and warhorn? which is like 18% more stam right? does anyone actually run either of those two buffs in pvp when solo? also you can see you are running most likely all infused aswell since your impene is 0. again not viable in cyro.

right now on live it is possible to achieve 4k+ WD and 40k stam with 30k health without warhorn and bound armaments. The only difference between my build and your build is you have 10k more mag.

regardless though, nerf stamina

@DKsUnite
I know. I run a 4kWD 43k stam DK on live. Also no infused. It's all divines and 1 sturdy because that's what the boxes give, obviously impen should be used. So the WD is a bit higher than it should be but not by much. Bound armaments is run on 1h/shield builds fairly often. My no-warhorn stats are still ~32k health, 20k mag, 47k stam.

Also this post is for fun and only begins to outline the craziness of next patch's sets compared to what's on live.

MaximillianDiE

krathos wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

but this is with bound armaments and warhorn? which is like 18% more stam right? does anyone actually run either of those two buffs in pvp when solo? also you can see you are running most likely all infused aswell since your impene is 0. again not viable in cyro.

right now on live it is possible to achieve 4k+ WD and 40k stam with 30k health without warhorn and bound armaments. The only difference between my build and your build is you have 10k more mag.

regardless though, nerf stamina

@DKsUnite
I know. I run a 4kWD 43k stam DK on live. Also no infused. It's all divines and 1 sturdy because that's what the boxes give, obviously impen should be used. So the WD is a bit higher than it should be but not by much. Bound armaments is run on 1h/shield builds fairly often. My no-warhorn stats are still ~32k health, 20k mag, 47k stam.

Also this post is for fun and only begins to outline the craziness of next patch's sets compared to what's on live.

What sets are you running for those stats on live?

olsborg

Pretty abyssmal stamina regen tho... just have to focus on the negative here:)

DKsUnite

krathos wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

but this is with bound armaments and warhorn? which is like 18% more stam right? does anyone actually run either of those two buffs in pvp when solo? also you can see you are running most likely all infused aswell since your impene is 0. again not viable in cyro.

right now on live it is possible to achieve 4k+ WD and 40k stam with 30k health without warhorn and bound armaments. The only difference between my build and your build is you have 10k more mag.

regardless though, nerf stamina

@DKsUnite
I know. I run a 4kWD 43k stam DK on live. Also no infused. It's all divines and 1 sturdy because that's what the boxes give, obviously impen should be used. So the WD is a bit higher than it should be but not by much. Bound armaments is run on 1h/shield builds fairly often. My no-warhorn stats are still ~32k health, 20k mag, 47k stam.

Also this post is for fun and only begins to outline the craziness of next patch's sets compared to what's on live.

didnt know bound was a thing lol. yeh i know the post wasnt serious but we have that on live and no one is talking about it hahah.

DKsUnite

olsborg wrote: »

Pretty abyssmal stamina regen tho... just have to focus on the negative here:)

its heavy armour though so he has regen from const. and also dark deal scales off health so

krathos

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

krathos wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

but this is with bound armaments and warhorn? which is like 18% more stam right? does anyone actually run either of those two buffs in pvp when solo? also you can see you are running most likely all infused aswell since your impene is 0. again not viable in cyro.

right now on live it is possible to achieve 4k+ WD and 40k stam with 30k health without warhorn and bound armaments. The only difference between my build and your build is you have 10k more mag.

regardless though, nerf stamina

@DKsUnite
I know. I run a 4kWD 43k stam DK on live. Also no infused. It's all divines and 1 sturdy because that's what the boxes give, obviously impen should be used. So the WD is a bit higher than it should be but not by much. Bound armaments is run on 1h/shield builds fairly often. My no-warhorn stats are still ~32k health, 20k mag, 47k stam.

Also this post is for fun and only begins to outline the craziness of next patch's sets compared to what's on live.

What sets are you running for those stats on live?

@MaximillianDiE 5x black rose, 3x agility 2x night silence 2x bloodspawn on a redguard stam dk w/ tower mundus. Build is on my TY channel. KrathosGaming.

IxSTALKERxI

Yeah I have a spreadsheet with 21 different set combinations on it so far - the stats & tooltips for each combo is pretty crazy - but so far they are all kind of equally insane if that's any consolation lol. Gonna be an annoying meta lol.

code65536

Re: stam vs. WD: WD has permanent amps from FG passives, medium armor passives, sorc passives, and operational amps from Major/Minor Brutality. Max stam has amps from racials, Undaunted, sorc passives, CP, and an operational amp from War Horn. The amps for WD will never change, but the amps for max resources increase as you get more CP.

Re: Trainee: It has the minor downside that the armor will be available only in Training.

krathos

@DKsUnite yeah but this is just a further continuation of that. overally slightly higher stats than what you can already achieve on live (which is ridiculous) combined w/ duneripper set (or w/e its called) which is insanely strong. It's basically like running my live setup except i can spam my magicka utilities a lot more and have a bit more health/stam. In fact I take my live set and swap bloodspawn for dune ripper and 3x agility 2x night silence for draugr and you can get ~28k health, 10k magicka, 53k stam, 3.8k weapon damage easily which is more likely what i'd run.

krathos

code65536 wrote: »

Re: stam vs. WD: WD has permanent amps from FG passives, medium armor passives, sorc passives, and operational amps from Major/Minor Brutality. Max stam has amps from racials, Undaunted, sorc passives, CP, and an operational amp from War Horn. The amps for WD will never change, but the amps for max resources increase as you get more CP.

Re: Trainee: It has the minor downside that the armor will be available only in Training.

@code65536 do you have reference on that training part? on PTS they are not coming in all training. theyre divine and one piece sturdy in the boxes.

krathos

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Yeah I have a spreadsheet with 21 different set combinations on it so far - the stats & tooltips for each combo is pretty crazy - but so far they are all kind of equally insane if that's any consolation lol. Gonna be an annoying meta lol.

yeah same. there's gonna be a lot of strong setups.

WillhelmBlack

but does it come in impenetrable?

code65536

krathos wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Re: stam vs. WD: WD has permanent amps from FG passives, medium armor passives, sorc passives, and operational amps from Major/Minor Brutality. Max stam has amps from racials, Undaunted, sorc passives, CP, and an operational amp from War Horn. The amps for WD will never change, but the amps for max resources increase as you get more CP.

Re: Trainee: It has the minor downside that the armor will be available only in Training.

@code65536 do you have reference on that training part? on PTS they are not coming in all training. theyre divine and one piece sturdy in the boxes.

What you see in the templates do not always reflect what you collect in the actual content. For example, the original IC PTS had gold Willpower/Agility/Endurance jewelry that never ever appeared in the actual game. In any case, a dev had commented at one point in one of the PAX streams that Trainee is a special set (available only on the starter islands) and is available only in training. I have not personally tested this, though I did come across one forum post where someone was complaining about only finding it in Training.