Is there a way to hide my @name?

ArgoCye

Console players have essentially had their @names visible since it launched. It's great that we can finally use our char names as well. As far as I know, no PS4 ESO players have logged on to find all their stuff has been taken.

This is a huge over-reaction.

Palidon

ZOS you need to provide an option for a player to hide his or her @name from being displayed You are messing with a players privacy by not doing that and it is wrong and totally unfair to the player.

Tavore1138

ArgoCye wrote: »

Console players have essentially had their @names visible since it launched. It's great that we can finally use our char names as well. As far as I know, no PS4 ESO players have logged on to find all their stuff has been taken.

This is a huge over-reaction.

Is you @name on PS4 the same as your account login username?

But overall this is not a huge concern but it is a concern, in the security world you start with the principle of giving out as little information as possible, the minimum tequired for whatever the purpose is - this exceeds that minimum requirement and I have yet to see anyone give much of a reason behind why having it is good.

Lava_Croft

It's good because it allows you to ignore/befriend @accounts instead of certain characters on an @account. Imagine having to populate your ignore/friends list with 8 different characters all tied to the same @account.

If you really care that much about security, focus on the strength of your password.

Tavore1138

Lava_Croft wrote: »

It's good because it allows you to ignore/befriend @accounts instead of certain characters on an @account. Imagine having to populate your ignore/friends list with 8 different characters all tied to the same @account.

If you really care that much about security, focus on the strength of your password.

My password is very complex but the point is that the less info that is freely available the better, even the seemingly trivial can make it that little bit easier to breach security. But in a world where people share photos of their most private moments with the world on facebook and twitter. I know I am in the minority...

I thought we ignored or friended on an @name level anyway... As in if you befriend my character called Fred you would actually see @fredaccount in your list, so from that side it doesn't change?

Annra

Lava_Croft wrote: »

It's good because it allows you to ignore/befriend @accounts instead of certain characters on an @account. Imagine having to populate your ignore/friends list with 8 different characters all tied to the same @account.

Implementing a system that blocks all char names of a player without knowing his user ID should be easy.

Luigi_Vampa

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Abeille wrote: »

I don't mind people seeing my @name, since they could see it already if they block me.

This, it's been out there for a while if people wanted to "steal" the info. Just say anything in /zone, or /yell, or /say, I click and ignore and there it is. I bet a bot could auto-farm @-names that way, putting people ignore all day. This isn't a major security breach.

No it isn't a major breach but it is still a breach - and lots of minor breaches add up to coming home one day and finding that someone has taken over your account and all your stuff is gone.

In a game where people spend considerable numbers of hours building up a character and account it is irresponsible for a gaming company to do anything that increases the risk of an account being compromised - more so since the introduction of crowns and the ability for someone to effectively spend 'real' money by gaining access to an account, plus the private information held on account pages that could also be compromised.

Many major companies have opened themselves to data breaches over recent years that have cost them reputation, customers and actual money - these very often come from a progression of seemingly minor security changes that build up to allow access rather than the Hollywood super-hacker trope we see so often.

Sorry to bang on but this is part of what I have to consider in my day job so I get rather frustrated when I see this sort of stuff happening here....

It isn't increasing the risk, that's the point. Anyone who wanted to steal @ - names can do so much easier with existing options.

The point is that you are mistaken because it is increasing the risk, right now unless i interact with you in the game in some way or have my forum name the same as my account name you can't do much to find it - you certainly can't get it merely by looking at me. Even if you want to use the interaction to fake report or something you at least have to make an effort and potentially act in a manner that at least would warn someone you had an unhealthy interest in them.

The earlier point about game tags doesn't stand either because whole your gamer tag may be open your login username will most often me something else like your email.

As I keep emphasizing this is not an end of the world type breach but it changes this information from being something you had to make some effort to get into being something that is freely displayed for all to see - in the security business that is generally deemed to be a bad thing.

@SuraklinPrime Actually in gamepad mode you can get it by just looking at you. Since gamepad mode is just a port of console - it would should account name rather than gamertag.

I know, and people seemed to dislike that quite a lot too

If you already knew this why did you keep saying that you were a little bit protected if you just didn't interact with people? So, adding @names doesn't actually increase the risk at all, like so many people here are saying.

Sheesh, because this applied to a subset of players who used that method not to the whole game population. Just because a few people had access to that info before doesn't make it good that now everyone will.

Sorry if that sounded harsh. My point is that this information has always been available at all times in the past. This new display changes nothing. People could easily find your account name unless you never joined guilds, never typed in chat and avoided all populated areas so no one could actually look at you. That doesn't sound like a realistic playstyle. I get that you don't like the names being displayed, but this new system changes very little from before in terms of security. Our account names have always been visable. I'm not saying that that is a good thing, just that the names being displayed on our nameplates doesn't really make it different to how it already was. All it does is make easy to find information slightly easier.

Spacefish2323

I agree with those that wish to be able to suppress this change. Maybe it's just the introvert in me, but I have hated every step MMOs have taken towards becoming social media. Blizzard's real ID, ESO using your account name in various ways since launch (I wish I had known then, would have picked a more appropriate tag), and now even more prominently. When I want to Facebook, I Facebook. When I want to play an RPG, I play one of my characters in ESO. A character. I don't log myself into Tamriel.

Do you understand what the RPG in MMORPG stands for? Role-playing game. My character has a name in Tamriel just like I have a name in the real world and my account has a name on the ZOS database. Why bother having us pick character names at all now?

Sure, people can find your @ in order to ignore an account (a very good thing), but that is demonstrably different from having it plastered to your avatar. Forgive the comparison, but isn't that argument that 'it's just the way it is already' the same as saying there is no difference between having a sex offender registry versus having to wear a scarlet letter or tattoo all the time?

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Well, I am not seeing @names today on the pts. Not mine or anyone else's.

Abeille

Lava_Croft wrote: »

It's good because it allows you to ignore/befriend @accounts instead of certain characters on an @account. Imagine having to populate your ignore/friends list with 8 different characters all tied to the same @account.

If you really care that much about security, focus on the strength of your password.

You already ignore the whole account if you ignore a character. Their @names are what appear on your ignore list. Displaying character name only never had any effect on this. It was, though, cleaner and more aesthetically pleasant than what PTS has now, which is why I hate how it is now on PTS.

cazlonb16_ESO

The attitude of most people on the interwebs on privacy and security will never cease to amaze me. The issue of login handles being easily accessible has been brought up multiple times before, unfortunately with no response by ZOS.

What most people in this thread are saying amounts to "My bathroom window is broken, so looters could potentially get in anyway. Let's spare them the inconvenience of climbing through said window and break the front door as well."

I'd rather call the handyman and have him repair the broken window. But that's just me I guess.

DisgracefulMind

I actually don't like the @ names being shown with no option to hide them. It feels really...invasive, idk.

HeroOfNone

Your @ name was always there to see using block or friending folks. Addons have also shown this. Most of you were simply running under the illusion that it was private, but it never was.

s7732425ub17_ESO

People who want their @ names hidden must be in 0 guilds and never talk in chat.

Oh wait.

Lava_Croft

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Your @ name was always there to see using block or friending folks. Addons have also shown this. Most of you were simply running under the illusion that it was private, but it never was.

This.

Elsonso

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

The attitude of most people on the interwebs on privacy and security will never cease to amaze me. The issue of login handles being easily accessible has been brought up multiple times before, unfortunately with no response by ZOS.

What most people in this thread are saying amounts to "My bathroom window is broken, so looters could potentially get in anyway. Let's spare them the inconvenience of climbing through said window and break the front door as well."

I'd rather call the handyman and have him repair the broken window. But that's just me I guess.

Your account name is like the address to your house, not your bathroom window. Your password is like the lock on your door. You keep your house safe by locking the door and keeping your key safe (unless you are a Templar) and you keep your account safe by having a good password that is properly managed. You can hide the address of your house, but if someone wants to find where you live, all they have to do is follow you home, or steal your car registration out of the car you forgot to lock, or see where you go on your GPS. You do not live in a secret lair, online or offline. Stop trying to pretend you do.

The key to security, both online and in your personal life, is to assign the proper emphasis to security measures in relation to how effective those security measures are, and then use that to improve security. You do not spend time trying to hide your address when you have the key to your front door hidden under the potted plant next to it. For online security, you do not focus on securing the account names when you should be focusing on passwords. Focus on the password and how the account and password are managed. That is all you need to do to keep your account secure.

If you find yourself concerned about the game showing players your account name and the potential for hackers to steal your ESO account, I am sure I can give you a boatload of other things to think about that should concern you more.

Annra

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

People who want their @ names hidden must be in 0 guilds and never talk in chat.

Oh wait.

That's exactly how I'm play this game since beta. Why? Because I don't want to show my userID to everyone.

Sparky617

Create a more complicated password, oh, and you have to verify EVERY new device that you access your account on via your registered e-mail. I see zero issue with your @username being displayed. In fact, I think that it creates more accountability. If you play like a duche and teabag people in PvP then your reputation should accompany you. You should not be able to hide behind various character names.

Annra

I don't see it as security problem. It's a huge privacy problem!

starkerealm

rootimus wrote: »

This has been asked for since at least launch day, though usually because it reveals half of your login credentials. I don't believe there's ever been a reply from Zenimax.

Yeah, this is the real problem here. If our @name didn't automatically match our login ID, this would be less of a problem. For example: If we had to log in using our email instead of the visible name... but... as is. Ugh.

Tavore1138

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

People who want their @ names hidden must be in 0 guilds and never talk in chat.

Oh wait.

There is a difference, however small, in having them visible to people you choose to adventure with and even knowing that someone might have found it from a comment you made in zone chat.

But, to borrow the house analogy from @lordrichter , while someone may be able to follow me home it does not mean I am going to start going out with my full address tattooed on my forehead!

Minno

I feel bad for the people that used their online banking username for their ESO account ... Lol

Rohamad_Ali

This is already the way it is on PS4 N no ones suffered any consequences I can remember . I would personally like to see character name plates rather then log in names . I was hoping that was what this feature would provide .

NovaMarx

ZOS really have to stop fixing things that aren't broken, and concentrate on fixing actual issues in game! I do not want my @name shown - both for security reasons and RP reasons.

End of. If they do implement this, and don't make it optional, I will seriously start thinking of ending my subscription. (Sorry for being a drama queen, but it's the truth)

Immortal_Dark410

Detector wrote: »

I want hide ny @username too.

I Agree there is a certain privacy that comes with your @name not displayed as it will be and i for one am against the concept of showing it. It would give easy access to ppl to bother others in game and also give half the information to someones account which to me isn't appealing at all.

Suru

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I actually don't like the @ names being shown with no option to hide them. It feels really...invasive, idk.

Yea I only see the salty ragers benefiting from this lol

Seravi

Well I have to say since this has been in play I have ignored more players in a few days than I have in the past 2+ years I have played this game. I don't mind game related questions, etc. Don't bug me with garbage whispers, links, etc that have nothing to do with the game. Maybe the "new" will wear off soon but not holding my breath.

Tavore1138

Minno wrote: »

I feel bad for the people that used their online banking username for their ESO account ... Lol

Maybe not banking but it if I'd known this ID was going to be aggressively public I may have used another one...

Nice to see @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober not commenting again....

k9mouse

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

I feel bad for the people that used their online banking username for their ESO account ... Lol

Maybe not banking but it if I'd known this ID was going to be aggressively public I may have used another one...

Nice to see @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober not commenting again....

~offers a 100% Khajiit made sweetroll for a /lurk comment~

Tib

k9mouse wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

I feel bad for the people that used their online banking username for their ESO account ... Lol

Maybe not banking but it if I'd known this ID was going to be aggressively public I may have used another one...

Nice to see @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober not commenting again....

~offers a 100% Khajiit made sweetroll for a /lurk comment~

Watch out! With the Sweetroll Killer on the streets, none of the sweetrolls might ever be safe to eat again