Please Retire Several Achievement Titles

Riggsy · May 2016

Zeni,

If you're set on making content easier in the upcoming DB patch then please consider retiring several titles acquired when completing the harder (read current) achievements. The two that come to my mind are "Boethiah's Scythe" and "Deadlands Adept" (I don't have the latter, I don't really have a personal interest at stake, just an opinion). You could replace them with something else but at least give the folks who did compete the achievement requirements at a harder setting some credit.

Thoughts?

D0ntevenL1ft · May 2016

Edit: misread initially but leave titles as is it's not much of a big deal. If some are changed then others will complain for a pre round save storm proof and the list would just grow and grow.

flguy147ub17_ESO · May 2016

I hope they dont spend 1 sec on changing achievement titles. The last thing in the game they should be concerned about.

idk · May 2016

The one from vDSA should have been retired when vDSA was nerded by means of vet cap increased to v16 and no change was made to DSA.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Man all this insecurity coming out of the community.

UltimaJoe777 · May 2016

Instead of this they could try adding titles related to Werewolves and Vampires. These really need some more backstory, like a quest to do after mastering them so you can claim the title that goes a bit more into the story presented in the quest you did to obtain them.

Necrelios · May 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Man all this insecurity coming out of the community.

Hey man, ego's are fragile

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flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

I hope they dont spend 1 sec on changing achievement titles. The last thing in the game they should be concerned about.

I couldn't agree more. Well maybe a little bit more. Alright, that's enough agreeing for today.

Humatiel · May 2016

@Korah_Eaglecry

You forget its not enough for "Casuals" to need to complete the content, they also must get all achievements and titles possible as well as BiS gear which of course should have a 100% drop rate. Hold on let me grab them a new vr16 while I'm at it.

Bonzodog01 · May 2016

*Le sigh*...

See, yet another pcmasterrace player complaining before thinking of those filthy little totally casual console players.

Console players, almost by definition, are casuals. Hell, on a good week, we might even play it for as much as 3 hours!. Oh, and we wants them titles.

and...OH LOOK <insert game title here> is out!! gotta go play that for a few weeks!.

Yeah, the message here is Please think of the console users. Its what ZOS do, see.

Valrien · May 2016

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

*Le sigh*...

See, yet another pcmasterrace player complaining before thinking of those filthy little totally casual console players.

Console players, almost by definition, are casuals. Hell, on a good week, we might even play it for as much as 3 hours!. Oh, and we wants them titles.

and...OH LOOK <insert game title here> is out!! gotta go play that for a few weeks!.

Yeah, the message here is Please think of the console users. Its what ZOS do, see.

There's a point when things get a little too casual.

code65536 · May 2016

They're not nerfing vDSA this patch--we've simply outgrown it.

And even with the nerfs to the dungeons, I'd expect that "Deadlands Adept" would still be a bit harder to get than "Master Wizard". So many farm runs needed to get those Flame Colossi

Things change as the game moves on, and that's normal. If you care about fancy titles, I'd expect that you've already moved onto "Stormproof" or "Flawless Conquerer".

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · May 2016

Yes let's remove some titles so new players who haven't even gotten to end game content yet can never obtain them. Genius idea! They're titles not loyalty rewards.

Pheefs · May 2016

I want ALL the Titles!!!
if I achieved something, I should get a title for it.

why CAN'T I be an Alchemist or Botanist, a Chef or a Surveyor?
& almost all the current titles are fight titles, even Explorer really.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170178/more-titles-for-achievements-for-glory-for-giggles

Recremen · May 2016

I think it would be terrible to remove any achievement titles. Heck half the folks with them now probably got them by scaling the dungeon down.

Absolutely no need to take something out or retire things.

failkiwib16_ESO · May 2016

I honestly don't care, I just want new challenging content and shiny new titles.

Boethiah's Scythe have been lowbie level dungie since Imperial City DLC release, and Deadland's Adept is a joke because the hardest thing to do there is to convince your groups to spend 4-5min longer in the dungeon for the "Veteran Flame Colossus Slayer", because most groups skip them.

I got speed and no death achievement more than half a year before I finally got my damn Deadlands Adept tittle, because of the flame colossus. x_x

Pheefs · May 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They're titles not loyalty rewards.

exactly!
We want more of them, not less.

Mojmir · May 2016

please remove this forum from your browser and stop asking for dumb things.

D0ntevenL1ft · May 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

please remove this forum from your browser and stop asking for dumb things.

What a ridiculous response. How about you be the one to leave ?

Taisynn · May 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Yes let's remove some titles so new players who haven't even gotten to end game content yet can never obtain them. Genius idea! They're titles not loyalty rewards.

This! They're not loyalty rewards. Get over yourself, MasterRace players.

Ragnaarok · May 2016

Recremen wrote: »

I think it would be terrible to remove any achievement titles. Heck half the folks with them now probably got them by scaling the dungeon down. Absolutely no need to take something out or retire things.

This. I got nearly all my vCOA achievements when I was like, v1-4, before I even realised that city of ash had its own set of achievements for a title. I didn't intentionally go for them, it's just I had grouped with all v16's and I just trailed behind them for key runs lol. Now all I need is the no death run and flame colossi killer and I have that title.

Decado · May 2016

What does it matter? I mean really? Let them have those titles, if they are proud of completing VDSA let them wear the title, does it make any difference atall? It's actually kinda amusing opening my titles tab on my Sorc, who has everything from master wizard to flawless, it does not make any difference atall to the game, just because you think something is easy doesn't mean others do.

I don't care if people have a title I had a while
Back and it was easier for them, I don't care if people running around with stormproof did it before or after the save feature (I don't know if you can get flawless from saving so won't mention it)

Thevampirenight · May 2016

We need more acheivement titles for existing achievements
As well as several other ones.
Vampire Hunter achievement with Vampire Hunter title
Werewolf Hunter achievement with, Werewolf Hunter title
Title Vampire, and useable only if your a vampire.
Title Werewolf for werewolf achievement and only useable if you are werewolf
Title, Vampire Patriarch or Matriarch for master vampire achievement and only useable for if vampire
Title Werewolf Alpha, as well as Werewolf Beta and Werewolf Omega Titles for Werewolf master achievement and only useable if werewolf.
Plus other titles for hard to get achievements.
Sky Shard Hunter Title For finding all vanilla skyshards
Liar Pants on Fire Title for finding Maiq in all the zones hes in.
Undead Scavenger title, for Finding all the undead momentos
Forest Scavenger Title for all beast momentos
Void Scavenger Title for all Daedric momentos
Cannibal Title for all humioniod Momentos Plus having the meat sack momemto unlocked.

ListerJMC · May 2016

I'm inclined to say we need more titles for more diversity, I don't think retiring and replacing the existing ones is the way to go.

I'm also just going to quote this like several others in this thread because it's very true:

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They're titles not loyalty rewards.

Additionally it's always going to be more difficult for some people to get titles than others, for example I'm from Australia and I've gotten some of my titles playing with crazy high ping but that doesn't make me more entitled to using them than someone with low ping just because it was harder for me.

I don't know I just don't like this kind of logic.

Mojmir · May 2016

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

please remove this forum from your browser and stop asking for dumb things.

What a ridiculous response. How about you be the one to leave ?

Nah I'm good,ridiculous post requires ridiculous response from me.

Cavanoskus · May 2016

For the record, I'm one of those PC-is-better-than-console people (although it's all in good fun), and I'm 100% against the removal of any titles or achievements. It's bad enough having things rotate out of the Crown Store (because they need to "make room" in a virtual inventory? Maybe ZOS should buy a backpack upgrade?) but I feel that there's a strong completionist tradition to the Elder Scrolls series. I don't mean every player is a completionist, because many of them aren't. I just feel that the games themselves encourage players to collect as much as they can, whether we're talking about items, houses, or guild memberships (and the ES games have allowed you to rack up tons of simultaneous faction memberships [and even guild leaderships] with only very few of them being mutually exclusive).

It's deeply ingrained in the Elder Scrolls series that you can collect what you seek, no matter how useless, and I feel that removing titles and achievements would go against that spirit. Besides, all the "hardcore," "cutting-edge" whatever-you-want-to-call-them players will still have titles nobody else has, because they'll be doing new and harder content first, and by the time the "casuals" get the same titles they'll be old news to the hardcore raiders because they'll have new titles by then, with which to flaunt their, uh... hardcoreness.

PC gamers have feelings too, by the way. I can't help my insatiable need to mod everything. *cries into her 5 gigabyte Morrowind folder*

Bossdonut · May 2016

Who cares? Do titles help you during salary negotiations or something?

YES HELLO I WAS A DEADLANDS ADEPT PRIOR TO IMPERIAL CITY!

WOW!! THAT IS AN EXTRA 300K PER YEAR CONGRATULATIONS!

AtraisMachina · May 2016

I use both those titles

runagate · May 2016

I think we deserve the title "Miss Congeniality" and "Baby Makes A Whoopsie" as replacements.

lassitershawn · May 2016

This is a poor idea. I love titles and seeing tons of people with a wide variety of titles. I also like collecting titles. I think the only PvE titles I have left to get on my sorc are Explorer, Master Angler, and Dro-something-or-other Destroyer. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm sure there are others like me who want all the titles and want everyone to have lots and lots of beautiful titles. Seriously though, I bet a lot of people with Deadlands Adept got it by scaling to v1 anyways, and vDSA has been easy for a while...

Argruna · May 2016

Riggsy wrote: »

Zeni,

If you're set on making content easier in the upcoming DB patch then please consider retiring several titles acquired when completing the harder (read current) achievements. The two that come to my mind are "Boethiah's Scythe" and "Deadlands Adept" (I don't have the latter, I don't really have a personal interest at stake, just an opinion). You could replace them with something else but at least give the folks who did compete the achievement requirements at a harder setting some credit.

Thoughts?

If I wanted to play a game where content was 'retired' for the 'elite' players that had more time on their hands to play than I do to show off, I'd be playing World of Warcraft. The king of content removal. Then adding it back in under a black market so that those 'elite' players can come into the forums and state that is was a low blow allowing 'insert removed mount here' to be purchasable by gold instead of 'earning the achievement the right way.'

NovaShadow · May 2016

No, I'm completely against this. Not just because I haven't gotten these 2 particular titles yet but because not everyone has done everything.