AD faction on TrueFlame very selfish, wont invite LFg players.

Reevster

See Title ^^

EsoRecon

cry about it

Lexxypwns

Crown is gone right?

Wasn't his leadership basically what held AD together all these months?

Reevster

Actually its the only time is 2 years of playing I don't want to be AD anymore... its really sad , then they cry about not beening able to take a keep etc, but lots of players lfg... self defeating.

Wollust

So what stops you from starting a LFG group?

forzajuve212

PC NA AD?

Reevster

forzajuve212 wrote: »

PC NA AD?

Right, I am ashamed to be AD this day...

God_flakes

Time to reroll, gentleman. DC needs you. Jauriel needs you.

forzajuve212

For the short time I've run on TF, i've been advertising my group with TS required and be at least VR1. The problem is, no one wants to use TS and no one wants to hear anything about a group level cap. Anytime I've posted that message in zone in both Haderus and Trueflame, people have called me rude and elitist.

In general though I agree, tons of LFG and not enough groups. That shouldn't stop you from starting a pug group though without Ts or anything, just start a group and fight at the same general location, no orders really required.

Ghostbane

Jura23 wrote: »

When I'm in Cyro, I often see guild raids running around and on the same time ppl begging for invite in zone chat. And those are often also good players that are high in the ranking, but they usually won't get an invite. What's the problem? And if you are a guild raider, do you invite random ppl to your group too?

Ghostbane wrote: »

This is like a football coach saying "yes" to a randomer in the car park asking if he can play. The randomer could be a football god, or a guaranteed disaster.

Guild groups core are normally people who constantly play with one another. Everyone knows their job, and what not to do. They know the calls, and what is expected of them.

Guilds also normally don't take randomers because they have their own waiting list within the guild itself. Jimmy the Templar is just back from vacation, 2 weeks of his kids melting his face, just got past the Azura's Q of 300+ and the guild group is still full. Can't wait to hop in. Spot opens, Walter the Nightblade gets it from zone.

Naturally upset, Jimmy starts eating a lot more bread and cookies than he needs too, over time he is drastically overweight. His wife leaves him as she can't stand the flatulence, the kids won't speak to him because he looks like Santa Claus and never has any presents.

Every time I see a pile of LFG's in zone, and people complaining about no groups. I always remind them with, "Think of Jimmy and start your own *** group"

PainfulFAFA

The only AD on tf are the 1vXers or closed guild groups. If youve ever led a pug, youd know why nobody will lead one ever again. Ive led pugs in EP and AD and i said nvr again.
I much better off playing how i want and quite frankly, nobody gives a damn about campaign scores lol

Bfish22090

Ghostbane wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

When I'm in Cyro, I often see guild raids running around and on the same time ppl begging for invite in zone chat. And those are often also good players that are high in the ranking, but they usually won't get an invite. What's the problem? And if you are a guild raider, do you invite random ppl to your group too?

Ghostbane wrote: »

This is like a football coach saying "yes" to a randomer in the car park asking if he can play. The randomer could be a football god, or a guaranteed disaster.

Guild groups core are normally people who constantly play with one another. Everyone knows their job, and what not to do. They know the calls, and what is expected of them.

Guilds also normally don't take randomers because they have their own waiting list within the guild itself. Jimmy the Templar is just back from vacation, 2 weeks of his kids melting his face, just got past the Azura's Q of 300+ and the guild group is still full. Can't wait to hop in. Spot opens, Walter the Nightblade gets it from zone.

Naturally upset, Jimmy starts eating a lot more bread and cookies than he needs too, over time he is drastically overweight. His wife leaves him as she can't stand the flatulence, the kids won't speak to him because he looks like Santa Claus and never has any presents.

Every time I see a pile of LFG's in zone, and people complaining about no groups. I always remind them with, "Think of Jimmy and start your own *** group"

lol stahp ghostbane

Valencer

Start your own LFG group or don't complain about it. Expecting others to keep a LFG group afloat while you yourself aren't willing to take on that burden is the really selfish thing here.

kevlarto_ESO

I only play AD and we have only had leadership a few times during it's history since launch, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to lead AD, just watch the chat when anyone tries to help lead the faction, chat gets toxic an nasty toward them, hard to play a faction based game when the faction does not want to play together.

Minno

God_flakes wrote: »

Time to reroll, gentleman. DC needs you. Jauriel needs you.

She already got me to come back for free pvp. DC needs those AD and EP to be unorganized so we can enjoy the tasy AP.

DHale

We invite ppl to group but many refuse to get on team speak. It's not really optional anymore AD has always been kind of rebellious and will go to Alesia bridge even though you get less ap than actually defending Alessia keep. Also many ppl that lfg think they don't need to repair walls or buy siege. They also think they are the next sypher trying to one v x very good players who stomp them. Then they get upset that the game is not balanced or they have more cp than me or they are using Marcos or have more cp or using "broken skills or exploits". My favorite is I could have killed them but they have more cp than me. Don't be those AD. Then guild leaders don't want to take a chance. Prove you want to contribute to the team and not be known for your afk and zone chat prowess.

Pchela

Pug herding isn't easy. It's hard to get people in one group all in the same spot and to follow directions even in type chat. Much easier in TS but even then you still get group members at aleswell while most of your group is asked to be elsewhere. I don't blame people for not starting PUG, it's not easy... But on the other hand kudos to those who can wrangle and keep doing it day after day. Get in group and work as a group. Give new leaders a chance to learn and make mistakes. That's how you learn.

RadioheadSh0t

No group is under any obligation to accept any LFG players.

If you are so interested in herding cats, do it yourself.

frozywozy

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

No group is under any obligation to accept any LFG players.

If you are so interested in herding cats, do it yourself.

lol

Zheg

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

No group is under any obligation to accept any LFG players.

If you are so interested in herding cats, do it yourself.

Literally. All of those khajiits trying to RP...

zyk

A lack of pick up groups does not make an entire faction selfish. It means that when you were playing, there may have been a PUG leadership void. Did you consider filling it?

Personally, I'd rather play solo among other players than play in a poorly/loosely organized group. Without competent leadership and buy-in from the other members, groups are inherently less intelligent than individuals.

On the subject of TS, I resisted it for a long time. It can be really annoying to listen to. However, in a game as fast paced as ESO PVP, it is essential IMO.

failkiwib16_ESO

...I lead a pug group once. (PC/EU)

BIG BOSS fell asleep or got distracted by catnip or something, he went offline and the person who had lead didn't really want it, since no one els stepped up ..I did.

Soon I became the leader of cannibalistic midgets, fluffy kittens and big booby elves, each riding a mount slower than the other, it was 4am and The Pact ran us over and over like the mongol horde.

We were defending our last keep, but we where slaughterd and had a long trip back to it ....when I spotted a good pvp player in zone. I whispered and begged him to give us an advice, and he yelled in zonechat "THOSE STUPID NORDS - REPAIR THE WALLS".
I ordered my army of midgets, fluffballs & gigglyboobs to repair the walls, and so they did - as the only successfull thing we did manage under my questiounable leadership, we could finally spawn near our enemies.

We still got slaughtered. The mongol horde of EP ran us over and took even our last hope and keep, but I would like to think that we did accomplish something right, even though everything els went bloody wrong.

#TooManySoulgemsWhereLostThatNightQQ

Vangy

The only thing im ashamed of is the OP's thread....

1. LFG LFG LFG LFG
2. No one invite
3. Instead of trying to start my own group, I blame the world for my troubles. Waaah waah.


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Bofrari

Vangy wrote: »

The only thing im ashamed of is the OP's thread....

1. LFG LFG LFG LFG
2. No one invite
3. Instead of trying to start my own group, I blame the world for my troubles. Waaah waah.


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Hahaha this is so true. The reason they don't want to invite you is 90% of the time a lfg person is horrible in pvp I don't blame them join a PvP guild and get gud like everyone else.

RadioheadSh0t

Zheg wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

No group is under any obligation to accept any LFG players.

If you are so interested in herding cats, do it yourself.

Literally. All of those khajiits trying to RP...

That's the joke As someone who ran LFG AD groups in beta and at least twice a week for the first 6-8 months after launch, I can say it's not fun.

This one does not use team speak because immurshun

This one wants to be in a group, but Khajiit does not follow orders well

PhatGrimReaper

The Reason nobody wants to run PUGs for AD.............

"LFG"

-invited-

"Please jump in TS and stay with the group"

-at Ash in stealth while group is sieging Alessia..... still not in TS-

"Hey new guy, Please jump in TS and stay with the group"

-at Ash in stealth while the group rides back to Alessia farm after being wiped by Haxus -

"Hey new guy, PLEASE jump in TS and stay with the group OR at the very least, stick with the group"

-While still sitting at Ash in stealth....."you don't pay my sub zergbaddie"-

-Kicked-

1min later in Zone...."Why'd you kick me from group you elitist piece of @#$%? ".................

KenaPKK

Rerolling is not the answer.

Nor is chastising @Reevster or other LFG players for trying to join organized groups led by players more experienced than themselves, or for not starting their own group. You don't know him or the others. He may be inexperienced and trying to learn PvP. He may simply not want to lead. Shame on anyone who talks down to LFG players and groups.

The solution is for a couple of experienced players in AD and the other factions to step up and run instructional LFG groups.

The most significant factor separating a pug from a member of a guild groups is discipline.

New or inexperienced players aren't going to teach themselves, and honestly, with the breakdown of many organized guilds recently, we need new groups to spring up.

PainfulFAFA

KenaPKK wrote: »

Rerolling is not the answer.

Nor is chastising @Reevster or other LFG players for trying to join organized groups led by players more experienced than themselves, or for not starting their own group. You don't know him or the others. He may be inexperienced and trying to learn PvP. He may simply not want to lead. Shame on anyone who talks down to LFG players and groups.

The solution is for a couple of experienced players in AD and the other factions to step up and run instructional LFG groups.

The most significant factor separating a pug from a member of a guild groups is discipline.

New or inexperienced players aren't going to teach themselves, and honestly, with the breakdown of many organized guilds recently, we need new groups to spring up.

Nobody taught me anything about this game. Had to start from scratch and actually play the game.

KenaPKK

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Rerolling is not the answer.

Nor is chastising @Reevster or other LFG players for trying to join organized groups led by players more experienced than themselves, or for not starting their own group. You don't know him or the others. He may be inexperienced and trying to learn PvP. He may simply not want to lead. Shame on anyone who talks down to LFG players and groups.

The solution is for a couple of experienced players in AD and the other factions to step up and run instructional LFG groups.

The most significant factor separating a pug from a member of a guild groups is discipline.

New or inexperienced players aren't going to teach themselves, and honestly, with the breakdown of many organized guilds recently, we need new groups to spring up.

Nobody taught me anything about this game. Had to start from scratch and actually play the game.

Same, but that takes initiative and intelligence and observation. Not all people are capable of self-teaching or want to do it.

Also that takes a long time. We need a change soon.

zyk

Somebody calling out an entire faction as selfish because no one was running a group he could benefit from deserves a little flak. It reeks of entitlement. Reevster may be a great human being, player and a god among men, but he was wrong to lash out in this way.

No one should run a group unless it's something they enjoy and want to do, otherwise the group won't be fun for anyone.

If there happens to be no one running PUGs on a campaign, no one is responsible for that. Either step up and do it yourself or deal with it.

Laggus

Theres groups?