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  • Mureel
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    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.
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  • Cronopoly
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Same issue for me. I was practicing VMA and got kicked from server. Contacted customer support, they said I violated rules (hacking) and suspended the account for 72 hours. Luckly for me I'm recording all my runs, so no one can blame in cheating unlike some real hackers we have on leaderboards for weeks now. I'm so pissed now and I feel like if they are not fixing this nonsense in the nearest hours, I'm gonna rage cancel my subscription forever >.>

    While this has occurred before in different games, I hope their anti-hack program isn't detecting video recording software as cheat software on your pc. That would suck. Who knows at this point. Like you said, your video's speak for themselves in VMA. "Skill & Practice", not cheating.

    I suppose Basketballs Stephan Curry in the US should be banned from the NBA because his 3 point shooting looks too good to be true, by this standard, of course....
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  • Mureel
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    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.

    I guess so. I mean I am not a programmer or whatever and I really don't know enough about any of this to make any educated opinion. What you say makes sense, though.

    Oh also, I really was just running like normal, hit Twisting path, run into tent, stab, repeat. FPS dropped but I didn;t have any very very low FPS or huge lag, so I don't know really.
    Edited by Mureel on June 25, 2016 12:13AM
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  • Mureel
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    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.
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    Edited by Mureel on June 25, 2016 12:12AM
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  • Egonieser
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    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.

    Combine something like that with expedition potions and/or speed boosts, voila - you got a "speedhacker".
    Wonder what is the real amount of these "legit" suspensions because not everyone posts on forums.
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  • BFT88
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    Still no update lol.
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  • Mureel
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    BFT88 wrote: »
    Still no update lol.

    Probably not for at least 12-13 hours till east coast USA Saturday working hours.

    I also hope they really do not consider this thread discussing discp. stuff since none of us knew before but I've screenshot the whole thing in case.
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  • andy_s
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.

    I guess so. I mean I am not a programmer or whatever and I really don't know enough about any of this to make any educated opinion. What you say makes sense, though.

    Oh also, I really was just running like normal, hit Twisting path, run into tent, stab, repeat. FPS dropped but I didn;t have any very very low FPS or huge lag, so I don't know really.

    interesting, now I'm becoming more sure how this new "anti cheat" program works, because I was on my nb too, using refreshing path and sprinting, then got fps drops/lag and kicked from server. Speedhacker confirmed, AI wins.
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  • SirAndy
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Probably not for at least 12-13 hours till east coast USA Saturday working hours.
    They don't work on Saturdays. Gotta wait until Monday morning.

    I've made it a rule a long time ago to never ever push any server updates live on a Friday.

    "Hey, lets put this update out there and then everyone go home for two days. What could possibly go wrong?"
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  • Egonieser
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...

    IDK if it is that this time or something else....but something is wrong.

    Well lag was mentioned and when lag happens people repeat actions because they don't work right away due to latency thus making the server consider it spam. Same can apply if said lag happens while you're running fast. Since the server is laggy and the one being slow it considers you faster than normal.

    I guess so. I mean I am not a programmer or whatever and I really don't know enough about any of this to make any educated opinion. What you say makes sense, though.

    Oh also, I really was just running like normal, hit Twisting path, run into tent, stab, repeat. FPS dropped but I didn;t have any very very low FPS or huge lag, so I don't know really.

    interesting, now I'm becoming more sure how this new "anti cheat" program works, because I was on my nb too, using refreshing path and sprinting, then got fps drops/lag and kicked from server. Speedhacker confirmed, AI wins.

    Guess we cheated the system lol xD
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  • CrazyDevil
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    Account Suspended
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  • Makkir
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    Wow that's a lot of people ...

    Cyrodiil might actually be playable this weekend ;)
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  • Egonieser
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    Makkir wrote: »
    Wow that's a lot of people ...

    Cyrodiil might actually be playable this weekend ;)

    Ha... Ha...
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    Egowen - v16 Dunmer Whipping Expert (Riding crops eluded her)
    (Yes, I had to grind all these to v16)
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  • Mureel
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    CrazyDevil wrote: »
    Account Suspended

    Smh. :-(
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  • Apocalypse1981
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    Its prob the brits!!!!
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  • LegacyDM
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    Probably not for at least 12-13 hours till east coast USA Saturday working hours.
    They don't work on Saturdays. Gotta wait until Monday morning.

    I've made it a rule a long time ago to never ever push any server updates live on a Friday.

    "Hey, lets put this update out there and then everyone go home for two days. What could possibly go wrong?"
    rolleyes.gif

    If they were smart or cared about their player base they would recall people in and pay them overtime or swap a working day for compensation. This is unacceptable. Why on earth would they install an anti cheat program on production servers without fully testing it on dev first. Who's in charge? If I were you guys I'd start tagging that person...
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  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Its prob the brits!!!!

    No longer allowed to use the EU server? I feared as much :(
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  • Egonieser
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    Its prob the brits!!!!

    No longer allowed to use the EU server? I feared as much :(

    Wanted to mention that too, didn't know if it was appropriate though xD
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    Egonieser - v16 Nord Stamina Dragonborn Wannabe
    Endoly - v16 Tiny Redguard Sharpened MaceBlade
    Egosalina - v16 Breton Cheesus Beam Specialist
    Egowen - v16 Dunmer Whipping Expert (Riding crops eluded her)
    (Yes, I had to grind all these to v16)
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  • BFT88
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    That slap in the face when a forum moderator says they'll look into something and 5+ hours later we still haven't even gotten an acknowledgement.
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  • Jaronking
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    So actual cheaters aside it seems their anti-cheat program cannot tell the difference between a speed hack and lag? Interesting...
    Dam if this the case most PVPers will be banned before the weekend is over because of this.
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  • Durnik
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    Unable to log in. has been happening quite a bit this evening...
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  • Durnik
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    PC, x64, NA server
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Makkir wrote: »
    Wow that's a lot of people ...

    Cyrodiil might actually be playable this weekend ;)

    Actually it is refreshingly cheater free tonight . Huge battles and no crash . lol
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  • johu31
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    Wow I hope you all get some sort of compensation. It's BS.
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  • Durnik
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    may be issues with Frontier/Verizon... I hate them..
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  • Durnik
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    Connected to my backup internet (at&t) and I'm fine...
    Verizon/Frontier is having a bit of a problem... http://downdetector.com/status/frontier
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  • Xylphan
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    Probably not for at least 12-13 hours till east coast USA Saturday working hours.
    They don't work on Saturdays. Gotta wait until Monday morning.

    I've made it a rule a long time ago to never ever push any server updates live on a Friday.

    "Hey, lets put this update out there and then everyone go home for two days. What could possibly go wrong?"
    rolleyes.gif

    Ranks right up there with "It was only a couple lines of code. We don't need to test it."
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  • JamieAubrey
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    I have the same Account Suspended

    Also got an email saying I was banned for 72 hours for Speedhacking :open_mouth:

    I've never even cheated/hacked a game in my life and I wouldn't do it in ESO and risk losing 2+ years of progress just to get an extra bit of speed

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  • hamgatan
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    I also am showing up as suspended. The account portal says for speedhacking.

    I've had a broken right ring finger for the past few days and been in a splint and haven't been on. Go figure.

    Edited by hamgatan on June 25, 2016 7:57AM
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