[DATAMINE] Next DLC - Vvardenfel?

Osteos

SantieClaws wrote: »

This one fears we will never see beautiful Elsweyr. There were no khajiit heroes in the movies, not even a khajiit in the promo video for the Thieves Guild. No khajiit costumes have we seen.

Also no ball of yarn emote and still no saddle that does not pinch the tail.

We are the unloved ones of Tamriel.

Yours with resigned to it paws
Santie Claws

Nah they are just saving the best for last

ParaNostram

Well the, this excites me on so many levels.

JD2013

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think some rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

Lysette

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Sotha_Sil

If this is true... this is FREAKIN AWESOME ! Clockwork & Vvardenfell, my dreams are coming true

JD2013

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Well, the grand canyon would not bother me so much as I am not American

I get what you mean, I absolutely do. But to me, the Gold Coast doesn't look massively different. Though, in fairness, it has been quite some time since I fired up Oblivion.

Cyrodiil, however pretty, looks generic fantasy to me, despite my absolute love of the lore. Though the coastal areas are really stunning when the sun is setting there, so I am okay with it all.

You are of course as entitled to your opinions as I am though, and if you find it not as your remember, then it isn't.

Lysette

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Well, the grand canyon would not bother me so much as I am not American

I get what you mean, I absolutely do. But to me, the Gold Coast doesn't look massively different. Though, in fairness, it has been quite some time since I fired up Oblivion.

Cyrodiil, however pretty, looks generic fantasy to me, despite my absolute love of the lore. Though the coastal areas are really stunning when the sun is setting there, so I am okay with it all.

You are of course as entitled to your opinions as I am though, and if you find it not as your remember, then it isn't.

I am still playing Oblivion and that might be the reason, why I experience it differently - it is not something I remember from the past, I just was there last week. I use these ridges to look around and spot game, so I know pretty well how those look like.

JD2013

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Well, the grand canyon would not bother me so much as I am not American

I get what you mean, I absolutely do. But to me, the Gold Coast doesn't look massively different. Though, in fairness, it has been quite some time since I fired up Oblivion.

Cyrodiil, however pretty, looks generic fantasy to me, despite my absolute love of the lore. Though the coastal areas are really stunning when the sun is setting there, so I am okay with it all.

You are of course as entitled to your opinions as I am though, and if you find it not as your remember, then it isn't.

I am still playing Oblivion and that might be the reason, why I experience it differently - it is not something I remember from the past, I just was there last week.

Yeah that is likely it

Man, now I need to go fire up Oblivion again ...

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

If this is true... this is FREAKIN AWESOME ! Clockwork & Vvardenfell, my dreams are coming true

You get back to your city and stay there until told otherwise!

Gidorick

*checks the date to see if it's April 1st*

Inarre

SantieClaws wrote: »

This one fears we will never see beautiful Elsweyr. There were no khajiit heroes in the movies, not even a khajiit in the promo video for the Thieves Guild. No khajiit costumes have we seen.

Also no ball of yarn emote and still no saddle that does not pinch the tail.

We are the unloved ones of Tamriel.

Yours with resigned to it paws
Santie Claws

There are many beautiful kitties in the Maw dungeon

Moozzie

These references are a leftover from their aprils fools joke ;(

Recremen

Interesting, but we also heard about horse racing and Murkmire like, years ago, from PTS datamining, so idk if it's just a teaser for stuff coming Eventually or if it's a teaser for stuff coming Soon. I'm curious how this fits into the timeline, though. Are those areas supposed to be inhabited yet?

Moozzie

Recremen wrote: »

Interesting, but we also heard about horse racing and Murkmire like, years ago, from PTS datamining, so idk if it's just a teaser for stuff coming Eventually or if it's a teaser for stuff coming Soon. I'm curious how this fits into the timeline, though. Are those areas supposed to be inhabited yet?

Not as inhabited as we know it from morrowind. It used to be pretty inhabited in E1 but some plague or so happend. And only a few stayed. I guess they are known as asslanders.

nine9six

I would love to see "ESO-Timeline" Vvardenfell.

I'm sure on a long enough timeline we'll "go" everywhere. Money to be made, you know.

dimensional

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Except that analogy doesn't even come close to describing the disparity in looks between TES IV and ESO. It's way more minor.

Enodoc

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Well, the grand canyon would not bother me so much as I am not American

I get what you mean, I absolutely do. But to me, the Gold Coast doesn't look massively different. Though, in fairness, it has been quite some time since I fired up Oblivion.

Cyrodiil, however pretty, looks generic fantasy to me, despite my absolute love of the lore. Though the coastal areas are really stunning when the sun is setting there, so I am okay with it all.

You are of course as entitled to your opinions as I am though, and if you find it not as your remember, then it isn't.

I am still playing Oblivion and that might be the reason, why I experience it differently - it is not something I remember from the past, I just was there last week. I use these ridges to look around and spot game, so I know pretty well how those look like.

Yeah, nostalgia works best when it's what you think you remember, rather than what you know to be true.

Ra'Shtar

Hmm i dunno if i can believe this, i wish i could datamine myself

ElderBugOffline

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Hmm i dunno if i can believe this, i wish i could datamine myself

its simple
just google and datamine pts files

dimensional

Where did you find this info exactly? I mean, who or what is Terabit. Can you show us a source to this? That would be pretty cool!

ElderBugOffline

dimensional wrote: »

Where did you find this info exactly? I mean, who or what is Terabit. Can you show us a source to this? That would be pretty cool!

terabit always posting datamined info on one russian forum and here too

all his topics with Feature of Costumes for crowns etc
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262033/data-mining-new-crown-store-items-from-2-4-0

this is latest datamine
http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/29/16939-tes-online-odna-iz-sleduyushhikh-ostanovok-vvardenfel/

dimensional

Awesome, thanks

bloodenragedb14_ESO

Id give anything to see the ghostfence again

id give anything to walk the ashlands of vvardenfell again

id give my left foot to see the city of vivec

Lysette

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Enodoc wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease, to go back to the lands of Morrowind, but I see it like this:

If I compare the looks of the landscape of the gold coast in Oblivion and in the new DLC (what I have seen from it in videos, that is), I am missing certain terrain features, which gave it a certain feel to it - earthy ridges, not rocky ones - but in the DLC those are rocks - which are not flat on their top, like the many smaller earthy ridges in Oblivion, but rocky large boulders instead. I loved the look of these earthy ridges and the golden dense vegetation of the gold coast in Oblivion - in the DLC it looks barren and somewhat wrong to me.

Now if Vardenfell would as well look that much different from how it was in Morrowind, this could make fans complain and those are many - in a poll we have seen, that a lot started their TES adventures with Morrowind - and there the love for this world started - and when this would look a lot different from what it was, this could be really a huge disappointment.

So doing this would certainly be a risk.

It is a risk. But they can't not add zones because of nostalgia goggles.

Remember, this is 800 plus years before the main series. Things will look different. And whilst this may cause a bit of a furor with some fans, but in that span of time things logically would look different. I love Morrowind, and greatly hope that they do add Vvardenfell. It will be different, but at the same time it will be wonderfully familiar.

Terrain features like I described them, change during the course of many tens of million years, not within 800 years.

And that is absolutely true. However, I have been back to places after 10 + years that have changed. Never mind after 800.

Also, they can't exactly recreate everything completely spot on. I rather think rocky terrain being different is slightly nitpicky, no?

How would you like it, if the grand canyon would have to be done in a game and it would not look like it does in the real world, but be a hilly grassy terrain with smooth elevations instead?- The character of a landscape is lost due to such things IMO. Rocks are a quite different type than earthy ridges - and it gives the landscape a certain look and feel to it.

Well, the grand canyon would not bother me so much as I am not American

I get what you mean, I absolutely do. But to me, the Gold Coast doesn't look massively different. Though, in fairness, it has been quite some time since I fired up Oblivion.

Cyrodiil, however pretty, looks generic fantasy to me, despite my absolute love of the lore. Though the coastal areas are really stunning when the sun is setting there, so I am okay with it all.

You are of course as entitled to your opinions as I am though, and if you find it not as your remember, then it isn't.

I am still playing Oblivion and that might be the reason, why I experience it differently - it is not something I remember from the past, I just was there last week. I use these ridges to look around and spot game, so I know pretty well how those look like.

Yeah, nostalgia works best when it's what you think you remember, rather than what you know to be true.

it has boulders but as well earthy ridges, where the base is rock, but their top is flattened and overgrown with grass, which creates earthy soil on top of those ridges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0rKbC5F_I

Just look at how common this formation is.

Ra'Shtar

ElderBugOffline wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Hmm i dunno if i can believe this, i wish i could datamine myself

its simple
just google and datamine pts files

I have tried a lot of times before but i can never understand how to do it and since there is not videos on how to datamine eso for noobs i can't help but just give up after half an hour of hitting my head against a wall.

Father_X_Zombie

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

Im dc and would approve a summerset dlc....to raid and burn down that whole place.
Long live the covenant! Long live the future empire! Long live king emeric!

lol

Morimizo

AHHHHH, me dear mortals. Don't you remember me own set of islands called Sheogorad?

I do!

Except when I don't.

I specifically included them with Vvardenfell because of my fascination with pointy rocks. Reminds me of countless teeth awash in a sea of saliva. Kind of like me great aunt's second wife, Dreadaedrothicaz, right before she bit into a Scamp belly.

Hideous creature, don't know why I mentioned her. One of those things you can't un-see, you know?

I wonder if I had left me Fork, my precious Fork, there by then. Hmmm....

Time is relative, you know. Relatively speaking. Which I just did, about my relatives. If you were even listening!!!

Most sincerely,
Uncle Sheo

Nightingale1176

^ Skingrad on Live as of 4 days ago.

frethopper

I had hoped Vvardenfell would be in ESO since the game was announced. Morrowind rocked my world when I first played it.

jcaceresw

Lysette wrote: »

Remaking a region, which was already in former TES games is a risk - it is a big tease

Well, they have remade TES2: Daggerfall for ESO and its a good thing for me because I havent played it too much. I loved TES games since I played Morrowind so I am very excited to see it again, but hoping the areas around that island also come in the next DLC.

aldriq

nordmarian wrote: »

Another thing is that Morrowind was so much bigger and I'm afraid the ESO version of Vvardenfell will be way too small for our taste. I'm hoping for a zone twice as big as Stonefalls or even bigger.

To be fair, since Vvardenfell is almost as large as the rest of mainland Morrowind it's very likely it would be split in at least in 3 zones. And for a DLC they may only release one.