How much max stamina do you have?

psychotic13

As above, I'm levelling my first Stam character (got 2 V16 Magicka ones)

just wondering how high people like to have there stamina? I understand it's a lot harder to stack than Magicka because of the limited amount of Passives to increase it compared to Magicka.

I also understand it can be made up for as weapon damage is easier to increase, so what's your weapon damage too?

Just theory crafting doing some maths with the formulas and deciding which gear will be optimal for me, but I want to know what other people think is ok for max stamina and weapon damage

SirAndy

My stam NB has just over 30k without buffs ...

Browiseth

Stam sorc with 36k here. Feels good.

Autolycus

Mine has a little over 38k with food and bound armaments. He's a Breton with no racial stam increases

Septimus_Magna

My Bosmer NB had 32k max stamina with regen drink buff.

And something like 4.2k weapon dmg out of stealth (only self-buffs without 2pc Molag Kena).

What race and class did you pick for your stamina build?

psychotic13

My build is a khajiit NB, can you all clarify your weapon damage to for comparison?

psychotic13

Autolycus wrote: »

Mine has a little over 38k with food and bound armaments. He's a Breton with no racial stam increases

Blue or purple food? And how many set bonuses do you have for stamina?

Autolycus

psychotic13 wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Mine has a little over 38k with food and bound armaments. He's a Breton with no racial stam increases

Blue or purple food? And how many set bonuses do you have for stamina?

Blue vr15 food (stam + health)
5 Hundings (gold)
2 Mephala (purple, awaiting better traits for gold)
3 Agility (WD glyphs)
2 Leki's Daggers (gold, precise)
1 Placeholder bow @vr16 gold (awaiting vMA bow)

psychotic13

Autolycus wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Mine has a little over 38k with food and bound armaments. He's a Breton with no racial stam increases

Blue or purple food? And how many set bonuses do you have for stamina?

Blue vr15 food (stam + health)
5 Hundings (gold)
2 Mephala (purple, awaiting better traits for gold)
3 Agility (WD glyphs)
2 Leki's Daggers (gold, precise)
1 Placeholder bow @vr16 gold (awaiting vMA bow)

I'm guessing all rings robust, all attribute points into stamina and all stamina enchants too?

If that's the case how highs your health? As I've never played endgame stamina before do you need more health?

Autolycus

psychotic13 wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Mine has a little over 38k with food and bound armaments. He's a Breton with no racial stam increases

Blue or purple food? And how many set bonuses do you have for stamina?

Blue vr15 food (stam + health)
5 Hundings (gold)
2 Mephala (purple, awaiting better traits for gold)
3 Agility (WD glyphs)
2 Leki's Daggers (gold, precise)
1 Placeholder bow @vr16 gold (awaiting vMA bow)

I'm guessing all rings robust, all attribute points into stamina and all stamina enchants too?

If that's the case how highs your health? As I've never played endgame stamina before do you need more health?

All of those assumptions are accurate, yes. Max health sits at 17.1k, which is sufficient for pretty much everything. The only thing you might want more health for is vMA, but only until you learn the mechanics (assuming you haven't done it already). I found that using healthy rings was quite useful until really getting a good grasp of the stages.

Vangy

Stamina imperial DK with 501 CP;

Stats: 3.2k weapon damage, 20+% crit, 21k phy resist, 23k spell res (unbuffed)
Resources: 15k mag, 41k stam, 25k health (food buff + cyro health buff)
regen: 900 mag/600+ health/1400 stam

DeanTheCat

The amount of max stamina you'll have is dependent on race/class. However, you are forgetting to ask the most important question. How much health should I have?

Aim for 20k+ health, then dump the rest of your points into Stamina. No use having a 35k+ Stamina pool if you get constantly one shotted.

But anyway, these are my stats:

M/H/S
9.6k/23.7k/35.6k
58.5% CHC
177% CHD
3.4k WD
1.4k Stam Regen
10.9k Armour (Unbuffed)

lassitershawn

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The amount of max stamina you'll have is dependent on race/class. However, you are forgetting to ask the most important question. How much health should I have?

Aim for 20k+ health, then dump the rest of your points into Stamina. No use having a 35k+ Stamina pool if you get constantly one shotted.

But anyway, these are my stats:

M/H/S
9.6k/23.7k/35.6k
58.5% CHC
177% CHD
3.4k WD
1.4k Stam Regen
10.9k Armour (Unbuffed)

I've never had an issue with running 16.8k HP on my magicka sorc for PvE DPS, and an unshielded magicka sorc (shields aren't good for pure PvE DPS) is the squishiest build. In my opinion, 20k+ HP is overkill for a DPS build.

DeanTheCat

lassitershawn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The amount of max stamina you'll have is dependent on race/class. However, you are forgetting to ask the most important question. How much health should I have?

Aim for 20k+ health, then dump the rest of your points into Stamina. No use having a 35k+ Stamina pool if you get constantly one shotted.

But anyway, these are my stats:

M/H/S
9.6k/23.7k/35.6k
58.5% CHC
177% CHD
3.4k WD
1.4k Stam Regen
10.9k Armour (Unbuffed)

I've never had an issue with running 16.8k HP on my magicka sorc for PvE DPS, and an unshielded magicka sorc (shields aren't good for pure PvE DPS) is the squishiest build. In my opinion, 20k+ HP is overkill for a DPS build.

And that's the difference. The OP made a thread a few days ago about archers in PvP, so I assume this is a follow-up to that thread.

By all means, walk into Cyrodiil with 16k HP. I'll thank you for the free 1.8k AP.

lassitershawn

DeanTheCat wrote: »

lassitershawn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The amount of max stamina you'll have is dependent on race/class. However, you are forgetting to ask the most important question. How much health should I have?

Aim for 20k+ health, then dump the rest of your points into Stamina. No use having a 35k+ Stamina pool if you get constantly one shotted.

But anyway, these are my stats:

M/H/S
9.6k/23.7k/35.6k
58.5% CHC
177% CHD
3.4k WD
1.4k Stam Regen
10.9k Armour (Unbuffed)

I've never had an issue with running 16.8k HP on my magicka sorc for PvE DPS, and an unshielded magicka sorc (shields aren't good for pure PvE DPS) is the squishiest build. In my opinion, 20k+ HP is overkill for a DPS build.

And that's the difference. The OP made a thread a few days ago about archers in PvP, so I assume this is a follow-up to that thread.

By all means, walk into Cyrodiil with 16k HP. I'll thank you for the free 1.8k AP.

Ah, OP did not make that very clear. In PvP you really shouldn't have to invest much (if anything at all) into HP to reach 20k. With tristat food and no HP investment I'm above 21k HP in Cyrodiil, on a race without a max HP bonus. With drinks, I guess you would have to invest a bit.

psychotic13

DeanTheCat wrote: »

lassitershawn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The amount of max stamina you'll have is dependent on race/class. However, you are forgetting to ask the most important question. How much health should I have?

Aim for 20k+ health, then dump the rest of your points into Stamina. No use having a 35k+ Stamina pool if you get constantly one shotted.

But anyway, these are my stats:

M/H/S
9.6k/23.7k/35.6k
58.5% CHC
177% CHD
3.4k WD
1.4k Stam Regen
10.9k Armour (Unbuffed)

I've never had an issue with running 16.8k HP on my magicka sorc for PvE DPS, and an unshielded magicka sorc (shields aren't good for pure PvE DPS) is the squishiest build. In my opinion, 20k+ HP is overkill for a DPS build.

And that's the difference. The OP made a thread a few days ago about archers in PvP, so I assume this is a follow-up to that thread.

By all means, walk into Cyrodiil with 16k HP. I'll thank you for the free 1.8k AP.

Yeah this is a follow up thread, I guess I should've mentioned this was PvP oriented.

I'm just looking for numbers to aim for I guess, part of my thinks I should've rolled an imperial instead of khajiit for the big bonuses to health and stamina, but then again I'd lost the crit bonus and stealth damage..

olsborg

My imperial nb has atm: (numbers are ~ due to memory)

25k hp
11k mag
30k stam

1.2k mag regen
3k stam regen

3.3k wep dmg buffed with rally out of stealth.

Brrrofski

Well if it's for pvp.

You need at least 20k hp.

With everything apart fro ma stamina templar, magica is pretty important so I use drinks mostly. With that said, and without undaunted bonuses, you get to like 27k stam being a redguard. I'm trying food on my Dk, but not sure I like 1500 stam regen.

My stamplar has 32 as well as 21k health, 2100 stam regen and 4k weapon damage. Only possible due to the limited use of magica, so I can use the max health and stam regen food and stick all enchantments into stamina.

AllPlayAndNoWork

30k stam. 4.9k weapon damage with Cl Alch (I've had 5.5k). 1800 regeneration 24k health.

psychotic13

So from what I've gathered I want at least 20k HP and 30K stamina, I'll have decent regen anyway using marksman and 1pc bloodspawn so ill do some calculations and see what I come up with, thanks for all the replys.

If I have 30k Stam what kind of weapon damage should I be aiming for?

Brrrofski

psychotic13 wrote: »

So from what I've gathered I want at least 20k HP and 30K stamina, I'll have decent regen anyway using marksman and 1pc bloodspawn so ill do some calculations and see what I come up with, thanks for all the replys.

If I have 30k Stam what kind of weapon damage should I be aiming for?

3.5 - 4k.

Depends on class and if you wanted to run dawnbreaker. Templar and Sorc can get higher weapon damage for instance, and I don't slot dawnbreaker on my Dk because I like leap being on my hardest hitting bar.

psychotic13

I'll be primarily using a bow, so Dawnbreaker will be on the front bar. Plan on having all jewlery with WD enchants, and having WD from Kena and marksman. Not sure which Mundus to use yet I'll see how my stats sit before I decide.

I'm playing khajiit NB.

Need to get the Kena helm though, with the new disease version of Assasins will I really want to try that with proc'd Kena, I think that will do great damage.

MrTarkanian48

How many Champ points do you have? The amount of green CP you have also affects your stats.

((Base+Gear+Attribute Points)*CPI)+Food+Mundus*Divines)*Skills (i.e. racial passives, Undaunted Mettle Passives, Bound Armaments/Sorc, Werewolf)

CPI is (1+relevant CP (in this case green CP)^.56432/100)

Base stam for everyone=7958
66 attributes in stam=7326
Gear= A pretty typical loadout of 5 pc Hundings (967 stam), 1 pc Kena, 1 piece Bloodspawn, 3 Robust Agility (840+840+840+1400), All kuta stam enchants (not infused) (868*3+341*4). So gear is (967+840*3+1400+868*3+341*4)= 8855

CPI: At 501 CP you have 167 green CP. So (1+167^0.56432/100)= 1.1796

Skills: Khajiit has no max Stamina bonus. You're best bet is to level Undaunted to 9 to max the Undaunted Mettle passive and run 5 medium armor, 1 light armor, 1 heavy armor to get a 6% stam bonus. (The ideal would be Heavy chest, Light belt, the rest medium.)

Food: V15 Blue Health and Stam food provides 4454 stamina

So assuming 501 CP, V15 Blue Food, and Undaunted Mettle

Max Stamina: ((7958+7326+8855)*1.796)+4454)*1.06=34,904

psychotic13

MrTarkanian48 wrote: »

How many Champ points do you have? The amount of green CP you have also affects your stats.

((Base+Gear+Attribute Points)*CPI)+Food+Mundus*Divines)*Skills (i.e. racial passives, Undaunted Mettle Passives, Bound Armaments/Sorc, Werewolf)

CPI is (1+relevant CP (in this case green CP)^.56432/100)

Base stam for everyone=7958
66 attributes in stam=7326
Gear= A pretty typical loadout of 5 pc Hundings (967 stam), 1 pc Kena, 1 piece Bloodspawn, 3 Robust Agility (840+840+840+1400), All kuta stam enchants (not infused) (868*3+341*4). So gear is (967+840*3+1400+868*3+341*4)= 8855

CPI: At 501 CP you have 167 green CP. So (1+167^0.56432/100)= 1.1796

Skills: Khajiit has no max Stamina bonus. You're best bet is to level Undaunted to 9 to max the Undaunted Mettle passive and run 5 medium armor, 1 light armor, 1 heavy armor to get a 6% stam bonus. (The ideal would be Heavy chest, Light belt, the rest medium.)

Food: V15 Blue Health and Stam food provides 4454 stamina

So assuming 501 CP, V15 Blue Food, and Undaunted Mettle

Max Stamina: ((7958+7326+8855)*1.796)+4454)*1.06=34,904

Yeah I already understand all the maths behind it, but I'll be using marksman over Hundings Rage and most likely putting some of my attribute points into health so I don't get 1 shotted.

But thanks, and yeah I'll be aiming for undaunted but as I'm only in the process of levelling this character at the moment that's a long way off.

I calculated 31,129, that was with 50 points into stamina and the rest in health, using the gear stated. (Using max CP and undaunted)

I currently have just over 400CP

thesesneaksaredopeb14a_ESO

How does everyone have so much stamina? I'm barely around 25000 with food. No wonder I do half the damage as everyone else

Lylith

thesesneaksaredopeb14a_ESO wrote: »

How does everyone have so much stamina? I'm barely around 25000 with food. No wonder I do half the damage as everyone else

v16 armor, kuta enchants, monster helms/shoulders, v15 food buffs.

PainfulFAFA

thesesneaksaredopeb14a_ESO wrote: »

How does everyone have so much stamina? I'm barely around 25000 with food. No wonder I do half the damage as everyone else

My Stam sorc has 35.5k Stam

My advice:
Use blue food (Max Hp + Max Stam for 1 hr)
Undaunted Passives
Gold Stam Enchants on all Gear
Robust trait on Jewelry
Racial Passives
Gear Set Bonuses

If you want to push more than 35k stam, you would have to go Infused on big pieces (Head, Chest, Leg). If you want glass cannon spec, just go Infused on everything for more max stam.

thesesneaksaredopeb14a_ESO

I could use everything on that list except for racial passives I play an argonian nb

psychotic13

CP makes a difference too

Farorin

My stamblade has around 30k I think, my regen and my weapon damage are what I actually focus on though.

MrTarkanian48

psychotic13 wrote: »

MrTarkanian48 wrote: »

How many Champ points do you have? The amount of green CP you have also affects your stats.

((Base+Gear+Attribute Points)*CPI)+Food+Mundus*Divines)*Skills (i.e. racial passives, Undaunted Mettle Passives, Bound Armaments/Sorc, Werewolf)

CPI is (1+relevant CP (in this case green CP)^.56432/100)

Base stam for everyone=7958
66 attributes in stam=7326
Gear= A pretty typical loadout of 5 pc Hundings (967 stam), 1 pc Kena, 1 piece Bloodspawn, 3 Robust Agility (840+840+840+1400), All kuta stam enchants (not infused) (868*3+341*4). So gear is (967+840*3+1400+868*3+341*4)= 8855

CPI: At 501 CP you have 167 green CP. So (1+167^0.56432/100)= 1.1796

Skills: Khajiit has no max Stamina bonus. You're best bet is to level Undaunted to 9 to max the Undaunted Mettle passive and run 5 medium armor, 1 light armor, 1 heavy armor to get a 6% stam bonus. (The ideal would be Heavy chest, Light belt, the rest medium.)

Food: V15 Blue Health and Stam food provides 4454 stamina

So assuming 501 CP, V15 Blue Food, and Undaunted Mettle

Max Stamina: ((7958+7326+8855)*1.796)+4454)*1.06=34,904

Yeah I already understand all the maths behind it, but I'll be using marksman over Hundings Rage and most likely putting some of my attribute points into health so I don't get 1 shotted.

But thanks, and yeah I'll be aiming for undaunted but as I'm only in the process of levelling this character at the moment that's a long way off.

I calculated 31,129, that was with 50 points into stamina and the rest in health, using the gear stated. (Using max CP and undaunted)

I currently have just over 400CP

Everyone has their own opinions on health. One thing to keep in mind with PVP is that you get an additional 5000 hp in cyrodiil. At your current CP, with blue food you should be over 20K hp in Cyrodiil, even higher once you get undaunted. If you use Impen gear, and use some CP in Resistant I think you will find 20K health adequate, and it would allow you to invest all attributes into Stamina.

Now PVE is a different story and you may need to invest in health attributes and/or Agility rings with the Healthy trait.