How to increase provisioning skillset?

Lysette

I guess about 2/3 of my guild bank storage is occupied by those 4 recipes each, which I will need for my new characters with additional character slots. I kept 4 each - and those are plenty. And nearly 40 slots for motifs, hm, I guess I should buy those slots rather sooner than later, this will free a lot of guild bank space.

Ah, as a hint where to find recipes, open a lot of chests, there are often recipes in them - in those, without a lock. in Daggerfall a good spot is the first house, where you enter the world at level 3 - that chest left of the fireplace and the cabinet left of that chest have often recipes and alliance motifs.

Lysette

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

With provisioning ZOS did the overkill really - there are so many recipes, it is insane.

Understandable.. is there such a recipe that will boost weapon damages and DPS? Just food for thought..

I have not seen all recipes yet - but in general the pattern is like that - food adds attribute points temporarily and beverage strengthens your regeneration of those. You can just use one or the other, not both. I use normally food over beverages, because they effect as well my weapon damage indirectly. I do not think that there are some for dps - I personally do not need better dps - I use a bow and launch it with poison injection skill - my enemies are dead before they get near to me - so for what would I need more dps?

GreenhaloX

SantieClaws wrote: »

Khajiit guide to edibility:

In a bin - Great the food it is free!

Green - Excellent. Green food is healthy yes?

Dish of the Day at the Rosy Lion - Proceed with caution ...

Smells bad - Ah the charming scent of the street! So alluring to a hungry khajiit.

Handled by an elf - Yuck. Never! Khajiit would not stoop so low! You insult this one by even offering.


Yours with provisioning paws
Santie Claws

Good to know Khajiit does eat elfs. Lol!

GreenhaloX

xilfxlegion wrote: »

if you are on xbox live na --- message me on live --- i have about 400 recipes --- i'll send you one that you can use to level up quick.

I'm on PSN.. no worries, thanks though. With all the good feedbacks and tips, I believe I know where to start to get leveling up.

SolarCat02

I leveled NY provisioning early, but my method will still work for you.

1. Go to the starter town for your character, the one you end up in directly after the tutorial in Coldharbor.
2. Find a building with lots of crates. Doesn't matter if it will be stealing.
3. Raid that building and take everything! All ingredients, all recipes, armor, knickknacks, etc.
4. Learn all the recipes you find that you didn't have yet.
5. Cook everything you can, higher level recipes first.
6. Deconstruct the armor you have stolen.
7. Sell the things you cooked (that you don't want).
8. Go to outlaw refuge (loading screen to reset everything) and sell/launder the knickknacks.
9. Return and do it again.

For AD, this building was the bank (which also has cooking fires), so I would run an endless loop leveling my cooking, legerdemain, and armor crafting.

EDIT to add, the recipes scale to the level of the area, so you will need to be in the starter areas to find the lower level recipes.

Lysette

SolarCat02 wrote: »

I leveled NY provisioning early, but my method will still work for you.

1. Go to the starter town for your character, the one you end up in directly after the tutorial in Coldharbor.
2. Find a building with lots of crates. Doesn't matter if it will be stealing.
3. Raid that building and take everything! All ingredients, all recipes, armor, knickknacks, etc.
4. Learn all the recipes you find that you didn't have yet.
5. Cook everything you can, higher level recipes first.
6. Deconstruct the armor you have stolen.
7. Sell the things you cooked (that you don't want).
8. Go to outlaw refuge (loading screen to reset everything) and sell/launder the knickknacks.
9. Return and do it again.

For AD, this building was the bank (which also has cooking fires), so I would run an endless loop leveling my cooking, legerdemain, and armor crafting.

EDIT to add, the recipes scale to the level of the area, so you will need to be in the starter areas to find the lower level recipes.

Hm, and purple recipes in AD are then where - Grahtwood?

GreenhaloX

Lysette wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

With provisioning ZOS did the overkill really - there are so many recipes, it is insane.

Understandable.. is there such a recipe that will boost weapon damages and DPS? Just food for thought..

I have not seen all recipes yet - but in general the pattern is like that - food adds attribute points temporarily and beverage strengthens your regeneration of those. You can just use one or the other, not both. I use normally food over beverages, because they effect as well my weapon damage indirectly. I do not think that there are some for dps - I personally do not need better dps - I use a bow and launch it with poison injection skill - my enemies are dead before they get near to me - so for what would I need more dps?

I'm with you.. I use my bow mainly for the big bosses fight cause I'm still trying to build up my impen traits and other defense factors. So, it works for me, most of the time to strike from a distance.. for now. Other than the big bosses, yes, my bow can also take out the normal enemies, even at V16, fairly quickly. However, my weapon damage stat is currently around 3000, but I have read posting of those claiming to have their stat at 5000 or more. I even have a post that someone with a flawless conquerer title taking out a mammoth and giants with only a few attacks as well as taking on Wrothgar's world bosses almost by him or herself. His or her weapon must have weapon damages stat to the roof. I can't do the math, though, to see what sets or combo they are using to get that high stat. I figure maybe they are augmenting with some kind of provisioning that would offer increases in weapon damage/dps much as for health, stam and majicka.

Lysette

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

With provisioning ZOS did the overkill really - there are so many recipes, it is insane.

Understandable.. is there such a recipe that will boost weapon damages and DPS? Just food for thought..

I have not seen all recipes yet - but in general the pattern is like that - food adds attribute points temporarily and beverage strengthens your regeneration of those. You can just use one or the other, not both. I use normally food over beverages, because they effect as well my weapon damage indirectly. I do not think that there are some for dps - I personally do not need better dps - I use a bow and launch it with poison injection skill - my enemies are dead before they get near to me - so for what would I need more dps?

I'm with you.. I use my bow mainly for the big bosses fight cause I'm still trying to build up my impen traits and other defense factors. So, it works for me, most of the time to strike from a distance.. for now. Other than the big bosses, yes, my bow can also take out the normal enemies, even at V16, fairly quickly. However, my weapon damage stat is currently around 3000, but I have read posting of those claiming to have their stat at 5000 or more. I even have a post that someone with a flawless conquerer title taking out a mammoth and giants with only a few attacks as well as taking on Wrothgar's world bosses almost by him or herself. His or her weapon must have weapon damages stat to the roof. I can't do the math, though, to see what sets or combo they are using to get that high stat. I figure maybe they are augmenting with some kind of provisioning that would offer increases in weapon damage/dps much as for health, stam and majicka.

What I found is that food and beverages are scaled in the moment they are applied, but not when they are already applied. For example when I eat something in a lower level zone and go to a DLC area, the benefit from food is low, because it is not rescaled. But it goes the other way round as well, if I eat it in a DLC area, and go back to a normal zone, my stats go down, but not the benefit from food - and this can make a huge difference for me - as I am still lower level. I think it is a feature, with the logic, that it's effects happen when you eat it and last from there for the rest of the time - but who knows.

Zerok

SolarCat02 wrote: »

For AD, this building was the bank (which also has cooking fires), so I would run an endless loop leveling my cooking, legerdemain, and armor crafting.

There are big warehouses near the docks where you can get a lot of provisioning ingredients with minimal risk.

aldriq

Have they introduced new recipes in any of the DLCs?

Lysette

Zerok wrote: »

SolarCat02 wrote: »

For AD, this building was the bank (which also has cooking fires), so I would run an endless loop leveling my cooking, legerdemain, and armor crafting.

There are big warehouses near the docks where you can get a lot of provisioning ingredients with minimal risk.

Or head out of the town to the north - there is a warehouse after you passed the big crossing with a lot of stuff as well - on the east side of the road.

Pomaikai

I cannot stress this enough, do NOT go past 2/2 recipe improvement until you've gotten all of the blue and purple writ reward recipes! Everyone else does, and so those recipes are the rarest and most expensive recipes in the entire game. If you don't, you'll end up paying 2-20k each for them later. Also make sure that you steal from every type of container in your first couple of starting cities to find the ultra rare green recipes that they contain. Again, your bank account will thank you in the end.

I wish someone had given me this information when I first started provisioning. It would have saved me a good 100K getting all of the recipes in the game at the end.

GreenhaloX

SolarCat02 wrote: »

I leveled NY provisioning early, but my method will still work for you.

1. Go to the starter town for your character, the one you end up in directly after the tutorial in Coldharbor.
2. Find a building with lots of crates. Doesn't matter if it will be stealing.
3. Raid that building and take everything! All ingredients, all recipes, armor, knickknacks, etc.
4. Learn all the recipes you find that you didn't have yet.
5. Cook everything you can, higher level recipes first.
6. Deconstruct the armor you have stolen.
7. Sell the things you cooked (that you don't want).
8. Go to outlaw refuge (loading screen to reset everything) and sell/launder the knickknacks.
9. Return and do it again.

For AD, this building was the bank (which also has cooking fires), so I would run an endless loop leveling my cooking, legerdemain, and armor crafting.

EDIT to add, the recipes scale to the level of the area, so you will need to be in the starter areas to find the lower level recipes.

Cool.. thanks for the tips. Looks like I will need to start in Stonefall or Deshaan with lvl 1 recipes.

Lysette

in DC the warehouse in Aldcroft is a good source for some ingredients.

xilfxlegion

aldriq wrote: »

Have they introduced new recipes in any of the DLCs?

just the orsinium dlc.

xilfxlegion

Pomaikai wrote: »

I cannot stress this enough, do NOT go past 2/2 recipe improvement until you've gotten all of the blue and purple writ reward recipes! Everyone else does, and so those recipes are the rarest and most expensive recipes in the entire game. If you don't, you'll end up paying 2-20k each for them later. Also make sure that you steal from every type of container in your first couple of starting cities to find the ultra rare green recipes that they contain. Again, your bank account will thank you in the end.

I wish someone had given me this information when I first started provisioning. It would have saved me a good 100K getting all of the recipes in the game at the end.

hey hey hey dammit. those rare blue recipes are my main source of income. stop costing me gold lol

Lysette

Stonefalls is where you will find what you need then.

Lysette

A hint for convenient crafting - get ESO+, this crafting bag makes life so much better, it is insane how well it works and how much space it saves in inventory and banks. And it holds as well the many baits for fishing.

JKorr

Food and drink boosts your personal stats.

If you want weapon or spell damage and increased crit, you need alchemy.

http://tamrieljournal.com/list-of-useful-potions-and-alchemy-reagents-in-eso/

Now they've add poisons, so there are a lot of interesting things you can do....

Lysette

Pomaikai wrote: »

I cannot stress this enough, do NOT go past 2/2 recipe improvement until you've gotten all of the blue and purple writ reward recipes! Everyone else does, and so those recipes are the rarest and most expensive recipes in the entire game. If you don't, you'll end up paying 2-20k each for them later. Also make sure that you steal from every type of container in your first couple of starting cities to find the ultra rare green recipes that they contain. Again, your bank account will thank you in the end.

I wish someone had given me this information when I first started provisioning. It would have saved me a good 100K getting all of the recipes in the game at the end.

I have not found any purple recipe yet - do I have to upgrade to recipe quality 3 to get them or was I just out of luck?-

Edit: ah well, I forgot, they scale to the zone - so I have to go to a higher zone and look there - sorry.

lardvader

GreenhaloX wrote: »

@Lysette, yes, but all my recipes I found are requiring recipe improvement 5 or 6. I have the meat and ingredients, but I can't cook any of the those, due to the higher requirements. I think I'm still at lvl 1 for provisioning. I had not figured before to put in any efforts towards provisioning until recently.

There are tons of recipes in the guild stores that is very cheap. Buy some for your current level in provisioning that you have the resources to make and just make a ton of it. When you level up you can start making better ones etc.

I got 8 characters maxed out in prov. and it takes less than an hour for each with some mats at disposial.

Btw. no need to make purple or blue food - only green recipes to level up.

Lysette

blue is a lot faster though - and you need them anyway. That one point is well spent for recipe quality 2.

lardvader

Lysette wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

I cannot stress this enough, do NOT go past 2/2 recipe improvement until you've gotten all of the blue and purple writ reward recipes! Everyone else does, and so those recipes are the rarest and most expensive recipes in the entire game. If you don't, you'll end up paying 2-20k each for them later. Also make sure that you steal from every type of container in your first couple of starting cities to find the ultra rare green recipes that they contain. Again, your bank account will thank you in the end.

I wish someone had given me this information when I first started provisioning. It would have saved me a good 100K getting all of the recipes in the game at the end.

I have not found any purple recipe yet - do I have to upgrade to recipe quality 3 to get them or was I just out of luck?-

Edit: ah well, I forgot, they scale to the zone - so I have to go to a higher zone and look there - sorry.

Well there is some truth to what Lysette is saying.

However what I do to earn different levels of receipes is to have all my characters to do writs at different levels. I almost have every single recipe in the game with this method and that is also a way to earn the purple ones. They are rare but drops from the writs every now and then. I sell aprox. one / two purple recipe every week (if I do writs on all 8 chars). And you don't have to upgrade quality to get OR learn the purple ones. You just can't craft them if you don't have the right level to do it.

SpAEkus

@Lysette , @xilfxlegion

Where are you seeing more IP for crafting Blue and Purple recipes. It hasn't been like that since I have been playing and it isn't that way as of a few minutes ago on Live DB.

I just ran my non-provisioning Alt to see if something has changed and it hasn't.

On L20 Character with L1 provisioning and 1/1 Quality/Improvement - IP shown from Lootdrop and Harven's XP Notify addons. ESO+ but no CP added.

L15 1/1 Green recipe Stuffed Grape Leaves - 4950 IP
L15 2/1 Blue recipe Pumpkin Corn Fritter - 4950 IP

L20 2/2 Green recipe Ginkgo Twist Tonic - 6600 IP
L20 2/2 Blue Recipe Dibella's Kiss - 6600 IP
L20 3/2 Purple Recipe Greef - 6600 IP

If you are actually getting different IP from Blue and Purple recipes please let us know which ones.

Unless some other data, the fastest Povisioning Leveling is still:

For Provisioning you only need 4 Green recipes, one each at L15-L25-L35-L45 (food/bev level made).
Just make 96/78/92/128 (87/70/84/115 if +PLUS subscribed) of each level.

Lysette

SpAEkus wrote: »

@Lysette , @xilfxlegion

Where are you seeing more IP for crafting Blue and Purple recipes. It hasn't been like that since I have been playing and it isn't that way as of a few minutes ago on Live DB.

I just ran my non-provisioning Alt to see if something has changed and it hasn't.

On L20 Character with L1 provisioning and 1/1 Quality/Improvement - IP shown from Lootdrop and Harven's XP Notify addons. ESO+ but no CP added.

L15 1/1 Green recipe Stuffed Grape Leaves - 4950 IP
L15 2/1 Blue recipe Pumpkin Corn Fritter - 4950 IP

L20 2/2 Green recipe Ginkgo Twist Tonic - 6600 IP
L20 2/2 Blue Recipe Dibella's Kiss - 6600 IP
L20 3/2 Purple Recipe Greef - 6600 IP

If you are actually getting different IP from Blue and Purple recipes please let us know which ones.

Unless some other data, the fastest Povisioning Leveling is still:

For Provisioning you only need 4 recipes, one each at L15-L25-L35-L45 (food/bev level made).
Just make 96/78/92/128 (87/70/84/115 if +PLUS subscribed) of each level.

Ah ok, I do not have such an add-on, it seemed to me faster - but maybe that is, because I did all the last levels of provisioning with just blue ones and it increased rather quickly. So this was basically a wrong perception, they are equally good. Sorry for the inconvenience I caused to you, to have to test it.

SpAEkus

Ok,

Just want to save new players from wasting extra mats when leveling that they could save for when they can actually craft better recipes for use in combat.

Lysette

Awesome really, I just wanted to help in ths thread and now I have learnt a lot more about this profession, which I did not know before. Thank you all.

xilfxlegion

SpAEkus wrote: »

@Lysette , @xilfxlegion

Where are you seeing more IP for crafting Blue and Purple recipes. It hasn't been like that since I have been playing and it isn't that way as of a few minutes ago on Live DB.

I just ran my non-provisioning Alt to see if something has changed and it hasn't.

On L20 Character with L1 provisioning and 1/1 Quality/Improvement - IP shown from Lootdrop and Harven's XP Notify addons. ESO+ but no CP added.

L15 1/1 Green recipe Stuffed Grape Leaves - 4950 IP
L15 2/1 Blue recipe Pumpkin Corn Fritter - 4950 IP

L20 2/2 Green recipe Ginkgo Twist Tonic - 6600 IP
L20 2/2 Blue Recipe Dibella's Kiss - 6600 IP
L20 3/2 Purple Recipe Greef - 6600 IP

If you are actually getting different IP from Blue and Purple recipes please let us know which ones.

Unless some other data, the fastest Povisioning Leveling is still:

For Provisioning you only need 4 Green recipes, one each at L15-L25-L35-L45 (food/bev level made).
Just make 96/78/92/128 (87/70/84/115 if +PLUS subscribed) of each level.

im just going by memory. i was using a green recipe and then i switched to a blue and the xp bar went up a lot more under
the blue. to be fair, this was about 11 months ago and i am old, so i could be off

Lysette

xilfxlegion wrote: »

SpAEkus wrote: »

@Lysette , @xilfxlegion

Where are you seeing more IP for crafting Blue and Purple recipes. It hasn't been like that since I have been playing and it isn't that way as of a few minutes ago on Live DB.

I just ran my non-provisioning Alt to see if something has changed and it hasn't.

On L20 Character with L1 provisioning and 1/1 Quality/Improvement - IP shown from Lootdrop and Harven's XP Notify addons. ESO+ but no CP added.

L15 1/1 Green recipe Stuffed Grape Leaves - 4950 IP
L15 2/1 Blue recipe Pumpkin Corn Fritter - 4950 IP

L20 2/2 Green recipe Ginkgo Twist Tonic - 6600 IP
L20 2/2 Blue Recipe Dibella's Kiss - 6600 IP
L20 3/2 Purple Recipe Greef - 6600 IP

If you are actually getting different IP from Blue and Purple recipes please let us know which ones.

Unless some other data, the fastest Povisioning Leveling is still:

For Provisioning you only need 4 Green recipes, one each at L15-L25-L35-L45 (food/bev level made).
Just make 96/78/92/128 (87/70/84/115 if +PLUS subscribed) of each level.

im just going by memory. i was using a green recipe and then i switched to a blue and the xp bar went up a lot more under
the blue. to be fair, this was about 11 months ago and i am old, so i could be off

That is how I experienced it as well, but we have the actual numbers now, so it was misleading perception.

Elsonso

Lysette wrote: »

With provisioning ZOS did the overkill really - there are so many recipes, it is insane.

This is one of the great things about provisioning in this game. While the number of recipes seems insane, the variety is awesome. It makes me feel like I am doing something different from the rest of you, which is very rare in this game.

On NA, you can easily pick up green recipes for under 20 gold each, if you look. Never pass up a browse at a guild trader, especially the ones out in the middle of nowhere that you just come across. There is one in rural Stormhaven today that I see is selling over 100 green recipes for anywhere from 15 to 100 gold each.

Leveling provisioning is dead easy, if you want to legitimately shortcut the process. If you are in the right guild, sometimes an expert provisioner can tell you what recipes to use and how many of each food to make in order to level to 50 in a matter of minutes. Of course, you need all the materials and recipes, and the skill points, to get it done that fast. It is just a matter of knowing how much inspiration is obtained from crafting each food along with how many are needed for each skill tier.