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Maelstrom.. I gave up!

GreenhaloX
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This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    You should look up a guide for it cause both of those are mechanics that can be avoided.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!

    Masochist? You're very much mistaken. You learn from failure, not take pleasure in it.
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  • DannyLV702
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    Even after completing the arena dozens of times, the ice stage is still the round I hate the most. Look up guides man, it's definitely possible without being hardcore (me as proof)
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    Even after completing the arena dozens of times, the ice stage is still the round I hate the most. Look up guides man, it's definitely possible without being hardcore (me as proof)

    The history of gaming teaches us one thing...

    Ice levels ****ing SUCK!
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on July 18, 2016 2:03AM
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  • disintegr8
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    I think this is something you either love or hate. Me dying over and over again repeating the same thing is not fun.

    Tried normal Maelstrom for the first time on Saturday night (after a few drinks) with my Templar Healer and got to the 6th round with only one death - in the ice round. I just thought I'd give it a try and had not looked up any guides. After about 4 deaths against the swarming wasps (I think that's what they were called) I packed it in and poured myself into bed.

    This sort of thing is not my idea of fun but one day when I am super chilled ( ;)) I may try again.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    The ice rink is a pain! Gap closers and ranged attacks are very helpful.
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  • GreenhaloX
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I think this is something you either love or hate. Me dying over and over again repeating the same thing is not fun.

    Tried normal Maelstrom for the first time on Saturday night (after a few drinks) with my Templar Healer and got to the 6th round with only one death - in the ice round. I just thought I'd give it a try and had not looked up any guides. After about 4 deaths against the swarming wasps (I think that's what they were called) I packed it in and poured myself into bed.

    This sort of thing is not my idea of fun but one day when I am super chilled ( ;)) I may try again.

    Ha ha. Exactly. I was surprised I was able to breeze through the 5th ice stage and took out that Giant momma before the last ice pad broke. I was excited then, but I was stressing out through the 6th, but made it. However, I was dying repeatedly in the 7th stage up to the final round.

    Hats off to you all having completed it and those repeatedly completing VMA over and over again. I bow to you all in admiration. But for me, life's too short. I'm going back to running dolmen. Maelstrom makes three 3 harvesters coming at you seems more like fun. Sheesh. Lol!
    Edited by GreenhaloX on July 18, 2016 2:23AM
  • Ep1kMalware
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!

    for my sta, build this was a patiemce fight of using dots and running around the room. magica builds just interrupt him iirc.
  • kadar
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I think this is something you either love or hate. Me dying over and over again repeating the same thing is not fun.

    Tried normal Maelstrom for the first time on Saturday night (after a few drinks) with my Templar Healer and got to the 6th round with only one death - in the ice round. I just thought I'd give it a try and had not looked up any guides. After about 4 deaths against the swarming wasps (I think that's what they were called) I packed it in and poured myself into bed.

    This sort of thing is not my idea of fun but one day when I am super chilled ( ;)) I may try again.

    Ha ha. Exactly. I was surprised I was able to breeze through the 5th ice stage and took out that Giant momma before the last ice pad broke. I was excited then, but I was stressing out through the 6th, but made it. However, I was dying repeatedly in the 7th stage up to the final round.

    Hats off to you all having completed it and those repeatedly completing VMA over and over again. I bow to you all in admiration. But for me, life's too short. I'm going back to running dolmen. Maelstrom makes three 3 harvesters coming at you seems more like fun. Sheesh. Lol!

    Sorry to hear you gave up! But like someone earlier mentioned, the 7th round boss scream and poison mushrooms are completely avoidable. Watch a 5 minute youtube video and keep your wits about you and you will take zero damage from either mechanic.
  • Milvan
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    Masochist? You're very much mistaken. You learn from failure, not take pleasure in it.

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  • Lore_lai
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    You *have* to go under the bubble-shield the minders create when the argonian behemoth boss does his enraged scream.
    So make sure you don't kill them both. Kill one -> boss screams - >go under bubble.
    If a venomcaller is out when he screams, don't worry, she'll die from the scream. So unless you get bad RNG and a mushroom pops under the bubble (which can happen, like, WTF ZoS) - you will be fine.

    Then make sure you pop the bubble minder fast when the boss finishes his scream.

    You *can* in theory interrupt the boss' scream but he will stay "enraged" and I think all of his attacks will hurt a LOT, if not insta-kill.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Milvan wrote: »
    Masochist? You're very much mistaken. You learn from failure, not take pleasure in it.

    aoz8kgx8pzknypz7z38n.jpg
    ;)

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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Milvan wrote: »
    Masochist? You're very much mistaken. You learn from failure, not take pleasure in it.

    aoz8kgx8pzknypz7z38n.jpg
    ;)

    is that dora the explorer irl?
  • Pallio
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    Stupid place is hard, have to watch you tube.videos and learn the horrible mechanics. Still working on it myself, will eventually get through it, as much if a rediculous elite dps / solo survival as it is, gotta have those uber weapons ...
  • Ep1kMalware
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    Pallio wrote: »
    Stupid place is hard, have to watch you tube.videos and learn the horrible mechanics. Still working on it myself, will eventually get through it, as much if a rediculous elite dps / solo survival as it is, gotta have those uber weapons ...

    what's your buik=ld setup like? I could offer strategies. videos gice a good starting point but everyone has a sdifferent path to success.
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    Lore_lai wrote: »
    You *have* to go under the bubble-shield the minders create when the argonian behemoth boss does his enraged scream.
    So make sure you don't kill them both. Kill one -> boss screams - >go under bubble.
    If a venomcaller is out when he screams, don't worry, she'll die from the scream. So unless you get bad RNG and a mushroom pops under the bubble (which can happen, like, WTF ZoS) - you will be fine.

    Then make sure you pop the bubble minder fast when the boss finishes his scream.

    You *can* in theory interrupt the boss' scream but he will stay "enraged" and I think all of his attacks will hurt a LOT, if not insta-kill.

    Ok.. thank you for the tip. I watched a few clips before and it all seems to make it look so easy.

    Seems from all you guys' advice and encouragement, I may try again in the somewhat, maybe near distant future, once I de-stress from rounds of harvesters thrashing.
  • Skinzz
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    Level 7 was hard for me but its fairly easy after u learn the mechanics
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  • GreenhaloX
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    Pallio wrote: »
    Stupid place is hard, have to watch you tube.videos and learn the horrible mechanics. Still working on it myself, will eventually get through it, as much if a rediculous elite dps / solo survival as it is, gotta have those uber weapons ...

    what's your buik=ld setup like? I could offer strategies. videos gice a good starting point but everyone has a sdifferent path to success.

    @Ep1kMalware, well.. I'm kind of stuck with this DK. I mean, I like it, but I just can't pick up and create another character, like to a stam NB or a sorc yet. I have put so much in getting this DK this far with all the CPs and whatnot built up. It's just so much work in building up a character, and I'm just at awe that so many people have so many different characters. I have the Igneous Shield, coagulating blood and hardened armor, so I believe I am ok defensively, and I can pack it punch with my wrecking blow that can dish out from 15-25k each hit. So, offensively, I can seem to run through those cronies and beasties like butter. I even ran through that Giant momma in the ice stage as well as the boss of the 6th stage more easily than before. I was even slicing through that behemoth boss of the 7th, until he does his screaming rage thing. So, you're right, it would have to come down to patience and learning the mechanic of the boss. My patience wore out after I kept getting blasted so many times by the volatile poison explosion in the first few rounds of the 7th. My DK is unfortunately slower to get away from those red circles. I don't have any streak or know how to gap closer, whatever this thing is. I'm going to have to sit back with a 12 pack and watch Pink Floyd's The Wall for a few days so I can de-stress a bit and think about maybe going back for another try later. Lol! Thank you for the tip, though.
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    Just look up a guide or watch a video.
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  • SienneYviete
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Pallio wrote: »
    Stupid place is hard, have to watch you tube.videos and learn the horrible mechanics. Still working on it myself, will eventually get through it, as much if a rediculous elite dps / solo survival as it is, gotta have those uber weapons ...

    what's your buik=ld setup like? I could offer strategies. videos gice a good starting point but everyone has a sdifferent path to success.

    @Ep1kMalware, well.. I'm kind of stuck with this DK. I mean, I like it, but I just can't pick up and create another character, like to a stam NB or a sorc yet. I have put so much in getting this DK this far with all the CPs and whatnot built up. It's just so much work in building up a character, and I'm just at awe that so many people have so many different characters. I have the Igneous Shield, coagulating blood and hardened armor, so I believe I am ok defensively, and I can pack it punch with my wrecking blow that can dish out from 15-25k each hit. So, offensively, I can seem to run through those cronies and beasties like butter. I even ran through that Giant momma in the ice stage as well as the boss of the 6th stage more easily than before. I was even slicing through that behemoth boss of the 7th, until he does his screaming rage thing. So, you're right, it would have to come down to patience and learning the mechanic of the boss. My patience wore out after I kept getting blasted so many times by the volatile poison explosion in the first few rounds of the 7th. My DK is unfortunately slower to get away from those red circles. I don't have any streak or know how to gap closer, whatever this thing is. I'm going to have to sit back with a 12 pack and watch Pink Floyd's The Wall for a few days so I can de-stress a bit and think about maybe going back for another try later. Lol! Thank you for the tip, though.

    If you're a stam build speed pots will help immensely if you're stuck on that phase of the boss fight.
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  • phairdon
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    Ventured into Maelstrom Arena during the weekend on normal mode, as I have not done any of the veteran dungeons before. Got stuck on the same stage too. My problem was all the ice being destroyed. Made no difference how many trolls killed as the boss also destroys the ice with its club. Certainly became frustrating. Exited out of the dungeon yesterday before losing the plot completely.
    All the stages beforehand were a breeze in comparison.
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  • AlnilamE
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I think this is something you either love or hate. Me dying over and over again repeating the same thing is not fun.

    Tried normal Maelstrom for the first time on Saturday night (after a few drinks) with my Templar Healer and got to the 6th round with only one death - in the ice round. I just thought I'd give it a try and had not looked up any guides. After about 4 deaths against the swarming wasps (I think that's what they were called) I packed it in and poured myself into bed.

    This sort of thing is not my idea of fun but one day when I am super chilled ( ;)) I may try again.

    Ha ha. Exactly. I was surprised I was able to breeze through the 5th ice stage and took out that Giant momma before the last ice pad broke. I was excited then, but I was stressing out through the 6th, but made it. However, I was dying repeatedly in the 7th stage up to the final round.

    Hats off to you all having completed it and those repeatedly completing VMA over and over again. I bow to you all in admiration. But for me, life's too short. I'm going back to running dolmen. Maelstrom makes three 3 harvesters coming at you seems more like fun. Sheesh. Lol!

    The first time I did Maelstrom I really didn't figure out the mechanic of the spider swarm and I just kept kiting around. Then I read the message that pops and it clicked! You have to run them to a pilon that's glowing and they will scatter away. The other spiders that come out will cover a pilon in webs, but you can clear that by throwing the fleshbomb that spawns when you kill the hoarvor on top of them (or if you kill the hoarvor near the pilon). If you keep that in mind, that stage is not that hard in Normal. I have not tried vet past stage 1 yet. I am of the same mind as the OP that there are enough sources of stress. I have been feeling the itch to go back and try again though.
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Ventured into Maelstrom Arena during the weekend on normal mode, as I have not done any of the veteran dungeons before. Got stuck on the same stage too. My problem was all the ice being destroyed. Made no difference how many trolls killed as the boss also destroys the ice with its club. Certainly became frustrating. Exited out of the dungeon yesterday before losing the plot completely.
    All the stages beforehand were a breeze in comparison.

    Boss destroys platforms at certain health levels. So you need to be careful with DPS on her. Take out adds as first priority, then return to DPS on boss. You don't want a ton of mobs up and a ton of stuff going on when she breaks ice. You want to quickly get to one of the intact ice shelves after she breaks one, which is difficult if there are a bunch of adds alive smacking you, snaring you, stunning you, etc.
  • disintegr8
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    It was the spider swarms that kep getting me in round 6, not swarming wasps - see them everywhere else in the game.
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Pallio wrote: »
    Stupid place is hard, have to watch you tube.videos and learn the horrible mechanics. Still working on it myself, will eventually get through it, as much if a rediculous elite dps / solo survival as it is, gotta have those uber weapons ...

    what's your buik=ld setup like? I could offer strategies. videos gice a good starting point but everyone has a sdifferent path to success.

    @Ep1kMalware, well.. I'm kind of stuck with this DK. I mean, I like it, but I just can't pick up and create another character, like to a stam NB or a sorc yet. I have put so much in getting this DK this far with all the CPs and whatnot built up. It's just so much work in building up a character, and I'm just at awe that so many people have so many different characters. I have the Igneous Shield, coagulating blood and hardened armor, so I believe I am ok defensively, and I can pack it punch with my wrecking blow that can dish out from 15-25k each hit. So, offensively, I can seem to run through those cronies and beasties like butter. I even ran through that Giant momma in the ice stage as well as the boss of the 6th stage more easily than before. I was even slicing through that behemoth boss of the 7th, until he does his screaming rage thing. So, you're right, it would have to come down to patience and learning the mechanic of the boss. My patience wore out after I kept getting blasted so many times by the volatile poison explosion in the first few rounds of the 7th. My DK is unfortunately slower to get away from those red circles. I don't have any streak or know how to gap closer, whatever this thing is. I'm going to have to sit back with a 12 pack and watch Pink Floyd's The Wall for a few days so I can de-stress a bit and think about maybe going back for another try later. Lol! Thank you for the tip, though.

    you don't want to use wreckingblow, it takes way too long to do sny damage. what I did om my stamplar was I ran in a square, corner to corner. you can use critrush on the ,inders but NEVER through the middle or you could rush over a mushroo, amd get killt. You can easilly kill them witj a charged poison injection, if you're unsure toss am arrow barrage on them.

    minders are a top priority because 2 of them with that glitched out teleport can insta kill you, so burn one dowm fast. I weakem the other one with a poisom injection so he's easy to kill the sec the boss aint screaming.

    i use the square [attern as this gives me easy access to ampoison pool. 2h amd bow is good choice here.

    I dps the bosss using dots like carve amd poisom injection, it's slow until he's 30ish% health then it's game. it;s all about patience here. this strategy isn't fast at all but it gives ,e the highest successrate sofar. you can dodgeroll with bow fkr speed boost amd use stam/speed potions as well.

  • Ep1kMalware
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    for stg5 stay on first platform, adfs amd platform dets are on a health based timer, so no worries. for the troll a heavy/poison injectiom amd critrush work well. wath for the red pulse telling you he's gunna s,asj the platfor, amd gtfo.

    after first platfor, move to far right. adds will spawm nearby if you utilize the platfor,s in the correct order. fimally use platfor, with power shield sigil. at 35-40% healtj grab both sigils, ignore adds amd just execute boss, adds are ranged amd will kill themselves.
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  • Egonieser
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    It really is not that difficult once you learn the mechanics and counters. The right build and a timely rolldodge goes a long long way aswell. I completed it with just one death with a strictly PvP build nightblade with 15k health... How? Dodge right and take no damage at all or keep it to a minimum. Needless to say, doing it on a magicka class was a breeze all together, both my Sorcerer and Templar had no struggles at all, just shield up during a hard hitting attack and keep them HoT's going.

    Trying to attempt it on DK next, but as it stands his build is a bit behind.

    I am in no way a PvE expert, but this comparatively to 1 vs X daily in PvP is a cakewalk, a braindead mob is still a braindead mob no matter how hard it hits, it's all about memorizing mechanics, nothing else xD
    Edited by Egonieser on July 18, 2016 7:58AM
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  • altemriel
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!

    this is end game content for hardcore players, it is supposed to be super hard!!

    yes, check out some tutorials for that :)
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