Dragonstar Arena Leaderboards Must be Wiped

Shnawkilla

exploiters don't care because they are not banned , one of biggest issue in this game

elvenmad

I completely agree with Nifty2g this is disgusting, end game content should be learned both as a individual and as a team, thats how it was designed to be done, and end game gear should be earned NOT obtained using what is quite obviously an exploit.

Things like these bassically make all serious progression and end game competition nul and void, this needs addressing ASAP not only in this content but ALL end game vet mode etc content, otherwise what is the point of having this 'end game' content if it can be quite easily worked around and still give the same rewards the same results.

Alcast

1. Ban that scum
2. Fix that bug
3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

Cîanai

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

Ep1kMalware

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have no problem with someone scaling it down and still getting CP160 gear when it doesn't affect leaderboards but when this crap affect leaderboards it needs to be fixed at once.

So you feel like it is okay to scale down end game content to get end game gear at a lower level without any effort?
They are both as bad as each other

wish there was a disagree button. You've never done normal mode then. scaling down normal anhthing for a gear farm is entirely unobtrusive. As for the situation OP mentioned, it affects veteran only achievements like titles/master weapons/leaderboards and needs a quick fix.

Nifty2g

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have no problem with someone scaling it down and still getting CP160 gear when it doesn't affect leaderboards but when this crap affect leaderboards it needs to be fixed at once.

So you feel like it is okay to scale down end game content to get end game gear at a lower level without any effort?
They are both as bad as each other

wish there was a disagree button. You've never done normal mode then. scaling down normal anhthing for a gear farm is entirely unobtrusive. As for the situation OP mentioned, it affects veteran only achievements like titles/master weapons/leaderboards and needs a quick fix.

Then you missed the point, it doesn't matter if it is unobtrusive. You yourself as a player is skipping a progression curve in bettering yourself instead of skipping out on mechanics for easy gear trying to go straight into the hardmodes/veteran modes and wondering why a group does not want to run with you when you fail the mechanics and keep dying. Yes it is meant to be harsh because you put your foot into progressive trials, and guess what they are all scaled now, so they are all progressive. And weeklies now matter and are difficult to do.

So do you really think it is worth it for ZOS to enable this behavior?

Alcast

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

Nifty2g

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

@Alcast Now that beyond got their hardmode I think they might be rock solid, so watch out :P
We're not too far off, 7 deaths on our silly run. But *** me I am sick of the first boss, overlaying mechanics its dumb

Excelsiore

Right @Nifty2g
Next week, sommerholidays are over

Excelsiore

Gratz to no death.
Really nice.

Wifeaggro13

thats sucks.

Cously

What confuses me is that it should be above CP 10 at least? I mean, does veteran content scales to under 50 levels? Definately a bug. Yes, we need a leaderboard wipe. Whilst I believe most players have no idea this is going on, a wipe is only fair to those who went at max level.

Alcast

Nifty2g wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

@Alcast Now that beyond got their hardmode I think they might be rock solid, so watch out :P
We're not too far off, 7 deaths on our silly run. But *** me I am sick of the first boss, overlaying mechanics its dumb

ye first boss is the biggest pain in the ass, we have a good tactic now so deaths are rare there, once you are past 1st boss it is kinda "save" till trash before last boss in that long room.

To get a higher score i think you need quite a bit vitality left and that with Hardmode is gonna be tricky. But ye I think beyond did it on 2nd try so we better hurry up, we just started HM so lets see where this goes lol.

Cîanai

Alcast wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

@Alcast Now that beyond got their hardmode I think they might be rock solid, so watch out :P
We're not too far off, 7 deaths on our silly run. But *** me I am sick of the first boss, overlaying mechanics its dumb

ye first boss is the biggest pain in the ass, we have a good tactic now so deaths are rare there, once you are past 1st boss it is kinda "save" till trash before last boss in that long room.

To get a higher score i think you need quite a bit vitality left and that with Hardmode is gonna be tricky. But ye I think beyond did it on 2nd try so we better hurry up, we just started HM so lets see where this goes lol.

And we didn't got additional points for HM ^^

Excelsiore

1st boss is easyier not to die with 6-8man.
Just rdm lol ***.^^

juhasman

andy_s wrote: »

juhasman wrote: »

Well sad thing is that it's not even a cheating. If someone can downscale dungeons, trials and get achievements it's obvious he can do the same with vDSA. Leaderboards for vDSA should be only for cp160 runs same like for vet trials atm.

It's not just scaling to lower cp level, it's scaling a veteran dungeon/trial to normal level, that shouldn't be possible at all. Some people do vet dungeons on level 10 and get all the achievements. I don't care about them, but when they come and do it with vDSA and get the score, then it's a problem and an intentional cheating.

I agree but in other hand cant blame people for this like it would be only their fault. Theoreticly each person who've done it downscaled can say ,,we helped our friend to get achievement" and I am ok with that as long as it not affect leaderboards. Let's be honest it's developer who screwed here in the 1st place. And doing veteran mode scaled to levels not champion points is just a joke.

Nifty2g

juhasman wrote: »

andy_s wrote: »

juhasman wrote: »

Well sad thing is that it's not even a cheating. If someone can downscale dungeons, trials and get achievements it's obvious he can do the same with vDSA. Leaderboards for vDSA should be only for cp160 runs same like for vet trials atm.

It's not just scaling to lower cp level, it's scaling a veteran dungeon/trial to normal level, that shouldn't be possible at all. Some people do vet dungeons on level 10 and get all the achievements. I don't care about them, but when they come and do it with vDSA and get the score, then it's a problem and an intentional cheating.

I agree but in other hand cant blame people for this like it would be only their fault. Theoreticly each person who've done it downscaled can say ,,we helped our friend to get achievement" and I am ok with that as long as it not affect leaderboards. Let's be honest it's developer who screwed here in the 1st place. And doing veteran mode scaled to levels not champion points is just a joke.

Allow me to reiterate

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In plain English: if it looks or feels like cheating, then try it out at your own risk. Or better yet, don’t try it at all.
In short: don’t do it. If we catch you exploiting and/or cheating, even once, it is grounds for disciplinary action up to and including a permanent ban of your game account. If in doubt about whether or not certain actions or activity are considered exploiting, you are welcome to ask us here on the forums.

Lord_Eomer

This thread is discouraging low level players

LadyNalcarya

I wonder if this exploit can be used in other trials...

Woeler

Seeing the names on the boards, I'm not surprised they exploited.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

I have no problem with someone scaling it down and still getting CP160 gear when it doesn't affect leaderboards but when this crap affect leaderboards it needs to be fixed at once.

So you feel like it is okay to scale down end game content to get end game gear at a lower level without any effort?
They are both as bad as each other

One effect competition the other doesn't.When something effects competition in have a problem with it.Something like scaling down Sanctum to get purple cp160 faster I don't care about.It doesn't affect competition on allow players to get gear faster and be ready for more difficult content.

It should be a progression, nothing should be handed to you, that's just silly, you don't learn anything

I can agree you should earn it.I just don't see it as big of a deal as some people unless it affect leaderboard than it ruins good sportsmanship.

Being in an end game guild, you will start to notice that you want players with experience rather than the gear, because even if they have the gear they still won't know that much and will have no progression at all and end up getting no where basically.
So that is why scaled gear is a horribly disgusting idea.

@Nifty2g for the win. Also, this does affect boards indirectly. If you are able to get gear by cheating, lets call it what it is, that helps you push scores, then it's part of the same problem.

laksikus

elvenmad wrote: »

I completely agree with Nifty2g this is disgusting, end game content should be learned both as a individual and as a team, thats how it was designed to be done, and end game gear should be earned NOT obtained using what is quite obviously an exploit.

Things like these bassically make all serious progression and end game competition nul and void, this needs addressing ASAP not only in this content but ALL end game vet mode etc content, otherwise what is the point of having this 'end game' content if it can be quite easily worked around and still give the same rewards the same results.

I did every endgame content except vet mol.
And I got vo neck after 300+ runs, and I had to buy it, so no neck drop for myself.
How exactly would another 300 runs teach me anything?
Rng is just stupid the way it is.

I agree that its *** of scoreboards are involved, but every shortcut to get desired gear is ok cos Rng is ***

Buffler

Zos wont do anything until the method of how its done is widespread. You guys should know that after all the cheating ***** were exploiting the banker and writs. Nothing happened until it was made public

LadyNalcarya

laksikus wrote: »

elvenmad wrote: »

I completely agree with Nifty2g this is disgusting, end game content should be learned both as a individual and as a team, thats how it was designed to be done, and end game gear should be earned NOT obtained using what is quite obviously an exploit.

Things like these bassically make all serious progression and end game competition nul and void, this needs addressing ASAP not only in this content but ALL end game vet mode etc content, otherwise what is the point of having this 'end game' content if it can be quite easily worked around and still give the same rewards the same results.

I did every endgame content except vet mol.
And I got vo neck after 300+ runs, and I had to buy it, so no neck drop for myself.
How exactly would another 300 runs teach me anything?
Rng is just stupid the way it is.

I agree that its *** of scoreboards are involved, but every shortcut to get desired gear is ok cos Rng is ***

Well, now the situation is better since we can trade BoP gear
It took me months to get a full set of spell power cure, but when we needed this set for a teammate, we were able to get 4 pieces in one evening.

code65536

laksikus wrote: »

And I got vo neck after 300+ runs, and I had to buy it, so no neck drop for myself.

That's because you're running normal-mode trials. The chance of getting a VO jewelry piece in normal is something like 3%. Lower if you're looking specifically for a neck.

Do vSO HM, and you have a 1-in-3 chance at a VO jewelry piece every run. I'm sitting on four complete sets of VO jewelry (and have given away a number of pieces now that trading is available) because I farmed vSO, not nSO.

And this is a good system. It means that people who run normal can get the same loot as people who run vet, but people who run vet are rewarded with much better drops chances and less RNG to fuss with.

Alcast

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

@Alcast Now that beyond got their hardmode I think they might be rock solid, so watch out :P
We're not too far off, 7 deaths on our silly run. But *** me I am sick of the first boss, overlaying mechanics its dumb

ye first boss is the biggest pain in the ass, we have a good tactic now so deaths are rare there, once you are past 1st boss it is kinda "save" till trash before last boss in that long room.

To get a higher score i think you need quite a bit vitality left and that with Hardmode is gonna be tricky. But ye I think beyond did it on 2nd try so we better hurry up, we just started HM so lets see where this goes lol.

And we didn't got additional points for HM ^^

lol no points? wtf xD. Like with our first speedrun, no achievment whatsoever. Did they say they will fix it soon?

Refuse2GrowUp

Lol, just something else ZOS will turn a blind eye to. No one will be punished because banning players means they wont be around to spend money in the crown store. Such a shame ZOS...grow a backbone damn it.

LadyNalcarya

And still no official response...

Cîanai

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

3. Reset dsa leaderboard. But please only dsa dont wanna do another nodeath vmol omfg to get good vmol score
@Seiffer

I would say do HM, if there was no score bug

Btw gz for your achievement

We going for HM now but our score is pretty safe so dont wanna do it again >.>

@Alcast Now that beyond got their hardmode I think they might be rock solid, so watch out :P
We're not too far off, 7 deaths on our silly run. But *** me I am sick of the first boss, overlaying mechanics its dumb

ye first boss is the biggest pain in the ass, we have a good tactic now so deaths are rare there, once you are past 1st boss it is kinda "save" till trash before last boss in that long room.

To get a higher score i think you need quite a bit vitality left and that with Hardmode is gonna be tricky. But ye I think beyond did it on 2nd try so we better hurry up, we just started HM so lets see where this goes lol.

And we didn't got additional points for HM ^^

lol no points? wtf xD. Like with our first speedrun, no achievment whatsoever. Did they say they will fix it soon?

They said that they will take a look on it ^^

Nifty2g

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Is there any word on this