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Drishtan
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Please make Proxy an Ultimate.

Solves a lot of Problems such as Stam builds not having access to a similar skill since ultimates are based on higher of spell or weapon damage.

Please Comment @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • kuro-dono
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    Drishtan wrote: »
    Please make Proxy an Ultimate.

    Solves a lot of Problems such as Stam builds not having access to a similar skill since ultimates are based on higher of spell or weapon damage.

    Please Comment @ZOS_GinaBruno

    even better solution> bring soft caps so ppl dont need to minmax so bloody hella lot to get spell power to billions or weapon power. that way the dmg burst wont get out of control for either spell or weapon and then ppl wont end up crying about one skill from one type being so much stronker than any other option +++ make aoe work instead of having choo choos
  • mchermie
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    Even better solution -> Remove AoE-caps
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    The real solution to proxy is to have the damage decrease in value for each allied target within its radius, to prevent zergs from utilizing what's supposed to be a zerg buster. This would allow for tactful play where you have members split from groups to pincer/collapse on clusters of players while reducing lag from having dozens of proxies being cast and going off.

    Or you know, removing AoE caps.
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  • Taonnor
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    kuro-dono wrote: »

    even better solution> bring soft caps so ppl dont need to minmax so bloody hella lot to get spell power to billions or weapon power. that way the dmg burst wont get out of control for either spell or weapon and then ppl wont end up crying about one skill from one type being so much stronker than any other option +++ make aoe work instead of having choo choos

    No soft caps. I am happy without, because no more builds with all maxed (Totally dump).
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  • Wollust
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    1. Bring back soft caps, dynamic ultimate and remove AoE caps
    2. Remove Proxy and Vicious Death
    3. ???
    4. Profit
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  • bitaken
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    Dynamic ulti please!!!!

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  • Kartalin
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    Taonnor wrote: »

    No soft caps. I am happy without, because no more builds with all maxed (Totally dump).
    Soft caps would likely reintroduce the concept of build diversity. And this time we won't all be using sticks and dresses.
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  • Taonnor
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    Soft caps would likely reintroduce the concept of build diversity. And this time we won't all be using sticks and dresses.

    There was no build diversity. All running with same builds, because stats where easy hit soft caps. All running with light armor, tanks too... For example 3x cyro light, 5x magnus, 2x blood spawn, 2x torugs. Totally dump.
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Just wait for DarkBrotherhood, many big things are going to happen. How do i know well..... lets just say i know someone on the inside.
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    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on April 18, 2016 5:02PM
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  • Kwivur
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    Wollust wrote: »
    1. Bring back soft caps, dynamic ultimate and remove AoE caps
    2. Remove Proxy and Vicious Death underpants
    3. ???
    4. Profit

  • KenaPKK
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    mchermie wrote: »
    Even better solution -> Remove AoE-caps

    ^

    And prox and VD.

    kuro-dono wrote: »

    even better solution> bring soft caps so ppl dont need to minmax so bloody hella lot to get spell power to billions or weapon power. that way the dmg burst wont get out of control for either spell or weapon and then ppl wont end up crying about one skill from one type being so much stronker than any other option +++ make aoe work instead of having choo choos

    Damage without proxy, VD, and siege in the mix is actually in a pretty good place right now in my opinion. Siege damage is meant to be high, but proxy and VD are terribly overtuned to compensate for having low AoE caps.

    Honestly, I don't care that scrub mageblades are running around one shotting groups who clump up in the radius of Tether. More mageblade'mageblades fail than succeed, and there's plenty of counterplay to a bomb. My biggest problem with proxy is the insane damage it does single target.
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  • Lexxypwns
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    KenaPKK wrote: »

    ^

    And prox and VD.


    Damage without proxy, VD, and siege in the mix is actually in a pretty good place right now in my opinion. Siege damage is meant to be high, but proxy and VD are terribly overtuned to compensate for having low AoE caps.

    Honestly, I don't care that scrub mageblades are running around one shotting groups who clump up in the radius of Tether. More mageblade'mageblades fail than succeed, and there's plenty of counterplay to a bomb. My biggest problem with proxy is the insane damage it does single target.

    There's no real counterplay to getting bombed except build to survive it. Basically its a coin toss, does bomber manage to catch you at 60% health with det+tether, if so you probably die, if not then he does.
  • RebornV3x
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    They just need to remove it from the game at this point giving this ability to just about everyone was a bad decision should have kept it the same I guess if it isn't broke don't fix it applies.
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  • KenaPKK
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »

    There's no real counterplay to getting bombed except build to survive it. Basically its a coin toss, does bomber manage to catch you at 60% health with det+tether, if so you probably die, if not then he does.

    ...

    You could also try spreading out (proxy and tether are rather small AoEs, and VD is tiny), blocking, running Harness, running impen, and keeping distance from careless players who don't keep their guards up.
    Edited by KenaPKK on April 18, 2016 6:30PM
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    WTB soft caps and no aoe caps
  • Elong
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    Some of you just need to run more health :)
  • Ghost-Shot
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    Elong wrote: »
    Some of you just need to run more health :)

    You get out of here with your perma-blocking magicka templar!
  • Minno
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    Elong wrote: »
    Some of you just need to run more health :)

    Or play on non-cp.
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    You could remove the ability to stealth or go invisible with proxi det active. This would make it easier to defend against an incoming bomb.

    Then if you want to really stealth bomb, you cannot use proxi. Which is fair in my books. The only difference between stam and magicka bomb is proxi. Take that out of the equation and its a lot more balanced.

    The whole issue with the current VD proxi bombs is its impossible to know its coming. You cant block when your get stunned with Soul Tether into Proxi Combo.

    Feel free to disagree but id much rather this then nerf's.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on April 18, 2016 7:13PM
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  • Elong
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »

    You get out of here with your perma-blocking magicka templar!

    Hahaha.

    Dunno if it's just cos I'm bad, or my constant 300 ping because of where I live, or whatever, but I've had far more success stacking health the last few weeks, and can switch to a dps bar and hit 3k spell damage and 1900 regen.

    Sometimes people have to go against the meta and look for counters to the high dps in this game. Just because a streamer runs with 20k health, doesn't mean any old Joe can pull it off.
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Prox Det got you down? Take shelter in a Templar house!
  • Minno
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    Elong wrote: »

    Hahaha.

    Dunno if it's just cos I'm bad, or my constant 300 ping because of where I live, or whatever, but I've had far more success stacking health the last few weeks, and can switch to a dps bar and hit 3k spell damage and 1900 regen.

    Sometimes people have to go against the meta and look for counters to the high dps in this game. Just because a streamer runs with 20k health, doesn't mean any old Joe can pull it off.

    Always ran 20 points into health with some glyths dedicated to stam/health pre-TG. But when Jaurel asked me to come back, I went full health stack and tbh, its been fun. Total troll build.
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    Minno wrote: »

    Or play on non-cp.

    Ew no
  • Ghost-Shot
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    Elong wrote: »

    Hahaha.

    Dunno if it's just cos I'm bad, or my constant 300 ping because of where I live, or whatever, but I've had far more success stacking health the last few weeks, and can switch to a dps bar and hit 3k spell damage and 1900 regen.

    Sometimes people have to go against the meta and look for counters to the high dps in this game. Just because a streamer runs with 20k health, doesn't mean any old Joe can pull it off.

    Zheg just noticed the other day that in my group spec I have like 19.9k hp, he was not pleased lol
  • Elong
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    Minno wrote: »

    Always ran 20 points into health with some glyths dedicated to stam/health pre-TG. But when Jaurel asked me to come back, I went full health stack and tbh, its been fun. Total troll build.

    I've enjoyed my Templar tank more than any other build I've played, although Stamplar is a hell of a lot of fun if you get on a roll.

    For me, people just need to adapt. Yes, Prox Det probably shouldn't be in the game. Yes, the damage is probably too high in this game. But it's here right now, and it's probably not going to change. Adapt.
  • Minno
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »

    Ew no

    Have you tried it?
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    Minno wrote: »

    Have you tried it?

    Yes
  • kuro-dono
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    ppl just dont get it why pvp is dying?you enter keep, be sure as hell there is one minmaxed aoe bomber to kill everyone who tries to run in + all the sieges, oils, and ballistas, you just need to wish for cristmas when rush in and hope that atleast few make it to top flag before all dead, UNLESS, you pvdoor keep, so no wonder everyone is just sitting at alessia bridge, arrius lumber or chalman milegate, not hard to catch why?

    Players themself killing pvp and zeni by getting these nice awesome builds going on

    sorry, i meant pvp flourish and AvA dead. no need arena at this current meta, just go to one of those openfield arenas to battle.
    Edited by kuro-dono on April 18, 2016 7:27PM
  • Kartalin
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    Taonnor wrote: »

    There was no build diversity. All running with same builds, because stats where easy hit soft caps. All running with light armor, tanks too... For example 3x cyro light, 5x magnus, 2x blood spawn, 2x torugs. Totally dump.

    I thought it was 5 Seducer, 5 Warlock, and Master staves. Are you thinking back far enough?
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    Edited by Kartalin on April 18, 2016 9:20PM
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  • olsborg
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    bring the damage down, and scale it so it hits harder after you hit 3+ ppl, if you hit 1-3 it should hit like a wet noodle ffs

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