Bound Armor Feedback

Strider_Roshin

Yeah I'm not a fan of the armaments at all. Can we please make them the same and just change the hue?

CasNation

Derra wrote: »

Can you change bound armor to count as a "pet" for necropotence pretty please

And also that 8% health boost passive please

Grao

Flaminir wrote: »

As much as I like the visuals for bound aegis ( I didn't expect to.... but that looks really nice)... it actually frustrates me that time has gone into this change rather than doing anything useful with any of the class skills

Couldn't agree more. My current suggestions for Aegis and Armaments:

• Make Bound Armor and Morphs count as a Summon as it is in the Summoner Tree
• Swap the Health Bonus in Expert Summoner with the Magika Bonus in Bound Aegis. Bound Aegis should be a tanking skill and all pets scale from Magika. This set up simply makes more sense.
• Bound Aegis active is a HoT.
• Bound Armaments active empowers your weapon causing its light and heavy attacks to cause either Magic or Physical damage depending on your greater resource pool.

Those changes coupled with Dark Exchange being transformed into a Spammable with a ranged stamina morph that regains a portion of the damamge done as magika and a melee magika morph that regains part of the damage dealt as stamina would create the most absurd and entertaining builds ever.

dsalter

CasNation wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Can you change bound armor to count as a "pet" for necropotence pretty please

And also that 8% health boost passive please

i believe it already works for the 8% hp

Erock25

dsalter wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Can you change bound armor to count as a "pet" for necropotence pretty please

And also that 8% health boost passive please

i believe it already works for the 8% hp

That's a negative, chief.

dsalter

Erock25 wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Can you change bound armor to count as a "pet" for necropotence pretty please

And also that 8% health boost passive please

i believe it already works for the 8% hp

That's a negative, chief.

really? i notice when i unslot mine i drop some hp, odd, maybe it's some character based?

ADarklore

I agree about Bound Armaments, the new visual is too extreme and distracting... the devs LISTENED when it came to animation feedback about Sorc's Hurricane, hopefully they listen about BA as well!!

dsalter

ADarklore wrote: »

I agree about Bound Armaments, the new visual is too extreme and distracting... the devs LISTENED when it came to animation feedback about Sorc's Hurricane, hopefully they listen about BA as well!!

not only that but it's purple, they made a point stam sorc should be a faded blue storm colour and by damn they'll stick to it

Dymence

Grao wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

As much as I like the visuals for bound aegis ( I didn't expect to.... but that looks really nice)... it actually frustrates me that time has gone into this change rather than doing anything useful with any of the class skills

Couldn't agree more. My current suggestions for Aegis and Armaments:

• Swap the Health Bonus in Expert Summoner with the Magika Bonus in Bound Aegis. Bound Aegis should be a tanking skill and all pets scale from Magika. This set up simply makes more sense.

Regardless of our past disagreements, I agree with this part 100%. It would just open up so much more options for sorcs in term of playstyle and gear. It makes more sense for an armor skill to make you tanky - thus gaining the 8% health currently in the summoning passive, and it would make a lot more sense for pets to give you damage, thus giving you the 8% magicka aegis currently provides when summoned..

Derra

Dymence wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

As much as I like the visuals for bound aegis ( I didn't expect to.... but that looks really nice)... it actually frustrates me that time has gone into this change rather than doing anything useful with any of the class skills

Couldn't agree more. My current suggestions for Aegis and Armaments:

• Swap the Health Bonus in Expert Summoner with the Magika Bonus in Bound Aegis. Bound Aegis should be a tanking skill and all pets scale from Magika. This set up simply makes more sense.

Regardless of our past disagreements, I agree with this part 100%. It would just open up so much more options for sorcs in term of playstyle and gear. It makes more sense for an armor skill to make you tanky - thus gaining the 8% health currently in the summoning passive, and it would make a lot more sense for pets to give you damage, thus giving you the 8% magicka aegis currently provides when summoned..

But it could also be a big setback for sorcs in raid settings.

Pets still die a lot and eat healing/buffs from grp members.

I´d go with something like the NB passive: Increases max magica by 8% with twilight, familar or bound armor slotted and give bound armor the 8% health. This would open up possibilities in both directions - with our without pets.

Any toggle gives you dmg (as a compensation for still having 3 toggles as classskills - nobody wants them) and bound armor gives health.

Grao

Derra wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

As much as I like the visuals for bound aegis ( I didn't expect to.... but that looks really nice)... it actually frustrates me that time has gone into this change rather than doing anything useful with any of the class skills

Couldn't agree more. My current suggestions for Aegis and Armaments:

• Swap the Health Bonus in Expert Summoner with the Magika Bonus in Bound Aegis. Bound Aegis should be a tanking skill and all pets scale from Magika. This set up simply makes more sense.

Regardless of our past disagreements, I agree with this part 100%. It would just open up so much more options for sorcs in term of playstyle and gear. It makes more sense for an armor skill to make you tanky - thus gaining the 8% health currently in the summoning passive, and it would make a lot more sense for pets to give you damage, thus giving you the 8% magicka aegis currently provides when summoned..

But it could also be a big setback for sorcs in raid settings.

Pets still die a lot and eat healing/buffs from grp members.

I´d go with something like the NB passive: Increases max magica by 8% with twilight, familar or bound armor slotted and give bound armor the 8% health. This would open up possibilities in both directions - with our without pets.

Any toggle gives you dmg (as a compensation for still having 3 toggles as classskills - nobody wants them) and bound armor gives health.

That change would need to be coupled with a few changes to the pets (which by the way do not steal heals anymore. That fixed a really long time ago). They do need to be made tankiers though, or more precisely, they have to have greater health pools than 7-8k health.

On top of that pets need to be properly affected by the Champion system and our passives, which currently they aren't.

Jar_Ek

So pets don't take heals from healers? How the hell do stamina tanks get any use of them now?

Dymence

Derra wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

As much as I like the visuals for bound aegis ( I didn't expect to.... but that looks really nice)... it actually frustrates me that time has gone into this change rather than doing anything useful with any of the class skills

Couldn't agree more. My current suggestions for Aegis and Armaments:

• Swap the Health Bonus in Expert Summoner with the Magika Bonus in Bound Aegis. Bound Aegis should be a tanking skill and all pets scale from Magika. This set up simply makes more sense.

Regardless of our past disagreements, I agree with this part 100%. It would just open up so much more options for sorcs in term of playstyle and gear. It makes more sense for an armor skill to make you tanky - thus gaining the 8% health currently in the summoning passive, and it would make a lot more sense for pets to give you damage, thus giving you the 8% magicka aegis currently provides when summoned..

But it could also be a big setback for sorcs in raid settings.

Pets still die a lot and eat healing/buffs from grp members.

I´d go with something like the NB passive: Increases max magica by 8% with twilight, familar or bound armor slotted and give bound armor the 8% health. This would open up possibilities in both directions - with our without pets.

Any toggle gives you dmg (as a compensation for still having 3 toggles as classskills - nobody wants them) and bound armor gives health.

I think you raise a fair point, but pets already die a lot less than they used to due to the reduced amount of AOE damage they take.

ADarklore

Any news on getting the Bound Armaments effect color changed on this to more blue or at least toned down a bit compared to Bound Aegis?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

ADarklore

Just had a chance to get more time with this and can only say that it is extremely distracting IMO... the whole constant animation moving... makes me wonder how many people will suffer motion sickness from this... staring at their character with this constant fluttering of color like a spastic tornado grooving to the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack. WHY can't ZOS just leave well enough alone?!? If this is going to stay, how about a darn TOGGLE for those of us who don't care for the visual distraction. As it is now, if this remains, I'll be forced to remove it from my loadout. I like being able to activate BA and have it active permanently, but with these changes that isn't possible, and I don't want to constantly be activating and deactivating just for combat- especially when you're questing and going from combat to combat.

Ffastyl

I was hoping for a transparent overlay of the original Daedric and Xivkyn armors, similar to the Dragon Aspect shout from TESV.

Alcast

Ffastyl wrote: »

I was hoping for a transparent overlay of the original Daedric and Xivkyn armors, similar to the Dragon Aspect shout from TESV.

now that would be freaking sick. Cool idea

Alp

Would be cool if Bound Armaments had a dark cloud like smoke effect like you see when activating it on live atm.

Ffastyl

Some more pictures of Dragon Aspect.






The Devs definitely have Skyrim, so they can fire it up and see for themselves, but can't hurt to post more examples.

SRIBES

Ooo glowing weapons. I would love to see something like evil hunter or siphoning attack but purple on weapons with bound armor.

bebynnag

if bound armourments satys like this i shall have to invest in a new bucket... for the motion sickness!

cpuScientist

@ZOS_GinaBruno Amy way this could be looked at. Alot of people really love the aegis morph visuals. But the stamina version is a but clunky. Could we just have a different hue of the magicka version, maybe a grayish tone like with hurricane or a dark blue or whatever. The armaments is very distracting.

Also PLEASE let it be a non toggle....

Mettaricana

I rather see the bound weapons glow the npcs use when you agro a mage at the mages guild. It was just on the weapons looked cool not clunky and kinda helps reflect the heavy attack bonus

AmakarGranaen

Aegis is super cool!
But armaments would would be better off as Skyrim like dragon aspect.

Erock25

Armaments looks terrible! Please please change it. I'd prefer no effect to what is there currently.

Birdovic

No Idea what people dislike so much about it, its not "awesome" nor "awful". But thats just my opinion^^

cpuScientist

Just give us a grey toned aegis. It can look windy or just a simple color change. Just not that horrid distracting thing we have on pts. PLEASE

Mush55

Apply effect to weapons, or as some say give a grey aura...................

Didaco

Oh god, Bound Aegis just won EVERYTHING!

Digiman

Hate the whole changes in general. I am an old school ES fan and loved my mage who could summon daedric weapons bound to him temporarily but the changes and removal of the armor visual spits in the face of that.

I would of been fine if they made it transparent like with skyrim dragon aspect shout as a toggle if people are worried about their armor as a sorcerer.

Personally though the whole ability isn't really that good for the cost of being on all weapon bars to keep up.