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22.7k magicka, 34.7k health, 50.8k stam, 3.5k weapon damage. no emp. no imp physique. self buffed.

  • juhasman
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    You can get max stamina even higher by using 1/1 monster sets parts that gives stamina. I had 50k without horn on 300cp redguard template in black rose.

    PS. I reccomend redguard for that build. Adrenaline rush passve scales of max stamina so more stamina You have more stamina You get back.
    Edited by juhasman on September 8, 2016 6:23AM
  • krathos
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    juhasman wrote: »
    You can get max stamina even higher by using 1/1 monster sets parts that gives stamina. I had 50k without horn on 300cp redguard template in black rose.

    PS. I reccomend redguard for that build. Adrenaline rush passve scales of max stamina so more stamina You have more stamina You get back.

    yeah the goal wasn't to get stam as high as possible though... lol my actual build i will be running is my current BR setup but with 50k+ stam
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  • Vaoh
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    krathos wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    This is disgusting, nerf the *** out of stam already!

    @Ghost-Shot not that i disagree but you could get fairly equal stats using necropotence instead of draugr. Granted that set is pretty much limited to sorcs & nbs.

    Granted Necropotence is a terrible set on Magicka Sorc, because Pets are absolutely atrocious.

    Only a Magicka NB can really make use of Necropotence, but that is a waste because Mag NB has many other sets to choose from that really benefit their playstyle more.


    Tone down Stamina buids, Buff Magicka builds, Buff Sorcerer Pets A LOT
    Edited by Vaoh on September 8, 2016 8:32AM
  • Derra
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    And again this raises the question why there is no magica equivalent to draugr hulk (hello rework for necropotence maybe because pets are crap?).
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  • olsborg
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    Derra wrote: »
    And again this raises the question why there is no magica equivalent to draugr hulk (hello rework for necropotence maybe because pets are crap?).

    Necropotence can work pretty well with shadow image. Sorc pets are crap tho, yes.

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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Just curious, what's the purpose of this build? A gank build with too much hp? Or do you plan to spam dark deal 24/7?
    I mean it could work on a redguard dk with helping hands, adrenalin rush and battle roar, but on a sorc?
  • Lord_Hev
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    First, you take away my Dawnbreakers. Now you stam builds are mimicking my massive magic pool?




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  • Armitas
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    Compared to Rylanas pic from way back

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    Good work ZOS. In a year stamina will be in the thousands.
    Edited by Armitas on September 8, 2016 10:21AM
    Retired.
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  • krathos
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    Just curious, what's the purpose of this build? A gank build with too much hp? Or do you plan to spam dark deal 24/7?
    I mean it could work on a redguard dk with helping hands, adrenalin rush and battle roar, but on a sorc?

    The point of this build was to screw around on the PTS. Also if you're talking about regen you don't need it when your stam skills are dirt cheap and you get constitution passive from heavy armor. that especially goes for sorc and DK.
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  • Wollust
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    And I was thinking more one shot and more damage is barely possible. One visit to the PTS and ZoS proved me wrong. Big time. We may as well just up battle spirit to 75% in the typical bandaid fix manner.
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    That's disgusting.
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  • Rykmaar
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    Welcome to Elder Stamina Online folks. Clearly ZoS has gone off the deep end.

    Will they listen to PTS complaints? Probably not. Will they listen to lockbox complaints? lol no.

    Best part of all of this is that we have to wait for the next major patch for a "balance fix."

    Lost faith in ZoS and this game. It's going the way of STO and others like it.
  • Asgari
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    can you post a pic with real stats .. any stam sorc usin bound armor is usually rip fairly quick as they give up a lot to double slot it and no one uses war horn in pvp ..

    Im all for look at me and my stat posts, but this just makes it seem like you have these stats 24/7 which you dont
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  • _Chaos
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    can you post a pic with real stats .. any stam sorc usin bound armor is usually rip fairly quick as they give up a lot to double slot it and no one uses war horn in pvp ..

    Im all for look at me and my stat posts, but this just makes it seem like you have these stats 24/7 which you dont

    No emp.
    No continuous attack
    No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).

    But yeah lets focus on them having bound armor slotted
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  • Asgari
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    _Chaos wrote: »
    can you post a pic with real stats .. any stam sorc usin bound armor is usually rip fairly quick as they give up a lot to double slot it and no one uses war horn in pvp ..

    Im all for look at me and my stat posts, but this just makes it seem like you have these stats 24/7 which you dont

    No emp.
    No continuous attack
    No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).

    But yeah lets focus on them having bound armor slotted

    Do you walk around with warhorn on 24/7? Im just stating that inflating your stats to make it seem like this will be 24/7 makes it seems like this is something anyone can achieve a 100% uptime on which isnt the case.

    but please by all means be upset at my comment that a sorc doubly slotting bound armor makes them weak compared to a sorc that doesnt use it.
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  • dRudE
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    Been running necropotence on my magsorc for a little while now and it's absolutely viable in pvp. Would love to put this stam setup on my orc Dk and redguard stamplar though!
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  • TooskSG
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    With warhorn, you can get a viable build to like 78k stam in WW, non-emp--imperial phys ofc
  • PeggymoeXD
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    Can't wait for the new stam meta.
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    krathos wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    This is disgusting, nerf the *** out of stam already!

    @Ghost-Shot not that i disagree but you could get fairly equal stats using necropotence instead of draugr. Granted that set is pretty much limited to sorcs & nbs.

    @krathos Yeah you could get pretty similar stats for magic/hp/stam but you wouldn't even come close on spell damage and lets be honest, the actual output would be far less impressive from the magicka character.
  • duuude9192b14_ESO
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    krathos wrote: »
    So for anyone who has checked out the PTS you can see that many of the new sets offer insane stats. For reference here's a screenshot in Cyrodiil.

    No emp.
    No imperial physique.
    No continuous attack
    No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).
    Only self buffs (crit surge & hurricane).


    I did have 10% from warhorn.
    This is with an Orc. Imperial would have even higher stats but I wouldn't run imperial over orc or redguard anyways.
    5x draugr
    5x trainee
    2x that new duneripper monster set

    edit: just realized i didnt even grab a mundus stone on this pts toon yet either. updated pic w/ warrior as mundus

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    For reference my puncture tooltip was over 9k

    These are battle-leveled stats, as it says in the picture. As many experienced players should know, battle-level scaling is extremely superior to actual end-game stats.

    Many players often take advantage of this on live, re-making low level toons and re-equipping top notch gear on them to play on the black water blade campaign.
  • raasdal
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    DKsUnite wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Pretty abyssmal stamina regen tho... just have to focus on the negative here:)

    its heavy armour though so he has regen from const. and also dark deal scales off health so

    Dark Deal scales on level. Not on health. Just fyi.
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  • manny254
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    krathos wrote: »
    So for anyone who has checked out the PTS you can see that many of the new sets offer insane stats. For reference here's a screenshot in Cyrodiil.

    No emp.
    No imperial physique.
    No continuous attack
    No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).
    Only self buffs (crit surge & hurricane).


    I did have 10% from warhorn.
    This is with an Orc. Imperial would have even higher stats but I wouldn't run imperial over orc or redguard anyways.
    5x draugr
    5x trainee
    2x that new duneripper monster set

    edit: just realized i didnt even grab a mundus stone on this pts toon yet either. updated pic w/ warrior as mundus

    lxN4ePI.jpg

    For reference my puncture tooltip was over 9k

    These are battle-leveled stats, as it says in the picture. As many experienced players should know, battle-level scaling is extremely superior to actual end-game stats.

    Many players often take advantage of this on live, re-making low level toons and re-equipping top notch gear on them to play on the black water blade campaign.

    All characters have "battle leveling" as a buff on PTS. Considering he is using template sets he is most likely max level, and not actually getting any increased stats.
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  • Kilandros
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  • Mojomonkeyman
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    _Chaos wrote: »
    can you post a pic with real stats .. any stam sorc usin bound armor is usually rip fairly quick as they give up a lot to double slot it and no one uses war horn in pvp ..

    Im all for look at me and my stat posts, but this just makes it seem like you have these stats 24/7 which you dont

    No emp.
    No continuous attack
    No keep or emp buffs (blue owned nothing at the time).

    But yeah lets focus on them having bound armor slotted

    Do you walk around with warhorn on 24/7? Im just stating that inflating your stats to make it seem like this will be 24/7 makes it seems like this is something anyone can achieve a 100% uptime on which isnt the case.

    but please by all means be upset at my comment that a sorc doubly slotting bound armor makes them weak compared to a sorc that doesnt use it.

    You are a funny little guy. Bound armor is great.
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  • krathos
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    can you post a pic with real stats .. any stam sorc usin bound armor is usually rip fairly quick as they give up a lot to double slot it and no one uses war horn in pvp ..

    Im all for look at me and my stat posts, but this just makes it seem like you have these stats 24/7 which you dont
    This legit isn't a serious build post. Chiiillllll. It's fun to mess around on the PTS and I posted exactly what was used up front so I don't see how I'm deceiving anyone. Also a lot of "look at my stats" posts use way cheesier mechanics to get get their stats up. I could have rolled the char on EP for the bonus PVP buffs, gotten continuous attack, used 2 1pc monster set items, rolled imperial, etc.
    Edited by krathos on September 8, 2016 4:19PM
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  • krathos
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    @duuude9192b14_ESO this is a max level template character on PTS. For some reason they all have this buff but it doesn't actually do anything.
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  • Dreyloch
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    krathos wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Trainee is an awesome looking set. Is Draugr the all max stam set?

    @KenaPKK yep, stam, stam, stam, 3k stam lol

    IDK why, but now I have Monty Python in my head lol. However, all that stam and weapon damage is great, but sub 700 stam regen? yikes, that's gotta take some real managment.

    edit: ok, maybe not so much. And yeah, fun to throw stuff together on PTS=)
    Edited by Dreyloch on September 8, 2016 4:41PM
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  • Blobsky
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    600 stam reg tho
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  • Sallington
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    600 stam reg tho

    This was my first thought too.

    If this build went against a high regen build, they'd dodge roll and cc you until you were out of stam, and then give you wet willies until you died.
    Edited by Sallington on September 8, 2016 5:00PM
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  • krathos
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    600 stam reg tho

    @Blobsky yeahhh like i said it's not a serious build... however, when your main attack costs like 1k stam and has a 50% chance to proc a 7-8k extra aoe damage + snare on a 4s cooldown you don't exactly need a lot of stam. Heavy armor also offers a nice chunk via constitution, extra from heavy attacks, and dark deal gives back a ton too which you can cast as often as you want with 20k+ magicka lol. I run similar regen on my stam dk on live and it's fine.
    Edited by krathos on September 8, 2016 5:22PM
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