Can confirm Jace's scores are legit, unlisted videos but in all fairness he's got some pretty cool strategies, mainly kill order. Dont know if you take my word for it, but I agree.Well, rip eso I guess. But regarding current pve leaderboards, I'm sceptic about any scores without video proofs. In all other games speed runs must be proven by videos. All these "secret tactics" and exploits is bs.
Can confirm Jace's scores are legit, unlisted videos but in all fairness he's got some pretty cool strategies, mainly kill order. Dont know if you take my word for it, but I agree.Well, rip eso I guess. But regarding current pve leaderboards, I'm sceptic about any scores without video proofs. In all other games speed runs must be proven by videos. All these "secret tactics" and exploits is bs.
I don't think public shaming is the answer because THAT'S the attention they want.
They want to grab a scroll, see there name across the screen and feel good about themselves due to attention, negative or otherwise.
However, they should absolutely not be allowed in game, especially the ones who've already been banned.
This game is our hobby but for some of us, our livelihood. A golf course wouldn't let someone come on the course with bionic arms and let me them scream, run around all of the course with no repercussions. This is the same thing, ban and move on. Don't reward them with attention, because mommy sure didn't.
outsideworld76 wrote: »If only my wings would bounce meteor.... this would not be a problem.
I don't think public shaming is the answer because THAT'S the attention they want.
They want to grab a scroll, see there name across the screen and feel good about themselves due to attention, negative or otherwise.
However, they should absolutely not be allowed in game, especially the ones who've already been banned.
This game is our hobby but for some of us, our livelihood. A golf course wouldn't let someone come on the course with bionic arms and let me them scream, run around all of the course with no repercussions. This is the same thing, ban and move on. Don't reward them with attention, because mommy sure didn't.
Anyone who agrees with anyone who's saying they're doing this to prove a point to others - no. That's no excuse to use third party software to ruin everyone else's game.
These people need kicking from the game permanently.
Anyone who agrees with anyone who's saying they're doing this to prove a point to others - no. That's no excuse to use third party software to ruin everyone else's game.
These people need kicking from the game permanently.
outsideworld76 wrote: »If only my wings would bounce meteor.... this would not be a problem.
Anyone who agrees with anyone who's saying they're doing this to prove a point to others - no. That's no excuse to use third party software to ruin everyone else's game.
These people need kicking from the game permanently.
Anyone who agrees with anyone who's saying they're doing this to prove a point to others - no. That's no excuse to use third party software to ruin everyone else's game.
These people need kicking from the game permanently.
Whilst normally I'd agree but the 2 guys willingly came onto Fengrush's stream to show everybody what can be done and to seriously highlight issues.
I too hope they have the power to remove people from the leaderboards instead of just resetting them. If I were in your situation I'd be incredibly angry and wouldn't bother anymore if something like this gets allowed. It would be nice to hold #1 until the next major update etc. As in my signatureIts just unfair. Someone such as myself who has held number 1 vma Sorcerer and Nightblade 100% legitimately feels that the people who have used exploits to get those scores must be penalized in some way. I have put tons of time and effort into getting the scores I have gotten and holding number 1 and for someone to come in out of nowhere and use exploits just completely ruins the idea of competition and top scores. It disgusts me. It truly is unfair.
I too hope they have the power to remove people from the leaderboards instead of just resetting them. If I were in your situation I'd be incredibly angry and wouldn't bother anymore if something like this gets allowed. It would be nice to hold #1 until the next major update etc. As in my signatureIts just unfair. Someone such as myself who has held number 1 vma Sorcerer and Nightblade 100% legitimately feels that the people who have used exploits to get those scores must be penalized in some way. I have put tons of time and effort into getting the scores I have gotten and holding number 1 and for someone to come in out of nowhere and use exploits just completely ruins the idea of competition and top scores. It disgusts me. It truly is unfair.
I'm also going to be angry if a group of people exploit this in Maw of Lorkhaj to get a skin they don't deserve and bypass the learning process that others put so much time in to.
But from what I'm seeing, this is mainly breeding from PvP players, I'm proud of you PvE players and guilds who are not exploiting scores and leaving it mainly up to the PvP community to do so. Good to see where the toxicity forms from
I too hope they have the power to remove people from the leaderboards instead of just resetting them. If I were in your situation I'd be incredibly angry and wouldn't bother anymore if something like this gets allowed. It would be nice to hold #1 until the next major update etc. As in my signatureIts just unfair. Someone such as myself who has held number 1 vma Sorcerer and Nightblade 100% legitimately feels that the people who have used exploits to get those scores must be penalized in some way. I have put tons of time and effort into getting the scores I have gotten and holding number 1 and for someone to come in out of nowhere and use exploits just completely ruins the idea of competition and top scores. It disgusts me. It truly is unfair.
I'm also going to be angry if a group of people exploit this in Maw of Lorkhaj to get a skin they don't deserve and bypass the learning process that others put so much time in to.
But from what I'm seeing, this is mainly breeding from PvP players, I'm proud of you PvE players and guilds who are not exploiting scores and leaving it mainly up to the PvP community to do so. Good to see where the toxicity forms from
Have you seen the PVE leaderboards??
Dont talk nonsense its widespread in pve and pvp
I assume that you guys have done what you can in-game to deal with the cheaters, i.e. you're in touch with their guilds, sent your videos to their guildmasters etc, rather than just heaping all your frustrations and vitriol on ZOS?
I don't doubt that they're doing their best to deal with a difficult situation, the forum staff just enforce the forum rules which are quite rightly designed to protect the innocent from the kind of malicious complaints that can arise from competitive gameplay while different staff deal with the disciplinary issues. The fact that this whole explosion of protest has occurred over a public holiday weekend doubtless doesn't make it any easier for them as they are very likely on a skeleton staff.
I'm not defending exploiters, while I don't play competitively and they don't therefore impact on me I do consider them scum and have long campaigned in many MMOs for "bans" to mean "bans" and not "suspensions". I just think the cheaters should be dealt with as far as is possible through their guilds (and yes, report the whole guild if they're all in it), not just by reporting them, while ZOS have now been made more than aware of the scope of the problem and should be cut some slack while they show whether and how they're prepared to deal with it.
Out of interest, is this restricted to one platform/server or is it happening across the board?
I'm in the guild that has #1 in SO, AA, HRC and MoLI too hope they have the power to remove people from the leaderboards instead of just resetting them. If I were in your situation I'd be incredibly angry and wouldn't bother anymore if something like this gets allowed. It would be nice to hold #1 until the next major update etc. As in my signatureIts just unfair. Someone such as myself who has held number 1 vma Sorcerer and Nightblade 100% legitimately feels that the people who have used exploits to get those scores must be penalized in some way. I have put tons of time and effort into getting the scores I have gotten and holding number 1 and for someone to come in out of nowhere and use exploits just completely ruins the idea of competition and top scores. It disgusts me. It truly is unfair.
I'm also going to be angry if a group of people exploit this in Maw of Lorkhaj to get a skin they don't deserve and bypass the learning process that others put so much time in to.
But from what I'm seeing, this is mainly breeding from PvP players, I'm proud of you PvE players and guilds who are not exploiting scores and leaving it mainly up to the PvP community to do so. Good to see where the toxicity forms from
Have you seen the PVE leaderboards??
Dont talk nonsense its widespread in pve and pvp