When we change our Race, let us pick any race outside our faction including Imperials... PLEASE ZOS

Smasherx74

I know the Imperial DLC is what gives you access to all races and imperial Race I believe, but why not let players change to ANY race if they're paying MORE than the actual DLC costs to change their race. I tried in the PTS when it first went up and noticed this issue so I don't know if it was chanegd.

Personally, I wont change any of my races if I can't switch to say Khajiit on my nord stamplar. I'm also not going to pay for the imperial DLC just to change my race to the race I want AFTER paying 3000 or so crowns just to change the race to begin with. Please tell me everyone agrees on this issue, there is no reason to force players to buy the DLC ontop of their race change just to pick the race they actually want to change to.

Edit: People saying "I paid for all races and I don't want you having it for free", It's not free the race change costs MORE than the dlc does.

Trublz

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

AfkNinja

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

NewBlacksmurf

I believeOne Tamriel needs a lot more detailed explanation in accordance with the parlor crown options.

Having paid for the option to pick any race regardless of faction should stay.

I think that the issue is two parts, one...it's unclear but ...part two, the price and the absence of a faction change are of concern.

Seems yet another half-azz done job on ZOS' part

DPShiro

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

AfkNinja wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

Runs

DPShiro wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

AfkNinja wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

I don't care one way or the other... But...

It's wouldn't be "freely given out" when people pay for the race change.

Holycannoli

Runs wrote: »

It's wouldn't be "freely given out" when people pay for the race change.

They're paying for the change, not for imperial race or any race any faction.

idk

Just unlock the package so you can play any race in any alliance and you can. Seriously doubt Zos would move around that.

Recremen

They have the thing you want for sale, buy the thing you want. It's no more complex than that.

Daemons_Bane

They already told us that it would not be so.. And it would be a bad signal to send to the players who actually paid for having the option of all races.. should we get free race changes then.?

Reykice

No chance really as people payed for it and it exists as a separate pack. The only way to do it is to refund everyone for it first and you can guess the chance of that.

Keep_Door

On one hand yes your paying for the race change but on the other hand other people including me have bought the any race any alliance pack and will be buying a race change also...

So it just seems unfair if they allowed you to bypass buying the any race any alliance pack.

Maybe if you did not have the any race any alliance it could just cost alittle more to change your race outside of your alliance. But im sure people would flip a lid at that idea, but it does seems like a fair way to handle this.

Troneon

Give it to everyone, I got the Imperial Edition at launch and don't care if it is given away or not...

Add it to race change as an unlock?

I agree with OP should be able to choose any race with race change.

Smasherx74

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

DPShiro

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

So in that case for us who bought the pack earlier, we will be reimbursed the crowns then when buying a race change?
Otherwise we have paid for something that you want for free.

Acrolas

Imperial Edition Upgrade gives you the Imperial Race. 2100 Crowns.
Adventurer Pack (or an old Explorer's Pack code) gives you Any Race, Any Alliance. 1900 Crowns.
Combined, they're 4000 total. You get more features for that 4,000 but none of the features are à la carte.

The more you know duh duh duh duhhhh...

Taleof2Cities

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I believeOne Tamriel needs a lot more detailed explanation in accordance with the parlor crown options.

Having paid for the option to pick any race regardless of faction should stay.

I think that the issue is two parts, one...it's unclear but ...part two, the price and the absence of a faction change are of concern.

Seems yet another half-azz done job on ZOS' part

You're already claiming a "half-azz" job by ZOS ... when the OneTamriel details have yet to be announced and are still months away?

Really could use my LOL button right about now ...

Shadesofkin

Recremen wrote: »

They have the thing you want for sale, buy the thing you want. It's no more complex than that.

This right here ^^^^

Myerscod

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

They should reduce the cost of tokens SIGNIFICANTLY instead. Hell, it costs half as much to buy an additional character slot. Just reroll a character and give him 9 pieces of training gear and level up in 12 hours tops

Smasherx74

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

DPShiro wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

So in that case for us who bought the pack earlier, we will be reimbursed the crowns then when buying a race change?
Otherwise we have paid for something that you want for free.

So in that case then for us who didn't buy the Imperial DLC specifically and we want to change our race to Khajiit from Nord, we have to stack another 1000-2000 crowns on top of that 3000 crown purchase to get the race change. Makes sense, I'm not paying for either in that case.

rhapsodious

Smasherx74 wrote: »

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

Not how it works, though. The way you're talking, the Any Race, Any Alliance upgrade would be given freely - that is, at no additional cost - to anyone who purchases a race change. You're paying 3000 crowns to change to a race within your alliance.
The Imperial Edition upgrade allows you to race change to Imperial, if you purchase a Race Change Token. The ARAA upgrade allows you to change race to any race, if you purchase a Race Change Token. The benefit is on the upgrade(s) and not the token.

So in that case then for us who didn't buy the Imperial DLC specifically and we want to change our race to Khajiit from Nord, we have to stack another 1000-2000 crowns on top of that 3000 crown purchase to get the race change. Makes sense, I'm not paying for either in that case.

Yup. If you want to be any race, you gotta pony up.

MasterSpatula

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

I love people who belittle others for being wrong when they are demonstrably wrong.

If someone who bought "Any Race, Any Alliance" pays the same amount to change race as someone who didn't buy "Any Race, Any Alliance" and both players are allowed to change to any race, then yes, the latter player is absolutely getting something the former payed for for free. It makes not even the slightest difference how expensive the race change is. Not even remotely.

I really don't care all that much, since there is absolutely no way I would ever use race change, but the smugness of someone incorrect looking down on people who are correct just stuck in my craw.

AGrz5585

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

DPShiro wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

13 of you don't understand the definition of free I'm guessing.

You're paying more than the DLC costs to race change.

So in that case for us who bought the pack earlier, we will be reimbursed the crowns then when buying a race change?
Otherwise we have paid for something that you want for free.

So in that case then for us who didn't buy the Imperial DLC specifically and we want to change our race to Khajiit from Nord, we have to stack another 1000-2000 crowns on top of that 3000 crown purchase to get the race change. Makes sense, I'm not paying for either in that case.

Stop saying Imperial DLC, that's not what it is.

To change your Nord to khajiit, it will be 1900 crowns for the any race, any alliance pack
To change your Nord to imperial, then you need to upgrade your account with the "DIGITAL IMPERIAL EDITION"

Go ahead and buy the IC DLC and be out 3k crowns so I can laugh at you

SolarCat02

I bought the Imperial Edition and the Any Race, Any Alliance so that I could start any new character I wanted in any alliance I wanted.

If you want to pay 3k Crowns per race change to switch your character to a race that doesn't belong in that alliance, what do I care? It would cost you about $90 to have the characters I got for $30. I still got the better deal.

But ZOS won't do it anyway, because they don't want to miss out on that $30 on top of the rest. That's why they won't sell alliance changes, either, because then how would they sell the Explorer's Pack?

dodgehopper_ESO

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

I agree. Pay for that expansion if you want that feature. I have no problem with them offering a package containing Explorer pack or other such with it though.

DaveMoeDee

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

Isn't free. OP made that clear.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

On a semi related note, what the hell is up with the adventurer pack info on the web page?

Play in the Alliance of your choice, no matter the race!

Ok i am with you so far... Next?

Find buried treasure, and more!

Umm what? There is no burried treasure in that pack, or more? All it does is as it says, play in the alliance of your choice no matter the race. Nothing else.

Did someone in marketing say, well crap that is only one sentence. No one will pay 1900 crowns for one sentence. Put some other stupid crap there!

DurzoBlint13

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I know the Imperial DLC is what gives you access to all races and imperial Race I believe, but why not let players change to ANY race if they're paying MORE than the actual DLC costs to change their race. I tried in the PTS when it first went up and noticed this issue so I don't know if it was chanegd.

Personally, I wont change any of my races if I can't switch to say Khajiit on my nord stamplar. I'm also not going to pay for the imperial DLC just to change my race to the race I want AFTER paying 3000 or so crowns just to change the race to begin with. Please tell me everyone agrees on this issue, there is no reason to force players to buy the DLC ontop of their race change just to pick the race they actually want to change to.

"any race, any alliance" was free as long as you preordered on console. The Imperial race is only available with the "Imperial Edition". Both of which can be purchased in crown store now for minimal cost. Why would they tell one group of people they had to pay for something and then turn around and just give it away to another group? They will (and should) keep it as an extra feature available for extra cost.

ShedsHisTail

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Edit: People saying "I paid for all races and I don't want you having it for free", It's not free the race change costs MORE than the dlc does.

And if one of us were to decide to change a character to Imperial... then we'd have paid for both Imperial Edition -and- the Race change. We're still getting the short end of the stick.

SolarCat02

I have those stupid treasure map chests clogging up my inventory. One of these days I need to go find them or trash them but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

AfkNinja

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Trublz wrote: »

No. I didn't buy any race any alliance so it could be freely given out to others

Isn't free. OP made that clear.

People paid for any race any alliance. People payed for Imperial Upgrade. Letting you bypass those requirements would indeed be getting those races for "free" as someone who already bought them who buys a race change paid more than you did. It's not that hard to grasp.