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Vurian97 · January 2017

After spending a few days just simply studying and learning the thought process of the Aldmeri Dominion I have figured out why the faction loses. They have the numbers but they don't have the organization. They lack the leadership. Those who could lead.. instead bash their own faction. @Adenoma spent a solid 15minutes tonight just telling AD that they sucked and that his guild would flip the map alone. Little to be known... they failed all their attempts.

vamp_emily · January 2017

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting. I thought Lodg was going to make some big move?

Mjollo · January 2017

That could be said for any faction in any campaign though. it's the same instance for bwb EP.
also @Vurian97 your sig is a bit long. we don't need to see a paragraph every time you post.

Vurian97 · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting. I thought Lodg was going to make some big move?

The smallest of things can have the greatest of effects. The Daggerfall Covenant is not in first place and has failed at attempting at the Aldmeri Dominion's scrolls during night/morning-caps. Balance has been restored to the campaign so far, as everyone is equal in score still in the first 2 days, compared to last week, where DC was way ahead by this point already.

Defialed wrote: »

That could be said for any faction in any campaign though. it's the same instance for bwb EP.
also @Vurian97 your sig is a bit long. we don't need to see a paragraph every time you post.

Updated my signature to accommodate. I hope it is better now, @Defialed.

vamp_emily · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

Little to be known... they failed all their attempts.

Funny the other day you had a chance to dethrone DC Emp, and crown an AD Emp ( making them proud ) but there was only one problem

I had the day off work. You failed. Pugz would have dehtroned, crowned, and then took scrolls.

You should take some time and learn from @Adenoma. His guild is much better than Lodg.

Vurian97 · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

Little to be known... they failed all their attempts.

Funny the other day you had a chance to dethrone DC Emp, and crown an AD Emp ( making them proud ) but there was only one problem I had the day off work. You failed. Pugz would have dehtroned, crowned, and then took scrolls.

You should take some time and learn from @Adenoma. His guild is much better than Lodg.

His guild also has been actively playing with each other for longer than LoDG. They should be doing better than us. LoDG's core has only been together for around 2 months now.

Valen_Byte · January 2017

@Vurian97

What you dont understand is that the guilds of BWB dont always push. Dont always care. When one of the factions in bwb decide to push and get serious, things happen. We arent just here for the week. We arent just lvling a toon through on the way to vet. The core of bwb players are just here to have fun.

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.

Your test sample is much too small to have an intelligent opinion of what goes on in BwB.

DeadlyRecluse · January 2017

Everybody knows Adenomas guild is just a wannabe copy of my guild.

Just_call_me_Cola · January 2017

I thought his guild was just a myth

Vyle_Byte · January 2017

Im not sure you should be making assumptions after only a couple days of being in a server. I wouldnt go into a server and judge an alliance after just a day or 2, esp in a low level campaign. It fluctuates greatly, many new players come in everyday, new guilds/groups start up all the time and then fizzle out. And, not all guilds run 24/7 either. Bwb is a tad more casual than the other servers in some regards, which seeing as youve played here before, you should know.

Sometimes it can get pretty serious and when that happens shiz gets done, it can be sloppy sure, but thats what you get with low level and the fluctuation of new/old players in and out every day. You teach a batch one day, the next those guys arent on and ya get more that dunno what they are doing. Such is the life of the bwb player.

Again, if you really want to help the server, EP is in much greater need than AD. By far, just ask poor @Lumsdenml, who can tell you the woes of his faction and how badly they need people and organization.

Also, side note, we dont always push far up the map... it literally kills the server. It has happened many times in the past and we have an obligation not to push so hard, esp if we have pop. Im not talkin about dethrones and such Im talking about letting people just play and not "owning" the map all the time, there will be no one left to fight if we do that on a consistent bases, just ask anyone here in this thread.

TipsyDrow · January 2017

Just_call_me_Cola wrote: »

I thought his guild was just a myth

*waves hand* that is not the adenoma you seek.

vamp_emily · January 2017

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

What you dont understand is that the guilds of BWB dont always push. Dont always care. When one of the factions in bwb decide to push and get serious, things happen. We arent just here for the week. We arent just lvling a toon through on the way to vet. The core of bwb players are just here to have fun.

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.

Your test sample is much too small to have an intelligent opinion of what goes on in BwB.

Not me

I am there to kill everyone and take over Cyro

This is what I don't understand. What is so bad about FDing? I see people talk bad about it but everyone does it.

Vurian97 · January 2017

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.
.

1. We were fighting against Janet's group, it was 20 AD pushing against around 15 DC, hardly PvDooring, of course for someone who wants to make the public believe I'm ***, you will call it PvDooring to make you favorable.

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

3. You do nothing to benefit your faction other than ***-talk people in zone chat. I've watched it for a week now and I've grasped the issues already. It doesn't take long to understand the issues of a faction, however, you as an imbecile would not realize that.

Overall, I have found that there are guilds that belittle the new players in the Aldmeri Dominion instead of helping them. That is the flaw of the faction. I still find it funny that you came into zone chat and wanted to trash-talk me for leading groups on Aldmeri Dominion though. That was hilarious, especially since you wanted to play the victim card at the end of it all.

Vurian97 · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

What you dont understand is that the guilds of BWB dont always push. Dont always care. When one of the factions in bwb decide to push and get serious, things happen. We arent just here for the week. We arent just lvling a toon through on the way to vet. The core of bwb players are just here to have fun.

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.

Your test sample is much too small to have an intelligent opinion of what goes on in BwB.

Not me I am there to kill everyone and take over Cyro

This is what I don't understand. What is so bad about FDing? I see people talk bad about it but everyone does it.

It's propaganda, Emily. They want people to believe another group is bad for doing it but their group knows what they're doing. It's the main issue of ESO PvP. Everyone wants to call each other foul but they all do the same thing. People cause drama to try to get other groups to quit or to get them to go somewhere else if they view them as a threat. It's a cycle.

TipsyDrow · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

What you dont understand is that the guilds of BWB dont always push. Dont always care. When one of the factions in bwb decide to push and get serious, things happen. We arent just here for the week. We arent just lvling a toon through on the way to vet. The core of bwb players are just here to have fun.

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.

Your test sample is much too small to have an intelligent opinion of what goes on in BwB.

Not me I am there to kill everyone and take over Cyro

This is what I don't understand. What is so bad about FDing? I see people talk bad about it but everyone does it.

BWB has a very very low population during non prime time hours. You have to be careful how much of the map anyone faction runs because it will and does cause people to log in, see a one color map and simply log right back out. Do things like storm a keep (brindle for instance) right before a score eval, take it get the points, but then don't bother with it after the eval. That way the few players on the other faction can go take it back and the map then doesn't seem overly one sided. The goal I think many in BWB are trying to achieve more then any other is for as healthy a pvp environment as you can achieve within the limits of the game yet still keep it very competitive, fiercely competitive I'd say, because really.....who doesn't enjoy spamming talons and whip on Adenoma and screaming out in their computer room *Whos your momma...WHO'S YOUR M'FIN MOMMA!!!!!* wait....never mind that last part.

vamp_emily · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

WOW!! Did i read that correctly? Did he say 50 to 60 DC on during the morning on DC?

I was there. We let them have the scrolls. Our main goal was to defend that Ales keep till everyone logged in. I was constantly saying "We can do this" 2 more hours and people will start to log in. Lodg failed big time. It was 2 bars to our 1 bar all day long until 5:30 pm.

TipsyDrow · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.
.

1. We were fighting against Janet's group, it was 20 AD pushing against around 15 DC, hardly PvDooring, of course for someone who wants to make the public believe I'm ***, you will call it PvDooring to make you favorable.

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

3. You do nothing to benefit your faction other than ***-talk people in zone chat. I've watched it for a week now and I've grasped the issues already. It doesn't take long to understand the issues of a faction, however, you as an imbecile would not realize that.

Overall, I have found that there are guilds that belittle the new players in the Aldmeri Dominion instead of helping them. That is the flaw of the faction. I still find it funny that you came into zone chat and wanted to trash-talk me for leading groups on Aldmeri Dominion though. That was hilarious, especially since you wanted to play the victim card at the end of it all.

Something smells rotten here....oh yea, pretty much your entire post. As much as I dearly, and enthusiastically enjoy handing whips and chains to AD enmasse ,forcing them to kneel, worship and call me Mistress Pigtails you're description of their guilds is a little off. I used to be AD and If I remember correctly Byte ran by Vyle and Valen did nothing but take brand new players form groups and teach them how to play. Adenoma, Recluse and those known affectionately in DC as *The Dresses* also did a whole lot of teaching and helping new people. For whatever reason you have incurred the wrath of guilds in both AD and DC, normally when things of this nature happen, it isn't the faction guilds that are the issue.

Vurian97 · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

WOW!! Did i read that correctly? Did he say 50 to 60 DC on during the morning on DC?

I was there. We let them have the scrolls. Our main goal was to defend that Ales keep till everyone logged in. I was constantly saying "We can do this" 2 more hours and people will start to log in. Lodg failed big time. It was 2 bars to our 1 bar all day long until 5:30 pm.

We didn't even begin pushing at Aleswell until around 4pm central, even then, LoDG isn't the entire AD faction. It may have been 2 bars inside Cyrodiil but they didn't all come to Aleswell to attack with us, most were defending all the other stuff since we owned all of DC's stuff besides Aleswell.

Vurian97 · January 2017

TipsyDrow wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.
.

1. We were fighting against Janet's group, it was 20 AD pushing against around 15 DC, hardly PvDooring, of course for someone who wants to make the public believe I'm ***, you will call it PvDooring to make you favorable.

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

3. You do nothing to benefit your faction other than ***-talk people in zone chat. I've watched it for a week now and I've grasped the issues already. It doesn't take long to understand the issues of a faction, however, you as an imbecile would not realize that.

Overall, I have found that there are guilds that belittle the new players in the Aldmeri Dominion instead of helping them. That is the flaw of the faction. I still find it funny that you came into zone chat and wanted to trash-talk me for leading groups on Aldmeri Dominion though. That was hilarious, especially since you wanted to play the victim card at the end of it all.

Something smells rotten here....oh yea, pretty much your entire post. As much as I dearly, and enthusiastically enjoy handing whips and chains to AD enmasse ,forcing them to kneel, worship and call me Mistress Pigtails you're description of their guilds is a little off. I used to be AD and If I remember correctly Byte ran by Vyle and Valen did nothing but take brand new players form groups and teach them how to play. Adenoma, Recluse and those known affectionately in DC as *The Dresses* also did a whole lot of teaching and helping new people. For whatever reason you have incurred the wrath of guilds in both AD and DC, normally when things of this nature happen, it isn't the faction guilds that are the issue.

I havn't 'incurred the wrath of guilds', Adenoma was bashing people in zone-chat. Wasn't even bashing me, he was bashing HIS faction. To make it even worse, Vyle had made some remarks as well. They teach people? Great. No purpose in belittling people though. They are new players and they need to be given room to learn.

Mjollo · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

Updated my signature to accommodate. I hope it is better now, @Defialed.

Gracias.

DeadlyRecluse · January 2017

TipsyDrow wrote: »

...I used to be AD and If I remember correctly Byte ran by Vyle and Valen did nothing but take brand new players form groups and teach them how to play. Adenoma, Recluse and those known affectionately in DC as *The Dresses*....

Cola and I saw your attire tonight.....

But you are correct. I would argue that Vyle and Valen have done more teaching of pugs than almost anyone left in BWB. And half our guild were raw players we picked up because they said something in zone about wanting guidance/help etc. Hell, for a while I was spending over 100k gold a week gearing up pugs or new guildies. We may be shitheels but we are at least philanthropic about it.

I, for one, have no problem giving Vurian *some* credit. At the moment, there isn't really a pug wrangler on AD most hours, and he is picking people up and setting objectives. However, I suspect that there isn't a regular pug wrangler at the moment on DC, and I'm 99 percent sure there isn't on EP. And I think we all remember what happened last time AD had the only real pug group rolling around the map...

Also 7 more pages guys.

Vyle_Byte · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

To make it even worse, Vyle had made some remarks as well. They teach people? Great. No purpose in belittling people though. They are new players and they need to be given room to learn.

Whoa Whoa you hold your horses right there buddy boy. I am 100% against bashing my own faction, I am the first to call out such things, I literally despise it so idk what you think you saw coming from me, esp cause the only time I've been on was for 20 min last night in the past few days.. and tonight I was on for a full 5 minutes, joked with Sharky, thats it. I don't belittle people in chat, not in guild not in zone, no where, I am the cheerleader, I cheer AD I tell them they are awesome and how I'm proud of them when they do things. So you'd better be gettin your facts straight before you accuse me of doing such bs.

Valen_Byte · January 2017

If people keep telling you that you have a tail, you should take a look cause you probably do.

Valen_Byte · January 2017

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

What you dont understand is that the guilds of BWB dont always push. Dont always care. When one of the factions in bwb decide to push and get serious, things happen. We arent just here for the week. We arent just lvling a toon through on the way to vet. The core of bwb players are just here to have fun.

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.

Your test sample is much too small to have an intelligent opinion of what goes on in BwB.

Not me I am there to kill everyone and take over Cyro

This is what I don't understand. What is so bad about FDing? I see people talk bad about it but everyone does it.

What I mean by "dont always care" is sometimes I just want to stand on the wall of Roe and wait for a defence. Sometimes I dont want to run group. Sometimes I have a hard day at work and dont even come into cyro. Just depends. Its not always balls to the walls push push push. Ya know?

What I mean by "PvDooring" is running the map and taking all the keeps while they are undefended. Not front dooring necessarily.

Vyle_Byte · January 2017

ugh double commenttttttt! lol

Stridig · January 2017

I thoroughly enjoyed the whole "who's your mother ******* mama" thing. Now we're talking.

Vurian97 · January 2017

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

TipsyDrow wrote: »

I, for one, have no problem giving Vurian *some* credit. At the moment, there isn't really a pug wrangler on AD most hours, and he is picking people up and setting objectives. However, I suspect that there isn't a regular pug wrangler at the moment on DC, and I'm 99 percent sure there isn't on EP. And I think we all remember what happened last time AD had the only real pug group rolling around the map...

Janet From Finance is the pug wrangler for DC.

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

To make it even worse, Vyle had made some remarks as well. They teach people? Great. No purpose in belittling people though. They are new players and they need to be given room to learn.

Whoa Whoa you hold your horses right there buddy boy. I am 100% against bashing my own faction, I am the first to call out such things, I literally despise it so idk what you think you saw coming from me, esp cause the only time I've been on was for 20 min last night in the past few days.. and tonight I was on for a full 5 minutes, joked with Sharky, thats it. I don't belittle people in chat, not in guild not in zone, no where, I am the cheerleader, I cheer AD I tell them they are awesome and how I'm proud of them when they do things. So you'd better be gettin your facts straight before you accuse me of doing such bs.

It may have been the joking with Sharky that I saw. Not 100% certain, I was fighting during the convo and so I didn't pay to much attention, if it was joking, great, however, when I was reading it, it seemed like you were hassling someone.

Adenoma · January 2017

I like the DC PvDoor and the campaign right now. Needs more EP though.

To be 100% fair, the things people said in zone today were a special brand of stupid.

Vyle_Byte · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

It may have been the joking with Sharky that I saw. Not 100% certain, I was fighting during the convo and so I didn't pay to much attention, if it was joking, great, however, when I was reading it, it seemed like you were hassling someone.

LOL so you didnt read what was actually being said and then you have the gall to accuse me of hassling and belittling? Dude, come on. Seriously, just no. I laughed at something he said and then joked about him "stopping swimming" bc hes... a ... shark when he joked about offing himself... it was funny. Not derogatory. So not cool I'm sincerely offended at the thought that anyone would think that about me when I've done nothing but give my all for my faction. I LOVE MY FACTION. Even when they are being silly and doing silly things. You know nothing of me or my fervor for my faction.

Stridig · January 2017

Vurian97 wrote: »

TipsyDrow wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Vurian97

Like the other day when you where trying to run the whole map by PVDooring in the middle of the day, I had the day off but chose not to help you. I watched with glee as you and your guild failed on Aleswell as I knew you would because you just dont understand what you have gotten yourself in to.
.

1. We were fighting against Janet's group, it was 20 AD pushing against around 15 DC, hardly PvDooring, of course for someone who wants to make the public believe I'm ***, you will call it PvDooring to make you favorable.

2. By the time we reached Aleswell, there was roughly 50-60 DC stacked inside Aleswell alone with my group only having 20. Naturally, we weren't going to win.

3. You do nothing to benefit your faction other than ***-talk people in zone chat. I've watched it for a week now and I've grasped the issues already. It doesn't take long to understand the issues of a faction, however, you as an imbecile would not realize that.

Overall, I have found that there are guilds that belittle the new players in the Aldmeri Dominion instead of helping them. That is the flaw of the faction. I still find it funny that you came into zone chat and wanted to trash-talk me for leading groups on Aldmeri Dominion though. That was hilarious, especially since you wanted to play the victim card at the end of it all.

Something smells rotten here....oh yea, pretty much your entire post. As much as I dearly, and enthusiastically enjoy handing whips and chains to AD enmasse ,forcing them to kneel, worship and call me Mistress Pigtails you're description of their guilds is a little off. I used to be AD and If I remember correctly Byte ran by Vyle and Valen did nothing but take brand new players form groups and teach them how to play. Adenoma, Recluse and those known affectionately in DC as *The Dresses* also did a whole lot of teaching and helping new people. For whatever reason you have incurred the wrath of guilds in both AD and DC, normally when things of this nature happen, it isn't the faction guilds that are the issue.

I havn't 'incurred the wrath of guilds', Adenoma was bashing people in zone-chat. Wasn't even bashing me, he was bashing HIS faction. To make it even worse, Vyle had made some remarks as well. They teach people? Great. No purpose in belittling people though. They are new players and they need to be given room to learn.

I hate reverberating bash. Makes me dizzy every time. When will he do something besides bash people?