Radiant Destruction

hammayolettuce · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

People dislike the skill, we get it, but can we at least be realistic please? We also don't need a 20th thread debating the skill, this one was pretty narrowly focused on the LoS being bugged.

Ok, forum police.

Vigor should do damage if it ticks while you're dodge-rolling. There. Another annoying mechanic that tons of people hate, and the idea is as ridiculous as making RD do damage.

Darnathian wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

You have a better idea against dodge roller/ shuffle players? some damage is better than none.

I guess neither of you know that I've been playing magicka Templar pretty much exclusively for the past three weeks, so that wasn't a "nerf Templar" comment. I run a healer spec with only 3 dps abilities. Puncturing sweep is just fine against roll dodgers for me. The Jesus beam *** gets annoying to everyone, I know it's not just me. I haven't experienced the bug op is talking about since my beam always breaks when a player breaks LoS, but I do acknowledge that something like that should be fixed ASAP.
Zheg, I'm pretty sure you made that comment specifically to get to me since you know I play stamplar, but to be honest, I would totally be fine with that change. I'll use my breath of life to heal my team while they roll dodge. Losing a 2k tic of health is kind of irrelevant. Also, get off your high horse and stop acting like you've never made a troll comment on the forums.

God_flakes · July 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Needs buffing. A tree wouldn't stop Jesus.

Something made of trees certainly did.

Zheg · July 2016

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

People dislike the skill, we get it, but can we at least be realistic please? We also don't need a 20th thread debating the skill, this one was pretty narrowly focused on the LoS being bugged.

Ok, forum police.

Vigor should do damage if it ticks while you're dodge-rolling. There. Another annoying mechanic that tons of people hate, and the idea is as ridiculous as making RD do damage.

Darnathian wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

You have a better idea against dodge roller/ shuffle players? some damage is better than none.

I guess neither of you know that I've been playing magicka Templar pretty much exclusively for the past three weeks, so that wasn't a "nerf Templar" comment. I run a healer spec with only 3 dps abilities. Puncturing sweep is just fine against roll dodgers for me. The Jesus beam *** gets annoying to everyone, I know it's not just me. I haven't experienced the bug op is talking about since my beam always breaks when a player breaks LoS, but I do acknowledge that something like that should be fixed ASAP.
Zheg, I'm pretty sure you made that comment specifically to get to me since you know I play stamplar, but to be honest, I would totally be fine with that change. I'll use my breath of life to heal my team while they roll dodge. Losing a 2k tic of health is kind of irrelevant. Also, get off your high horse and stop acting like you've never made a troll comment on the forums.

Oh, I've made tons of troll comments, but the sad thing is I think you actually would be happy with a ludicrous change like the one you suggested, so I'm not sure that's really a troll. It's indicative of how absurd the jesus beam hate has become, and the vigor example was meant to demonstrate something equally absurd to hopefully get people (particular the stam builds that make up most of the complainers) back to a rock-paper-scissor reality.

FENGRUSH · July 2016

Scale RD dmg up as beam holds, take away initial insta hit and slightly lower first tick.

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Scale RD dmg up as beam holds, take away initial insta hit and slightly lower first tick.

This would solve a lot of the problems with it, for sure.

Something like first tick doesn't scale with health, 2nd tick half the scaling, 3rd tick onward full current damage.

Esgameplaya1 · July 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

Zheg · July 2016

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

Van_0S · July 2016

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

Why are they using the unmorph version of Raident oppression?

Joy_Division · July 2016

Van_0S wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

Why are they using the unmorph version of Raident oppression?

Because the poster doctored the damage recap as opposed to posting an authenticate one.

hammayolettuce · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

People dislike the skill, we get it, but can we at least be realistic please? We also don't need a 20th thread debating the skill, this one was pretty narrowly focused on the LoS being bugged.

Ok, forum police.

Vigor should do damage if it ticks while you're dodge-rolling. There. Another annoying mechanic that tons of people hate, and the idea is as ridiculous as making RD do damage.

Darnathian wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'd like to see radiant do damage to its caster when used on a target with 90% health or higher. I'm dead serious. Read your *** tooltip, Templars.

You have a better idea against dodge roller/ shuffle players? some damage is better than none.

I guess neither of you know that I've been playing magicka Templar pretty much exclusively for the past three weeks, so that wasn't a "nerf Templar" comment. I run a healer spec with only 3 dps abilities. Puncturing sweep is just fine against roll dodgers for me. The Jesus beam *** gets annoying to everyone, I know it's not just me. I haven't experienced the bug op is talking about since my beam always breaks when a player breaks LoS, but I do acknowledge that something like that should be fixed ASAP.
Zheg, I'm pretty sure you made that comment specifically to get to me since you know I play stamplar, but to be honest, I would totally be fine with that change. I'll use my breath of life to heal my team while they roll dodge. Losing a 2k tic of health is kind of irrelevant. Also, get off your high horse and stop acting like you've never made a troll comment on the forums.

Oh, I've made tons of troll comments, but the sad thing is I think you actually would be happy with a ludicrous change like the one you suggested, so I'm not sure that's really a troll. It's indicative of how absurd the jesus beam hate has become, and the vigor example was meant to demonstrate something equally absurd to hopefully get people (particular the stam builds that make up most of the complainers) back to a rock-paper-scissor reality.

I hit the wrong person all the time because of lag, that change would wreck me. Lighten up.

Elong · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

I run it with my Skoria set up, every dot helps my awful rng!

Zheg · July 2016

Elong wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

I run it with my Skoria set up, every dot helps my awful rng!

Ew. Besides of which, don't encourage wrobel to further wrobelize templars please.

I'm also curious as to @Van_0S 's question. Is there yet another stupid bug with an unmorphed skill like stam sorcs' implosion? FFS.

Elong · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

I run it with my Skoria set up, every dot helps my awful rng!

Elong wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

I run it with my Skoria set up, every dot helps my awful rng!

Ew. Besides of which, don't encourage wrobel to further wrobelize templars please.

Our house can be a house of thorns (or pricks in my case) too.

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

Panth141 · July 2016

After a few more hours of PvP this evening I am officially salty. Nerf it 'til it's dead.

In all seriousness I stand by making it LoS-able

Elong · July 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

would it be what she said? idk

Elong · July 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

would it be what she said? idk

That's why I asked! There's no grills on the internet.

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

would it be what she said? idk

That's why I asked! There's no grills on the internet.

ofc not. no grills at all.

I think the real question here tho is why did that guy doctor that damage recap O:

Elong · July 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

would it be what she said? idk

That's why I asked! There's no grills on the internet.

ofc not. no grills at all.

I think the real question here tho is why did that guy doctor that damage recap O:

I'm upset I haven't got a 4k RD on there too. Damn you THOT.

DisgracefulMind · July 2016

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

I know the point was RD... but who else is more surprised that a templar is running ritual of retribution?

DAMN! Ernie's final tick was larger than mine!

That's what she said?

would it be what she said? idk

That's why I asked! There's no grills on the internet.

ofc not. no grills at all.

I think the real question here tho is why did that guy doctor that damage recap O:

I'm upset I haven't got a 4k RD on there too. Damn you THOT.

THOT stole the glory with his Ritual of Retribution. Curse the THOT.

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Needs buffing. A tree wouldn't stop Jesus.

Something made of trees certainly did.

It didn't stick.

Kilandros · July 2016

Esgameplaya1 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I do think that that particular problem needs to be fixed.

It really doesn't happen for me very often, but it happens to me

omg don't fix this; what skill would you use then

That photoshop tho

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Scale RD dmg up as beam holds, take away initial insta hit and slightly lower first tick.

@Fengrush, This is the most reasonable 'nerf RD' suggestion I've ever seen. I'd like to add I do play Templar, but I've been strictly Stamplar/Tankplar for 99% of my playthrough as a Temp. RD has never been something I took joy in, but I can understand why Magplars wanted/needed something like it. Templar was in a bad way for a long time, and anyone who didn't see that was selling something or happy with the class being relegated to Healer-only. I am by the way one of those people who wanted to keep his Blinding Flashes, so I just want to repeat that, so it is clear where my defense of Radiant comes from. In many ways I STILL want my Blinding Flashes. Just like I wish DK's still had a proper Flame Cloak - an iconic elderscrolls spell I might add.

I do think RD should hit like a ton of bricks though when executing, regardless. If someone is at 10-20% health when hit by this skill, it should hurt like a mofo, first tick or not.

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Needs buffing. A tree wouldn't stop Jesus.

Something made of trees certainly did.

It didn't stick.

Well most people expect to be rezzed anyways.

Satiar · July 2016

I dont understand the fuss. When i go out soloing with my 6 pocket healers I have almost zero problems with RD.

zyk · July 2016

I would be happy if RD's range was decreased to the point that its shortcoming is always relevant and therefore players must think more carefully about using it. I think its shortcoming--that it is a channeled ability--is rendered useless by its range most of the time.

The biggest issue I have with it is at a gameplay level. There are players I observe who seem to spend their entire play sessions following a zerg around and long-range executing from relative safety. I think it's way to easy to profit from it. The 5+ beams that immediately attach to a player who approaches a large group of opponents is evidence that this is widespread.

Lyar09 · July 2016

I like turtles

Esgameplaya1 · July 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

Because the poster doctored the damage recap as opposed to posting an authenticate one..

Why would you think I doctored it? I did no such thing!!.

Easy mode Templars FTW!!

Calboy · July 2016

Yeah because dawn breaker and reverse slice aren't overpowered at all