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AD faction on TrueFlame very selfish, wont invite LFg players.

  • Septimus_Magna
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    Random players in group > increased chance that someone dies > VD explosion > more players die > more VD explosions > everyone dies


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  • Artis
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    Go solo and see what news arrives at zone chat and go for that hotspot. I have done soloing for less than a month and it did helpme a lot, I was able to learn new tricks from it.

    Basically what I want to say is "Soloing is the key to learn your character"
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    That's what I've been doing for a while. Got bored pretty quick. I couldn't defend a keep or take a keep if no one else would go there. And groups would rather go have a big fight in the field sometimes.. You know, like those guys who would fight on the roads in Arathi Basin in WoW lol.

    The thing is, that solo you can't really affect the map and contribute to win a campaign. I was grabbing resources solo for a while, would find pvp that way sometimes. But you know, some players want to run in a bigger group so they can make difference. Or get more AP or get emp. All I'm saying, in my experience it was almost impossible to find a group in DC.

    And whoever said I think wrong. Uhm, no, I can't think wrong. I also know from experience that players want to join established group that are somehow ALREADY big when they join xD

    And no, it's not about making mistakes. It's about not being able to even start a group consistently in the first place.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Artis wrote: »
    Go solo and see what news arrives at zone chat and go for that hotspot. I have done soloing for less than a month and it did helpme a lot, I was able to learn new tricks from it.

    Basically what I want to say is "Soloing is the key to learn your character"
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    That's what I've been doing for a while. Got bored pretty quick. I couldn't defend a keep or take a keep if no one else would go there. And groups would rather go have a big fight in the field sometimes.. You know, like those guys who would fight on the roads in Arathi Basin in WoW lol.

    The thing is, that solo you can't really affect the map and contribute to win a campaign. I was grabbing resources solo for a while, would find pvp that way sometimes. But you know, some players want to run in a bigger group so they can make difference. Or get more AP or get emp. All I'm saying, in my experience it was almost impossible to find a group in DC.

    And whoever said I think wrong. Uhm, no, I can't think wrong. I also know from experience that players want to join established group that are somehow ALREADY big when they join xD

    And no, it's not about making mistakes. It's about not being able to even start a group consistently in the first place.

    Do you lead groups at the moment? - either PUG or Guild...
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  • RoamingRiverElk
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    [posted in the wrong thread :p]
    Edited by RoamingRiverElk on April 20, 2016 8:10AM
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  • Artis
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    Artis wrote: »
    Go solo and see what news arrives at zone chat and go for that hotspot. I have done soloing for less than a month and it did helpme a lot, I was able to learn new tricks from it.

    Basically what I want to say is "Soloing is the key to learn your character"
    .

    That's what I've been doing for a while. Got bored pretty quick. I couldn't defend a keep or take a keep if no one else would go there. And groups would rather go have a big fight in the field sometimes.. You know, like those guys who would fight on the roads in Arathi Basin in WoW lol.

    The thing is, that solo you can't really affect the map and contribute to win a campaign. I was grabbing resources solo for a while, would find pvp that way sometimes. But you know, some players want to run in a bigger group so they can make difference. Or get more AP or get emp. All I'm saying, in my experience it was almost impossible to find a group in DC.

    And whoever said I think wrong. Uhm, no, I can't think wrong. I also know from experience that players want to join established group that are somehow ALREADY big when they join xD

    And no, it's not about making mistakes. It's about not being able to even start a group consistently in the first place.

    Do you lead groups at the moment? - either PUG or Guild...

    No, I haven't PvPed after TG release. Running solo got boring real quick, following a bigger group that wouldn't invite you anyway wasn't that fun too. You never know where they teleport next. I think I'll give it another shot soon and try to find more friends in /z to run with :)
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Artis wrote: »
    Artis wrote: »
    Go solo and see what news arrives at zone chat and go for that hotspot. I have done soloing for less than a month and it did helpme a lot, I was able to learn new tricks from it.

    Basically what I want to say is "Soloing is the key to learn your character"
    .

    That's what I've been doing for a while. Got bored pretty quick. I couldn't defend a keep or take a keep if no one else would go there. And groups would rather go have a big fight in the field sometimes.. You know, like those guys who would fight on the roads in Arathi Basin in WoW lol.

    The thing is, that solo you can't really affect the map and contribute to win a campaign. I was grabbing resources solo for a while, would find pvp that way sometimes. But you know, some players want to run in a bigger group so they can make difference. Or get more AP or get emp. All I'm saying, in my experience it was almost impossible to find a group in DC.

    And whoever said I think wrong. Uhm, no, I can't think wrong. I also know from experience that players want to join established group that are somehow ALREADY big when they join xD

    And no, it's not about making mistakes. It's about not being able to even start a group consistently in the first place.

    Do you lead groups at the moment? - either PUG or Guild...

    No, I haven't PvPed after TG release. Running solo got boring real quick, following a bigger group that wouldn't invite you anyway wasn't that fun too. You never know where they teleport next. I think I'll give it another shot soon and try to find more friends in /z to run with :)

    In that case I recommend that you not try to tell people who do lead groups regularly what it is and isn't about OR how it should or shouldn't be done. Until you have experienced what it is to lead on the regular, you really have no idea.

    If you are AD and need a guild/group to PVP with, contact me in-game and I'll sort ya out.
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  • Zenetrax
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    Invite those LFG players and lead your own group so you can stop whining about it ;) You remind me of the guy yesterday crying about players soloing and not grouping up for raids and stuff to win campaign.
  • Bramir
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    I used to start PUGs when there wasn't run running, but there usually is one or two for Trueflame EP these days, which suits me just fine. I'd rather fight than invite.

    TS is pointless for PUGs. The few times I have joined its just quiet or unrelated chatting. There are a lot of EP players that regularly join PUGs that really don't need someone to tell them what to do or where to go, at least for defensive purposes. PUG leaders that insist on TS are selling their faction short.
  • forzajuve212
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    Satiar wrote: »
    There's a lot of unpolished jewels to be found in zone chat. I still have members in VE I pulled out of zone chat who stayed with and became pillars of the guild.

    It's hard work but someone has to do it. Than you improve and slow recruiting/pug herding, and someone else raises the banner.

    It just sounds like that cycle has stopped altogether on AD

    @Satiar

    Like I said earlier, every time I have openings in group, I type a message in zone saying there is a PVP guild group and to join you must have TS. What ends up happening is none of the pugs want to join because they dont want to use TS. Not my problem If people refuse to use TS, you cannot PVP competitively without it so there is no way I am inviting people who dont have it.

    I still try and pick up from zone from time to time but it is hard to when they are unwilling to use TS.
  • Bramir
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    Satiar wrote: »
    There's a lot of unpolished jewels to be found in zone chat. I still have members in VE I pulled out of zone chat who stayed with and became pillars of the guild.

    It's hard work but someone has to do it. Than you improve and slow recruiting/pug herding, and someone else raises the banner.

    It just sounds like that cycle has stopped altogether on AD

    @Satiar

    Like I said earlier, every time I have openings in group, I type a message in zone saying there is a PVP guild group and to join you must have TS. What ends up happening is none of the pugs want to join because they dont want to use TS. Not my problem If people refuse to use TS, you cannot PVP competitively without it so there is no way I am inviting people who dont have it.

    I still try and pick up from zone from time to time but it is hard to when they are unwilling to use TS.

    You are being foolish if you are insisting on TS for PUGs. For the most part the people who want to use teamspeak are already in a non-PUG that is using it. PUGs will effectively defend your territory and add numbers to offensive sieges once they start without TS...it is literally an unnecessary distraction and CPU drain.
  • forzajuve212
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    Bramir wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    There's a lot of unpolished jewels to be found in zone chat. I still have members in VE I pulled out of zone chat who stayed with and became pillars of the guild.

    It's hard work but someone has to do it. Than you improve and slow recruiting/pug herding, and someone else raises the banner.

    It just sounds like that cycle has stopped altogether on AD

    @Satiar

    Like I said earlier, every time I have openings in group, I type a message in zone saying there is a PVP guild group and to join you must have TS. What ends up happening is none of the pugs want to join because they dont want to use TS. Not my problem If people refuse to use TS, you cannot PVP competitively without it so there is no way I am inviting people who dont have it.

    I still try and pick up from zone from time to time but it is hard to when they are unwilling to use TS.

    You are being foolish if you are insisting on TS for PUGs. For the most part the people who want to use teamspeak are already in a non-PUG that is using it. PUGs will effectively defend your territory and add numbers to offensive sieges once they start without TS...it is literally an unnecessary distraction and CPU drain.

    No I'm not, I'm not part a PUG guild, I'm part of an organized competitive PVP guild. I'm not gonna sacrifice the competitiveness of my group just because people cant download TS. It really isn't that difficult. TS is the way that the leader gives orders and if you aren't listening to orders in TS, then you cannot be part of the group. Any competitive PVP guild here will say the same things I am saying.

    People complain about not being able to find a good PVP guild and then when the good PVP guilds ask for TS, they ignore it lol.

    Edited by forzajuve212 on April 21, 2016 3:37PM
  • Bramir
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    Bramir wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    There's a lot of unpolished jewels to be found in zone chat. I still have members in VE I pulled out of zone chat who stayed with and became pillars of the guild.

    It's hard work but someone has to do it. Than you improve and slow recruiting/pug herding, and someone else raises the banner.

    It just sounds like that cycle has stopped altogether on AD

    @Satiar

    Like I said earlier, every time I have openings in group, I type a message in zone saying there is a PVP guild group and to join you must have TS. What ends up happening is none of the pugs want to join because they dont want to use TS. Not my problem If people refuse to use TS, you cannot PVP competitively without it so there is no way I am inviting people who dont have it.

    I still try and pick up from zone from time to time but it is hard to when they are unwilling to use TS.

    You are being foolish if you are insisting on TS for PUGs. For the most part the people who want to use teamspeak are already in a non-PUG that is using it. PUGs will effectively defend your territory and add numbers to offensive sieges once they start without TS...it is literally an unnecessary distraction and CPU drain.

    No I'm not, I'm not part a PUG guild, I'm part of an organized competitive PVP guild. I'm not gonna sacrifice the competitiveness of my group just because people cant download TS. It really isn't that difficult. TS is the way that the leader gives orders and if you aren't listening to orders in TS, then you cannot be part of the group. Any competitive PVP guild here will say the same things I am saying.

    People complain about not being able to find a good PVP guild and then when the good PVP guilds ask for TS, they ignore it lol.

    Then you should stop complaining about people not joining your groups...there is a reason for it.

    I remember back after launch all these guilds were advertising their squads in zone chat as 'hardcore organized pvp guild' when there was really nothing hardcore or organized about them. I think every PvP guild considers themselves hardcore/organized, when in reality most are on the same level of the PUGs they so disdain.
  •  Jules
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    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

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  • Nogawd
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    Some LFG players?

    "Get off the flag and help siege the tower!"

    "Off the flag"

    "GET OFF THE DARN FLAG!!!!!!"

    Though, when they go into the tower and die from the farm, it can be kind of funny. Eh, maybe not.

  • Artis
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    Artis wrote: »
    Artis wrote: »
    Go solo and see what news arrives at zone chat and go for that hotspot. I have done soloing for less than a month and it did helpme a lot, I was able to learn new tricks from it.

    Basically what I want to say is "Soloing is the key to learn your character"
    .

    That's what I've been doing for a while. Got bored pretty quick. I couldn't defend a keep or take a keep if no one else would go there. And groups would rather go have a big fight in the field sometimes.. You know, like those guys who would fight on the roads in Arathi Basin in WoW lol.

    The thing is, that solo you can't really affect the map and contribute to win a campaign. I was grabbing resources solo for a while, would find pvp that way sometimes. But you know, some players want to run in a bigger group so they can make difference. Or get more AP or get emp. All I'm saying, in my experience it was almost impossible to find a group in DC.

    And whoever said I think wrong. Uhm, no, I can't think wrong. I also know from experience that players want to join established group that are somehow ALREADY big when they join xD

    And no, it's not about making mistakes. It's about not being able to even start a group consistently in the first place.

    Do you lead groups at the moment? - either PUG or Guild...

    No, I haven't PvPed after TG release. Running solo got boring real quick, following a bigger group that wouldn't invite you anyway wasn't that fun too. You never know where they teleport next. I think I'll give it another shot soon and try to find more friends in /z to run with :)

    In that case I recommend that you not try to tell people who do lead groups regularly what it is and isn't about OR how it should or shouldn't be done. Until you have experienced what it is to lead on the regular, you really have no idea.

    If you are AD and need a guild/group to PVP with, contact me in-game and I'll sort ya out.

    dude, are you even reading me? I would like to run a group regularly. It appeared to be not possible in DC.

    I see you're AD. In that case, I recommend you not to try to tell people who did try to start groups in DC regularly how it should or shouldnt' be done in AD.
    I still try and pick up from zone from time to time but it is hard to when they are unwilling to use TS.

    I'm wondering what they want then, because I assumed, like you, that casuals dont' want TS, so I tried to start groups without even mentioning it. Still people wouldn't ask for inv or leave when they see that a group is not big.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    UPDATE:

    So we ran a small guild group on Wednesday Night (Oceanic)..... we opened the group to zone once we had 4-5 guildies.

    I ended getting 6-7 peeps from Zone, most of whom jumped in TS and stayed with the group. There were a few squirrel moments, but nothing too major.... we even sieged a keep!!!! - with actual siege.

    We got wiped and did some wiping, a good time was had all around.... believe it or not, we even made a little AP..

    Best of all we got a new friend and guildy from the exercise.

    Anyone else gonna take the PUG bullet for the Dominion???
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  • Satiar
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    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

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  • zyk
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    Satiar wrote: »
    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    Obviously the time for AD VE has come!
  • Satiar
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    zyk wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    Obviously the time for AD VE has come!

    I just think it's a strange sentiment to see from Jules, seeing as EP is extremely populated and has multiple guilds (including large pick up groups like this thread describes).
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  • heystreethawk
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    As a yeller, the consistently active AD guilds I know of that would fit the bill are:

    Arcane Council (Haderus mostly)
    Dominant Dominion (Had mostly? Seen on TF last two times I've run groups tho)
    Fantasia (rehomed Trueflame as of last night)
    Vexed (Had?)

    and then there are a few guilds I am unfortunately ignorant regarding the name/location/structure thereof, but I will list at them here because safety first: Frogblast and the Tadpole Cannons (TF), Fat Grim Reaper's Dream of the Deep Fried Scythe (TF?), High Latency (TF Oceanic time?), Telel's Famous Traveling Wolf-em-Up Jazz Band (Had?), Durruthy's Grrrroup (TF?), and I believe Unexpected Allies is the only group I've seen picking people up from zone (TF). Yellow has.... A lot of people on Haderus, but it's mostly a "yolo in numbers" scene.
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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    By competitive, I assume you mean Guilds in line with VE, Hax, KHole etc.... Rage is gone, Vic is basically gone.... some of the Had guilds are popping up in TF to get away from the AD hoard there, but it's pretty grim tbh.

    Even the once thriving Oceanic time slot is pretty sparse.... it's either you have a medium sized group, but there are no groups to fight OR you have a small group and get zerged the *&^% down! Basically Zerg or be Zerged which is sad.
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  • forzajuve212
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    As a yeller, the consistently active AD guilds I know of that would fit the bill are:

    Arcane Council (Haderus mostly)
    Dominant Dominion (Had mostly? Seen on TF last two times I've run groups tho)
    Fantasia (rehomed Trueflame as of last night)
    Vexed (Had?)

    and then there are a few guilds I am unfortunately ignorant regarding the name/location/structure thereof, but I will list at them here because safety first: Frogblast and the Tadpole Cannons (TF), Fat Grim Reaper's Dream of the Deep Fried Scythe (TF?), High Latency (TF Oceanic time?), Telel's Famous Traveling Wolf-em-Up Jazz Band (Had?), Durruthy's Grrrroup (TF?), and I believe Unexpected Allies is the only group I've seen picking people up from zone (TF). Yellow has.... A lot of people on Haderus, but it's mostly a "yolo in numbers" scene.

    Only two more I can think of:

    DIG and Cav, not sure what they are up to now or how they run though
  • apostate9
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    Erynyes wrote: »
    i'd say it's about the same on EP side, i usually run in small group with my buddies, we're a small guild of decent players like blade spirit, ishkashi, etc, who get emp often. When they are not online i end up playin solo, no one ever inv , it's all we're a closed guild serious bizzness BS, i don't even bother anymore, just doin my stuff solo, no guild recruiting anymore, they just all dying slowly, same with every faction, not taking in new blood and losing old timers with no one to replace them

    Dude.

    TEAM.

    SPEAK.

    Get it. Use it. Other guild raids will give you a chance, don't say they won't. I have had Blade Spirit in our group so I know some of your pals came to terms with Teamspeak.

    EP guilds these days are willing to pick up pugs that demonstrate even a room temp IQ.

  • apostate9
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    Random players in group > increased chance that someone dies > VD explosion > more players die > more VD explosions > everyone dies


    VD does not chain react. So...yeah. Pugs not your problem. Problem may exist between chair and keyboard.

  • Astanphaeus
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    There are AD on Trueflame? Where?
  • Septimus_Magna
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Random players in group > increased chance that someone dies > VD explosion > more players die > more VD explosions > everyone dies


    VD does not chain react. So...yeah. Pugs not your problem. Problem may exist between chair and keyboard.

    VD deals dmg when someone dies which helps to kill everyone in the group.
    My statement was a little simplified but you cannot deny that its risky with unskilled players in your group.

    We usually run a 16-24 man group on Trueflame EU and fight groups 2-4 times our size.
    Even if someone has the required amount of HP and proper gear it can still be dangerous to run with inexperienced players. The VD explosion is high AOE dmg that comes on top of high burst dmg which caused the player to die.

    PUGs are a problem if you run a coordinated group, we wipe hundreds of them each day so its no like I dont know what Im talking about.
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  • Ghostbane
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    UPDATE:

    So we ran a small guild group on Wednesday Night (Oceanic)..... we opened the group to zone once we had 4-5 guildies.

    I ended getting 6-7 peeps from Zone, most of whom jumped in TS and stayed with the group. There were a few squirrel moments, but nothing too major.... we even sieged a keep!!!! - with actual siege.

    We got wiped and did some wiping, a good time was had all around.... believe it or not, we even made a little AP..

    Best of all we got a new friend and guildy from the exercise.

    Anyone else gonna take the PUG bullet for the Dominion???

    What is this nonsense !?
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  • Satiar
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    By competitive, I assume you mean Guilds in line with VE, Hax, KHole etc.... Rage is gone, Vic is basically gone.... some of the Had guilds are popping up in TF to get away from the AD hoard there, but it's pretty grim tbh.

    Even the once thriving Oceanic time slot is pretty sparse.... it's either you have a medium sized group, but there are no groups to fight OR you have a small group and get zerged the *&^% down! Basically Zerg or be Zerged which is sad.

    You assumed correctly. And yeah, Rage leaving to BDO was a killer in that department.
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  • Rylana
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    By competitive, I assume you mean Guilds in line with VE, Hax, KHole etc.... Rage is gone, Vic is basically gone.... some of the Had guilds are popping up in TF to get away from the AD hoard there, but it's pretty grim tbh.

    Even the once thriving Oceanic time slot is pretty sparse.... it's either you have a medium sized group, but there are no groups to fight OR you have a small group and get zerged the *&^% down! Basically Zerg or be Zerged which is sad.

    You assumed correctly. And yeah, Rage leaving to BDO was a killer in that department.

    GoS also left for BDO, so that balanced that out EP-wise. I mean theres a handful left behind in DR and Invictus, but the bulk of that EP guild is gone probably for good.

    BDO really hurt the competitive community, but that is Zenimax's fault really, if the game performed better they would still be here.
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Reroll. AD has enough anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIZ--gVjtE

    I'm curious, how many competitive guilds do you think AD has?

    it feels like theres about 4 now days :\
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