Please buff Soul Trap damage to double it's current amount.

dsalter · May 2016

3.5k over 10 seconds is pretty pathetic, and would love to see Soultrap being a viable DoT, from my play experience since beta it's been useless.
and giving it double it's damage would hardly break anything since even then it'll be about average for a damage over time anyways but would open up new viable choice for players to use in combat.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Silver_Strider · May 2016

Oblivion's Foe.
Crappy set but probably what's holding back Soul Trap as a half decent DoT.

silky_soft · May 2016

Should prevent from being revived in pvp. Drain magika or stamina too. Make it more exciting.

dsalter · May 2016

silky_soft wrote: »

Should prevent from being revived in pvp. Drain magika or stamina too. Make it more exciting.

could give the magicka and stamina drain to the split soul morph, problem is that would overshadow the % based heal on kills so maybe make the other morph increase nearby enemies damage intake by 8% and spreading basic non-morph soultraps to all nearby targets when the target dies? rename it "soul implosion" instead of lame splitting

Anhedonie · May 2016

Double? LOL
You have to triple its damage to make people at least consider slotting it.

GreenSoup2HoT · May 2016

silky_soft wrote: »

Should prevent from being revived in pvp. Drain magika or stamina too. Make it more exciting.

I wish we had a way to prevent revive's in pvp. Guild War's 2 has it. Just make it a 3 second duration to channel to prevent the revive. This way other players would have to stop you if they want to revive a buddy.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · May 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Oblivion's Foe.
Crappy set but probably what's holding back Soul Trap as a half decent DoT.

Oblivion's Foe is not a set worth anything it's a 8 trait crafted that only works on one power. A five piece bonus should be good an eight trait bonus should be great this set is on par with any other sets/builds.

PainfulFAFA · May 2016

Soul Magic needs alot more love. It sucks! Why do i even want that tree?

Vaoh · May 2016

Buff Soul Trap 2016

(I'm serious)

Silver_Strider · May 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Oblivion's Foe.
Crappy set but probably what's holding back Soul Trap as a half decent DoT.

Oblivion's Foe is not a set worth anything it's a 8 trait crafted that only works on one power. A five piece bonus should be good an eight trait bonus should be great this set is on par with any other sets/builds.

Not saying it's a good set, just stating that it's probably the reason why Soul Trap is being held back but still, Oblivion's Foe is probably the worst craftable set in the game, bar none.

Ankael07 · May 2016

a potential necromancer theme that many people want lies in soul trap tree but who knows why they refuse to make one

WhiteNoiseMaker · May 2016

I'd definitely agree that the Oblivion's Foe should synergize more with the Soul Magic skill tree. Hell, double the Ultimate's and Passives' damage for wearing that particular set, and beef up the Soul Trap Skill while you're at it. It's such a sad unloved tree, and the set just doesn't match the worth of other 8-trait crafted sets. :-(

code65536 · May 2016

I use it only if I have soul gems to fill.

That said, the Consuming morph that restores 10% of all three of your mains stats is actually very interesting. When dealing with trash pulls, tossing Consuming into the pack now and then could help substantially with sustain.

Solariken · May 2016

Agree, it needs a massive boost. That skill is garbage.

dsalter · May 2016

code65536 wrote: »

I use it only if I have soul gems to fill.

That said, the Consuming morph that restores 10% of all three of your mains stats is actually very interesting. When dealing with trash pulls, tossing Consuming into the pack now and then could help substantially with sustain.

hence why i feel this mirph doesnt need a chance, but the damage defo needs a boost else it's a handycap since it's a kill dependant "heal" that requires the enemy doesn't use purges and that you sacrifice a slot to be ready for a kill restore

Digiman · May 2016

Would be nice if they did make it significant, but the games with soul trap didn't do damage in the game either.

Faulgor · May 2016

Digiman wrote: »

Would be nice if they did make it significant, but the games with soul trap didn't do damage in the game either.

Yeah, but soul gems were much more important in those ...
If ZOS would let us trap boss souls for certain rewards, it might be a different story.

Vaoh · May 2016

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul Splitting Trap: Increased DoT duration by 10 seconds.

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Max Health
(3 items) Adds Max Health
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Soul Magic
Increase the damage of Soul Trap abilities by 150% and Soul Strike abilities by 35%. Soul Shatter damage increased by 500%.

****Soul Shatter is the passive, NOT the morph of Soul Strike, Shatter Soul!

dsalter · May 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

soul splitting is terrible tho, much better off using it as a debuff morph

Vaoh · May 2016

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

soul splitting is terrible tho, much better off using it as a debuff morph

Further edited my post. Wasn't sure what to do with that morph. I gave it a longer duration (and therefore damage obviously but the same DPS)

dsalter · May 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

soul splitting is terrible tho, much better off using it as a debuff morph

Further edited my post. Wasn't sure what to do with that morph. I gave it a longer duration (and therefore damage obviously but the same DPS)

i find the best thing for it to stay true with the whole soul trap thing is make it an implosion as earlier stated where any enemies near the afflicted target when it dies gets an 8 second 8 damage intake debuff

Vaoh · May 2016

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

soul splitting is terrible tho, much better off using it as a debuff morph

Further edited my post. Wasn't sure what to do with that morph. I gave it a longer duration (and therefore damage obviously but the same DPS)

i find the best thing for it to stay true with the whole soul trap thing is make it an implosion as earlier stated where any enemies near the afflicted target when it dies gets an 8 second 8 damage intake debuff

Not a bad idea.

I'd love for Soul Trap to just be useful (not only for filling soul gems), an OKAY skill. Completely horrible atm.

With Oblivioun's Foe it should become powerful.

Just my thoughts.

dsalter · May 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

soul splitting is terrible tho, much better off using it as a debuff morph

Further edited my post. Wasn't sure what to do with that morph. I gave it a longer duration (and therefore damage obviously but the same DPS)

i find the best thing for it to stay true with the whole soul trap thing is make it an implosion as earlier stated where any enemies near the afflicted target when it dies gets an 8 second 8 damage intake debuff

Not a bad idea.

I'd love for Soul Trap to just be useful (not only for filling soul gems), an OKAY skill. Completely horrible atm.

With Oblivioun's Foe it should become powerful.

Just my thoughts.

same, thats why i feel soul splitting is just plain awful, giving it utility would score it points in the useful department in both pvp and pve

Birdovic · May 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

Agreeing with most of these changes.
However, the sets 2-4pc bonus also need some changes, its obvious who this set is made for (Magicka).

(2 items) Adds Spelldamage
(3 items) Adds Max Magicka
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery

And for Soul Shatter (passive), they could make it scale from highest stat instead of Max Health, then there wouldnt be such a huge 500% Increase needed, too.

Tooltip Damage was 100 per 1000 Health if I remember correctly.

Oh and maybe decrease Soul Shatter cooldown by 50% or so?

dsalter · May 2016

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

How to buff Soul Magic and Oblivion's Foe:

- Soul Magic -

Soul Strike: No change
• Soul Assault: No change
• Shatter Soul: Increase explosion proc damage by 100%

Soul Trap: Increase damage by 100%
• Consuming Trap: No further change
• Soul-Splitting Trap: No further change

- Oblivion Foe -
(2 items) Adds Health Recovery - No change
(3 items) Adds Stamina Recovery - No change
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery - No change
(5 items) Increase the damage of Soul Trap and its morphs by 100%. Increase the damage of Soul Strike and its morphs by 35%.

Agreeing with most of these changes.
However, the sets 2-4pc bonus also need some changes, its obvious who this set is made for (Magicka).

(2 items) Adds Spelldamage
(3 items) Adds Max Magicka
(4 items) Adds Magicka Recovery

And for Soul Shatter (passive), they could make it scale from highest stat instead of Max Health, then there wouldnt be such a huge 500% Increase needed, too.

Tooltip Damage was 100 per 1000 Health if I remember correctly.

Oh and maybe decrease Soul Shatter cooldown by 50% or so?

i'd rather it be a mix of both,
2 = stam regen
3= magicka regen
4 = spell+wep damage
teh bonus

Birdovic · May 2016

@dsalter

Something like that was my First idea, too.

But as Long everything in this Skill tree is magicka or scales better from Magic Dmg CP, this wont make it very good, and stam players have too many possibilities so they easily can ignore this.

I doubt there will be a "poison assault" Stam morph anytime, too.
So, If The CP-System would atleast allow Hybrids, this Set could be Something, that offers some opportunities for both Stam and magicka,

Like
2pc Health
3pc Magicka rec + Stamina rec
4pc Spelldmg + Weapondmg
"Teh Bonus"

If we had real hybrids, this would make this set truly special and justify the 8 traits requirement.

But, for that to happen, there needs to be
- soft caps again,
- the CP system needs to be gone
- Damage increase from Stat (Stamina/Magicka) needs to be gone

And I doubt anything will happen

Pomaikai · May 2016

If given the right buffs, both this skill line and that armor set could be a whole lot of fun to play. The whole Anti-Paladin theme would be possible, and a blast to play.

Come on ZOS, this is a useless and ignored skill line and armor set. Go nuts! Get wild! Really play around with the whole line; both skills, passives, and its Ultimate. No one will get mad. You won't have mile long threads of players qq'ing that you are destroying their play style and class. Yes. The thread would probably be long, but it will all be about people offering help and suggestions, rather than just screaming at you.

If you can remake and remold this skill line into a fun and balanced thing of beauty, then maybe the other classes would trust you to do the same with their classes as well, and you could really revamp and reboot the combat system in the game.

Birdovic · May 2016

Let's keep in mind there is only 1 active ability next to the ultimate, so there is plenty of space for future abilities.

Maybe with Mephalas Realm Dlc?

staracino_ESO · May 2016

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Let's keep in mind there is only 1 active ability next to the ultimate, so there is plenty of space for future abilities.

Maybe with Mephalas Realm Dlc?

It would be nice if they made that an official 'continuation' of the vestige's journey, complete with more soul magic. I am afraid that their current DLC model will make that impossible though, because they want all DLC to be accessible from level 3.
I kind of want some more story that you have to finish the base game story to unlock.

Birdovic · May 2016

staracino_ESO wrote: »

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Let's keep in mind there is only 1 active ability next to the ultimate, so there is plenty of space for future abilities.

Maybe with Mephalas Realm Dlc?

It would be nice if they made that an official 'continuation' of the vestige's journey, complete with more soul magic. I am afraid that their current DLC model will make that impossible though, because they want all DLC to be accessible from level 3.
I kind of want some more story that you have to finish the base game story to unlock.

Yeah sounds good. They usually bring a "Base Game Patch" and a "DLC Patch" or something, so the base patch could include Soul Magic Rank5-10, which can be reached by doing Anchors and other grindy stuff. And for people who have the DLC, they can allow Soul Magic to lvl faster, with completing the new DLC's story content.

Rilmarshim · May 2016

TBH soul trap in ESO pretty useless. You can get a lot of filled grand soul gems much easier in dungeons or aliance war. As for damage - in previous games soul trap did no damage at all.