The Unofficial Cloak Thread

altemriel

ManDraKE wrote: »

asneakybanana wrote: »

Dark flare, all gap closers, light attacks, the guard mages that give you the dot from their lightning attack, seems like channeled beam type attacks such as radiant and lightning heavy attacks. All I can think of right now but im sure there's more

Not all gap closers, the only ones i noticed are ambush and toppling charge.
Light attacks are weird, i think only meele LA are breaking cloak, but not sure, need to test.
The *** guards are pain in the ass, is imposible to cloak while the guards are on you
About channeled attacks haven't noticed anything, i usually cloak the jesus beam.

for guards the only thing you need is a bit of stamina and rapid maneuvers (assault skill line), you run from them and when far enought, cloak and you are safe

DDuke

I've pretty much given up on cloak at this point - not only does ZOS fail to permanently (we've seen plenty of temporary fixes) fix the abundance of bugs associated with it, but they've also made the skill a niche escaping tool with the latest changes to Vigor & Ambush and the ways how they function with cloak.

At this point, I believe cloak (and the stealth gameplay in general) needs a complete revamp to make it more interesting.

asneakybanana

ManDraKE wrote: »

asneakybanana wrote: »

Dark flare, all gap closers, light attacks, the guard mages that give you the dot from their lightning attack, seems like channeled beam type attacks such as radiant and lightning heavy attacks. All I can think of right now but im sure there's more

Not all gap closers, the only ones i noticed are ambush and toppling charge.
Light attacks are weird, i think only meele LA are breaking cloak, but not sure, need to test.
The *** guards are pain in the ass, is imposible to cloak while the guards are on you
About channeled attacks haven't noticed anything, i usually cloak the jesus beam.

When I cloak beam it seems to break the beam but a lot of the times i will immediately be pulled out of cloak.

Jaronking

@wrobban @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno Can we please have cloak fixed or revert the change to removed the purge because right now I don't know what ability doesn't bring you out of cloak.Can you guys please fix this.

IwakuraLain42

What is really annoying is the fact that its now (again) 3 months after the latest Cloak "fixes" and still the skill is unreliable (and I'm not talking about the vigor bug that was declared a feature later on). There is mentioning of any fixes in the latest PTS notes so I have assume that we (again) will see no fixes.

If a stealth based gameplay is really wanted then ZOS should really fix this skill (and Mist Cloud as well) or just remove the skill completely and give us poor Nightblades some other defensive/offensive tools.

Memnock

I am not sure why the dot purge was removed from cloak and turned into a dot suppression thing. I mean , with the way thing work right now , reverting it to a purge would be fastest and most efficient solution to have this skill behave like its supposed to.

I mean this may be because i don't play a dot based build on any of my characters , but i do not see the impact of having a dot purge instead of a suppression effect that does not work properly , most probably due to how it clashes with the mechanics of other skills.

GreenSoup2HoT

Memnock wrote: »

I am not sure why the dot purge was removed from cloak and turned into a dot suppression thing. I mean , with the way thing work right now , reverting it to a purge would be fastest and most efficient solution to have this skill behave like its supposed to.

I mean this may be because i don't play a dot based build on any of my characters , but i do not see the impact of having a dot purge instead of a suppression effect that does not work properly , most probably due to how it clashes with the mechanics of other skills.

I agree. The DoT purge was strong yes but its what made the ability function. Half the dots i should be surpressing are breaking cloak it seems.

Instead of removing the purge they could of made it so status effects and debuffs were not purged (armour/healing debuffs etc). Just remove DoTs.

Its whatever at this point. I make it work but its still pretty janky.

Its not like bringing back DoT purge would be op considering how many more abilitys crush cloak users. (Mage Light, Expert Hunter, Hurricane. Every aoe in game. Piercing Mark. Caltrops. Detect pots.)

silky_soft

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Memnock wrote: »

I am not sure why the dot purge was removed from cloak and turned into a dot suppression thing. I mean , with the way thing work right now , reverting it to a purge would be fastest and most efficient solution to have this skill behave like its supposed to.

I mean this may be because i don't play a dot based build on any of my characters , but i do not see the impact of having a dot purge instead of a suppression effect that does not work properly , most probably due to how it clashes with the mechanics of other skills.

I agree. The DoT purge was strong yes but its what made the ability function. Half the dots i should be surpressing are breaking cloak it seems.

Instead of removing the purge they could of made it so status effects and debuffs were not purged (armour/healing debuffs etc). Just remove DoTs.

Its whatever at this point. I make it work but its still pretty janky.

Its not like bringing back DoT purge would be op considering how many more abilitys crush cloak users. (Mage Light, Expert Hunter, Hurricane. Every aoe in game. Piercing Mark. Caltrops. Detect pots.)

Channels, gap closers, ultimates, vigor even though you can cast shields from stealth and basically anything mage guard casts.

Bring back the purge, it's currently making magplar op. Why not balance it a little more, give dragon blood a purge and leave sorcs to spam their shields.

Jaronking

@ZOS_GinaBruno can we get a update on this am sure many of us would be willing to post videos of all the things that break cloaks on the live version of the game.

visionality

Cloak definitely needs to be repaired, but regarding the months that have passed without any fix, I don't really believe the future will bring one. Obviously NBs are low-interest for Zenimax.

Imagine sorc shields wouldn't shield in 50% of all cases or BoL wouldn't heal on every second cast while still sucking away the full costs of the cast. Would that be so thoroughly ignored by Zenimax too?