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Sturdy, Weighted, Well fitted in 2.4

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Top, lel.

Worthless becomes must have. Discuss.
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    For clarity

    Weighted: This trait now grants you a chance to gain additional Ultimate whenever you generate Ultimate normally, and has been renamed to Decisive.

    Sturdy: This trait now reduces the cost of Block.

    Well-fitted: This trait now also reduces the cost of Roll Dodge, in addition to reducing the cost of Sprint.
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  • Xsorus
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    You now have some really good choices

    Not to mention Heavy Armor is no joke now..

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    Xsorus wrote: »
    You now have some really good choices

    Not to mention Heavy Armor is no joke now..

    Heavy Armor wasnt a joke before, now its going to be ridiculously overpowered with Sturdy and Impen traits

    Oh god... my templar house. TEMPLAR MANSION
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  • Minno
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    Link to changes?
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  • Telel
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    If well-fitted is actually that..Telel may have use for something other than impenetrable!

    QUICKLY someone post a .GIF of a kitty constantly rolling back and forth!
    Edited by Telel on April 25, 2016 9:16PM
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    Telel Training for Dark Brotherhood

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    Telel wrote: »
    If well-fitted is actually that..Telel may have use for something other than impenetrable!

    QUICKLY someone post a .GIF of a kitty constantly rolling back and forth!

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  • strikeback1247
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    You now have some really good choices

    Not to mention Heavy Armor is no joke now..

    Heavy Armor wasnt a joke before, now its going to be ridiculously overpowered with Sturdy and Impen traits

    Oh god... my templar house. TEMPLAR MANSION

    Templar houses just turned into templar bunkers. Fullfletched nuclear fallout bunkers... with lazors.
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Telel Training for Dark Brotherhood

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    Remember Telel's old Batkhajiit look? Well, this one still has that armor in storage and it's all well fitted. =^.^=
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    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.
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  • Humphie
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Telel Training for Dark Brotherhood

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    Omg Telel....THAT is you. ;)
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    Yay EVEN MORE ROLL DODGE SHUFFLE!
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    Il prolly try out weighted since NB already gain ultimate stupid fast.
  • KenaPKK
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    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.
    Edited by KenaPKK on April 25, 2016 11:41PM
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    Good thing I saved all my monster set PC's muhahahahahahaa
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.
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    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    That's not true; those shields last 6 seconds; you want impen so I don't pop out of stealth and instant gib your group.
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    That's not true; those shields last 6 seconds; you want impen so I don't pop out of stealth and instant gib your group.

    And the traits are very build specific. With some associated with experience gains, gold extraction, and impen remaining the same.

    Questions are:
    1) will nirn be easier to farm? How does the flat rate compare against our current system?
    2) will nirn add to sword spell power? Or just weapon?
    3) will status effects be a new way to dmg or control enemies?

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    Minno wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    That's not true; those shields last 6 seconds; you want impen so I don't pop out of stealth and instant gib your group.

    And the traits are very build specific. With some associated with experience gains, gold extraction, and impen remaining the same.

    Questions are:
    1) will nirn be easier to farm? How does the flat rate compare against our current system?
    2) will nirn add to sword spell power? Or just weapon?
    3) will status effects be a new way to dmg or control enemies?

    Nirn was adding 11% more weapon damage per weapon which was around 200-300 more weapon damage total..which counts towards Spell Power.

    Some of the actual Weapon Enchants are pretty good now...the Weapon damage increase one is like 300 now....Which is pretty good..the damage one was around 3k which isn't bad
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    @Rylana points for meme lol, anyone got a dodge value yet on wellfitted?
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  • code65536
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    Minno wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    That's not true; those shields last 6 seconds; you want impen so I don't pop out of stealth and instant gib your group.

    And the traits are very build specific. With some associated with experience gains, gold extraction, and impen remaining the same.

    Questions are:
    1) will nirn be easier to farm? How does the flat rate compare against our current system?
    2) will nirn add to sword spell power? Or just weapon?
    3) will status effects be a new way to dmg or control enemies?

    1) Nirnhoned on armor grants a flat armor value regardless of the base armor value; so nirn is inferior to reinforced armor for pieces with a high base armor rating (e.g., heavy chest). For lesser pieces, nirnhoned will be better than reinforced. Overall, though, it's a trash trait: on the pieces that matter, reinforced is better, and on the small pieces, you're better off with divines, well-fitted, sturdy, or even infused.

    2) Weapon nirn will, at CP160 gold, add 146 WD/SD. Contrasted with 5160 penetration form Sharpened at CP160 gold, potent nirn is now more or less a junk trait.

    3) I think it just means things like the burning or chilled status effects, which currently don't do anything beyond acting as a DoT.


    On the PTS, the only thing nirn is good for is for research. And this applies to both flavors of nirn.
    Edited by code65536 on April 26, 2016 12:59AM
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  • KenaPKK
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    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    PvP sounds like it's going to be so fun...

    Now EVERYONE gets to be a sorc! :dizzy:
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  • Xsorus
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    PvP sounds like it's going to be so fun...

    Now EVERYONE gets to be a sorc! :dizzy:

    A lot of people aren't realizing that Shields have basically become active defense like Blocking and Dodging now.

    its no longer casting shields on the back bar or running around with shields up 24/7 while you do a crap ton of damage.

    If you run no impen you're basically going to have to cast shields every 6 seconds otherwise i'm going to jump in on your group and do a crap ton of damage to you. That's not to say you can't run things like Well Fitted and Bone Shield and be super good as a Stamina user..But you're opening yourself to being Ganked.
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    PvP sounds like it's going to be so fun...

    Now EVERYONE gets to be a sorc! :dizzy:

    A lot of people aren't realizing that Shields have basically become active defense like Blocking and Dodging now.

    its no longer casting shields on the back bar or running around with shields up 24/7 while you do a crap ton of damage.

    If you run no impen you're basically going to have to cast shields every 6 seconds otherwise i'm going to jump in on your group and do a crap ton of damage to you. That's not to say you can't run things like Well Fitted and Bone Shield and be super good as a Stamina user..But you're opening yourself to being Ganked.

    I don't think the reduction from 20 to 6 seconds is going to change anything in a sorc playstyle. A sorc can burst you down in 6 seconds easily by timing abilities properly. The harness magicka buff was NEEDED for magDK but will make magsorc juggernauts. But this is out of context of the thread so I'm not going to go any further.
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    PvP sounds like it's going to be so fun...

    Now EVERYONE gets to be a sorc! :dizzy:

    A lot of people aren't realizing that Shields have basically become active defense like Blocking and Dodging now.

    its no longer casting shields on the back bar or running around with shields up 24/7 while you do a crap ton of damage.

    If you run no impen you're basically going to have to cast shields every 6 seconds otherwise i'm going to jump in on your group and do a crap ton of damage to you. That's not to say you can't run things like Well Fitted and Bone Shield and be super good as a Stamina user..But you're opening yourself to being Ganked.

    I don't think the reduction from 20 to 6 seconds is going to change anything in a sorc playstyle. A sorc can burst you down in 6 seconds easily by timing abilities properly. The harness magicka buff was NEEDED for magDK but will make magsorc juggernauts. But this is out of context of the thread so I'm not going to go any further.

    You pretty much have to put it on your main bar..Unless you're going to try swapping every 6 seconds to keep it up..which isn't fun. Its going to be a lot harder to manage then ya think...
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    This may help slow down the burst meta. One can only hope.

    Resource sustain will still be through the roof, though, will it not? As long as that is the case, it's either burst, zerg, or don't kill anyone.

    Also people will be moving away from impen to experiment with the reworked traits = crit bursting becomes more lethal than it already is.

    Not so sure, with everyone now having a shield on their bar (and lets be real, anyone serious is gonna have either magicka harness or bone shield slotted), impen isnt even important anymore.

    PvP sounds like it's going to be so fun...

    Now EVERYONE gets to be a sorc! :dizzy:

    A lot of people aren't realizing that Shields have basically become active defense like Blocking and Dodging now.

    its no longer casting shields on the back bar or running around with shields up 24/7 while you do a crap ton of damage.

    If you run no impen you're basically going to have to cast shields every 6 seconds otherwise i'm going to jump in on your group and do a crap ton of damage to you. That's not to say you can't run things like Well Fitted and Bone Shield and be super good as a Stamina user..But you're opening yourself to being Ganked.

    I don't think the reduction from 20 to 6 seconds is going to change anything in a sorc playstyle. A sorc can burst you down in 6 seconds easily by timing abilities properly. The harness magicka buff was NEEDED for magDK but will make magsorc juggernauts. But this is out of context of the thread so I'm not going to go any further.

    You pretty much have to put it on your main bar..Unless you're going to try swapping every 6 seconds to keep it up..which isn't fun. Its going to be a lot harder to manage then ya think...

    If the people a sorc is fighting take more than 6 seconds to get his damage shields down I wouldn't even worry about recasting them to be honest because they'd have to be doing little to no damage...
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    A lot of people aren't realizing that Shields have basically become active defense like Blocking and Dodging now.

    It was already that to a Sorc in combat. The change to Hardened Ward doesn't change much at a practical level. It mainly adds a little tedium. It's been a long time since I played my Sorc, but I don't think I often went more than six seconds before a refresh while in combat. I didn't stack Harness with it though.

    The change in duration to Harness/Dampen Magicka is more significant as it will be less convenient to stack with.
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