How to get blood spawn dps test in under a minute?

darthsithis

Thanks for the replies and input everyone! I am doing elegance and kena and things worked out well

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Tyrannitar wrote: »

Noerknhar wrote: »

On some of the Tips provided in this thread, I would like to ask the following:
What is a dps test worth if you play completely different to what you do in raids?

... To be honest with you: this is just the form of elitism that's taken place in this game.

I've seen tons of vMoL raid groups use bloodspawn for a dps test benchmark even though that raid and this boss have almost 0 similarities....

It's really just a numbers competition and people use this boss as a punching dummy. Idk why.

I get the frustration with DPS tests for guild invites, but I do understand them. The reality is that if you cant pull 25k on Bloodspawn, you probably have a fundamental problem with your build, rotation, or knowledge of your class in some way. Or you are new and just need some practice. You certainly have no business in vet maw if you cant do that. The DPS checks in that place are real. Bloodspawn is nice because it is a single target fight with about the right amount of health for a fight to last a solid minute, which for most people is about a full rotation with one ulti drop.

Vangy

For dot based builds;

ie: ability (dot) --> Costs ___ stam/mag and does ______ damage over ____ seconds.
spam ability --> Costs ___ and does ____ damage.

A few things to consider. Is damage/time for dot greater than spam ability? If yes then awesome (use it). If no, consider any special effects that DOT has. Is it worth? If yes, then awesome. Use it. If no, consider resource management over long fights like serpent. Can U just power thru and spam ur ability without running into emtpy resources? If yes, then dont use that particular DOT. If no, then u might wanna consider keeping up 1 or 2 DOTS to help u do damage while keeping your resources up.
The last thing to consider is time remaning on fight. If boss is going to die in 5 seconds, you'd want to use an execute ability or a spammable ability cos ur DOT wont last long enough to be worth the cast.

clv

Rjizzle09 wrote: »

Im with KORE a pve focused guild with very competitive pmayers and for dps tests we used to use blood spawn but no help is given to the dps qe wanna see how they perform without war horn and spell power cure so none of that is brought into the test. I got 42 secs using 5 viper 5 vicious ophidian im currently waiting to try twice born and vicious but anyway now we use the attro in aetherian archive since it has more health and resistamces cause blood soawn just dies way too fast to get a good representation and again no war horn or spc in there either. i scored 115 on that one. The minor slayer really helps to lower your time on any class

off topic but that's roughly 35k dps- my magblade pulls higher. no maelstroms? also somewhat questioning the use of viper as a primary 5p. wouldn't nmg/tbs be better?

LadyNalcarya

@Rjizzle09 wrote: »

Im with KORE a pve focused guild with very competitive pmayers and for dps tests we used to use blood spawn but no help is given to the dps qe wanna see how they perform without war horn and spell power cure so none of that is brought into the test. I got 42 secs using 5 viper 5 vicious ophidian im currently waiting to try twice born and vicious but anyway now we use the attro in aetherian archive since it has more health and resistamces cause blood soawn just dies way too fast to get a good representation and again no war horn or spc in there either. i scored 115 on that one. The minor slayer really helps to lower your time on any class

Why no buffs? o_O
You'll have full buffs in raid anyway.

IwakuraLain42

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Why no buffs? o_O
You'll have full buffs in raid anyway.

Because it's meant to be a normalized test under fixed conditions. Not every group has the same buffs, so no buff is given at all.

failkiwib16_ESO

For those who are wondering, Bloodspawn is used for dps measuring because because:

• single boss, no adds.
• tankable.
• outhealable.
• no interrupting mechanics.
• have enough hitpoints for 1 Damage Dealer to take it down within a minute.
• but not enough hitpoints so it becomes a dragged out fight.

There are problems with this test, such as the resistances of the boss. Certain types of damage deals more than other types of damage, because the boss has more resistance toward those, and it is unfair to compare all classes and builds with it.
We do not have better options in the game... we lack training dummies badly.

Destyran

I can only get 59 seconds on my magplar with a meteor. Im trash have no idea how to improve it. Hahaha. Any tips?

SolarCat02

Tyrannitar wrote: »

Noerknhar wrote: »

On some of the Tips provided in this thread, I would like to ask the following:
What is a dps test worth if you play completely different to what you do in raids?

... To be honest with you: this is just the form of elitism that's taken place in this game.

I've seen tons of vMoL raid groups use bloodspawn for a dps test benchmark even though that raid and this boss have almost 0 similarities....

It's really just a numbers competition and people use this boss as a punching dummy. Idk why.

I always figured it was sort of like an SAT test or something. I used maybe 5% of the stuff I studied for the SAT when I got into college, but the assumption was that if I could do well on the SAT, I could also make the college look good.

But not everyone takes tests well, so any method has its limits.

Ep1kMalware

darthsithis wrote: »

Thanks lolo- I will use sharpened then.

tank held him there with the weakest agro possible (i don't know how tanks can do that without dps-ing, but anyways)...and elemental drain was cast on the boss, and i had heals incoming.

they said what they'd like to see improve, and I took it to heart and said I would practice. The leader demonstrated using narien'th or valkyn skoria instead of molag kena. I think resources (and not damage) was the issue, but in real life I would use kena and regenerate magicka with overload anyways. It seems weird to optimize a build for a test that I don't feel would be optimal dps in a trial, so wondering what else I could do to with the limitations set in place (which i want to respect and am capable of succeeding at...i mean i was one second off the first time...)

So champ points in thaumaturge? ditch one kena piece? put an irrestable damage enchant on the staff instead of the spell power? or ice enchant? or fire?

I think this is the only roadblock for a community I want to be a part of and contribute to. Just never done a dps test like this before.

Assume inner fire for tank? maybe not though.

bloodspawn testd are real tricky, because there are certain build setups that work better in a trial than on the bloodspawn to begim with, and there are certain gearsets I wouldn't use thete that I'd use in a trial.

for example in vet sanctum I'f increase my max health a bit more and I'm asked to put warhorn on ,y backbar (swap to nova for osara). in bloodspawn test, I'f obviously use jewelry that gave me an extra 5k max stam, because dps.

also dependa on if I'm getting full on raid tested or tested with self buffs. If I'm ger=tring tested with raid buffs I'm going to use tbs/etc whereas with self buffs I may score slightlt better with nightmothers.

the whoke thing is kinda weird. I think it's mainly to assess dmg output, resource management, and to see if your skilk rotation is't goofy.

this one guy last night had very goofy skills, tooks him well kver 2 min.

darthsithis

Hmm ppl are insisting and even yelling at me for not doing destro destro even though I get like 30 seconds less with destro dw...

So rotation wise...? After putting rearming

Dw: buff, boundless, liquid, curse swap
Destro: woe, weave, reapply velocious, drag whenever, reapply dw buffs...

Destro destro is getting me like 1:40 lol and this setup does 1:01

Y ppl insisting I use destro destro?

Also, ty for all the responses cut my time down quite a bit.

darthsithis

And I haven't been on in a month, ilambris tbs, aether and maelstrom the way to go? Or kena with warlock jewelry

boom782

The current meta is burning spellweave, llambris, aether with maelstrom staff back bar and aether front. The reason for double destro is that maelstrom enchant carries over to front bar for weaving if you lay blockade down on back. Then you can use aether staff with a spell dmg enchant.

idk

@darthsithis

Kena is not really used anymore. Assuming magika mele you would want grothdar.

Sharpened is much better than nirnhone.

With a good build and getting comfortable with the build you should be able to get to about one minute without having WH,SPC, CP or any buffs like that.

threefarms

Ilambris in combination with your destro dot and liquid lightning will increase your dps bigly. When both fire and shock proc, I've gotten the final VMA boss to 70% in no time flat. Ilambris is BIS for mag sorcerer dps, simple as that. Overload also procs it.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

darthsithis wrote: »

And I haven't been on in a month, ilambris tbs, aether and maelstrom the way to go? Or kena with warlock jewelry

@darthsithis

Holy Necro'ed Thread Batman. haha.

TBS, Llambris, and Aether front with VMA back staff is still arguably BIS (but both weapons MUST be sharp). If your rotation is perfect, you will do a touch more with Burning Spellweave, but it's not a lot. I personally run TBS on my sorc as we are working on VMOL HM, and the extra health is far more beneficial. I carry both. On the first two fights I can pull a touch more on BSW, but then I have to run and grab my mundus for the last boss. Not worth it, so I just run TBS most of the time. The difference is really small. If your rotation is not great and you arent perfect with your blockade uptime (which impacts BSW uptime), TBS will be better anyway.

darthsithis

So I ran maelstrom with dual destro (aether and maelstrom) scathing Mage 5x, aether jewelry and tried swotching between ilambris + grothdar and got my highest score lol. So destro destro it is- and bye bye kena

Im farming for burning spell weave tho, can't wait to try it- I've peen practicing my rotation with a timer lol feeling good about it