Question for ZOS, why no Trials option for the activity finder?

Azurephoenix999

Been looking for people to do Aetherian Archives with literally all night (currently 1:30PM, been on the game since midnight) due to people leaving when they get bored of waiting too long for me to hunt down the last few guys. I can't help but think "man, this would be so much easier if the activity finder could help me".

So far, the activity finder only has options for PVP and Group Delves (as in 4-players). Why is there not an option for the Trials in Craglorn?

I mean, trials are an activity, right? So the Activity Finder's job should be to find me people with whom to do the activity.

Is it because it can't manage sticking 12 players together or something?

emily3989

Have fun with it. Based on my experience with PUG dungeon finders, I don' t think I could mentally handle it upping it to 12 random peeps.

And what would the breakdown be if it was auto like the group finder? (ie: 2 tanks, 4 healer, 6 dps?)

Have fun with that trial where 4 stamina NBs say they are healers on the activity screen, lol.

I imagine it might work, but I don't see myself taking the chance.

NewBlacksmurf

*edit* Do a search prior to creating new threads. There is a lot of good info and usually something we think of already is being discussed unless it's breaking news.

In the prior patch notes around December or so, Trials were removed with the updates to grouping tools because when we had these, they actually didn't work per ZOS so these were removed.

Try doing a search as well as reading the patch notes or dev tracker prior to creating new threads.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2753680/#Comment_2753680

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2520701/#Comment_2520701

AzraelKrieg

Trials will be added to the group finder at some point but because they tend to be very mechanic heavy having a group that knows what to do is a lot easier so most people won't run pug groups in trials.

gr4yrang3r87

This would be an awesome addition if it got added to the finder. Would make finding trial groups so easy. Other MMO's out there can que for raids(trials), I don't see why ESO can't..

itsfatbass

As has already been stated in this post, it was ALREADY in the game and subsequently removed because it was not stable and very buggy.

gr4yrang3r87

jphipps85b14_ESO1 wrote: »

As has already been stated in this post, it was ALREADY in the game and subsequently removed because it was not stable and very buggy.

Well, why not fix it? That's not really a reason to shut it down. If people can que for large pvp groups, it's only fair that pve can can do the same.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

let me ask you this... do you like the current dungeon finder?

gr4yrang3r87

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

let me ask you this... do you like the current dungeon finder?

I think it gets the job done. I've already geared out a tank and healer in vet runs and don't mind running trials just for the fun of it. Having to go all the way out to Crags just to find a trials group is a little tedious.

I can understand if there wasn't enough people queuing or their being a funding issue but just some bugs and instability?

Kel

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

let me ask you this... do you like the current dungeon finder?

I mean, pug trials are really no diffrent from using a group finder tool. You just have to wait longer asking in chat.
I've ran Asylum in pugs many, many times. St. Olms first jump(at 90%) nearly wipes the party everytime...even after you explain he's going to do it.
But if you're saying the finder tool doesn't work half the time, and puts you in phantom queues, you have a point...

Runefang

Bad idea, pugs are bad in general and would be worse in a trial.

Imagine doing the MoL twins in a pug? Non-stop wipes. Groups in discord can't get it right...

Runefang

gr4yrang3r87 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

let me ask you this... do you like the current dungeon finder?

I think it gets the job done. I've already geared out a tank and healer in vet runs and don't mind running trials just for the fun of it. Having to go all the way out to Crags just to find a trials group is a little tedious.

I can understand if there wasn't enough people queuing or their being a funding issue but just some bugs and instability?

All the way to Crags? Like it's further away than anywhere else?

Reverb

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ChuckyPayne

Yes that would be awesome, with restrictions.
- Only in normal mode.
- CP minimum, different in each trial
- Equipement bonus minimum
- Each trial has different requirement (1 tank or 2 tank)
- You need start with the easiest, if u already did it (with lfg or not) u can use lfg on second trial, etc.

gr4yrang3r87

Runefang wrote: »

All the way to Crags? Like it's further away than anywhere else?

Or maybe just expand the chat to be worldwide or have it's own trial finding chat? Something?!?

Onefrkncrzypope

Lol fake tanks ques for trials

gr4yrang3r87

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

Lol fake tanks ques for trials

Haha, /gets kicked by entire group xD

Runefang

gr4yrang3r87 wrote: »

Runefang wrote: »

All the way to Crags? Like it's further away than anywhere else?

Or maybe just expand the chat to be worldwide or have it's own trial finding chat? Something?!?

The only way I could see it working is that in order to join the queue you must have already completed the trial on that character. Having somebody new to a trial in a pug is not a good idea.

An LFT global chat would be nice too. It's boring farming craglorn while waiting for LFM in chat.

dday3six

Because the game lets players make too many bad decisions with regards to their builds.

PlagueSD

It's bad enough coordinating 4 players in a regular dungeon. I'm not about to try with 12.

gronoxvx

Trying to PUG 4 man dungeons is punishing enough as it is, so I cant imagine how rage inducing a trial finder would be.

Bhaal5

Can just imagine the fake tank hate now..... Eso has more than enough salt as it is

Not to mention how long itll take, hard enough finding "4 people"

AbysmalGhul

This is how people become soul-shriven. Is that what you want?

Tasear

I honestly think we should have one again. Having random group finder "working" as allowed diversity to be apart game play. I can tell you four different ways to do final boss in banished cells. There's 3 ways to do coa2 lizard.

It would be hard but I believe just like dungeons we could pass on knowledge and improve. Also would have less dps race tactics and more flexible, and defensive soultions.

Tasear

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Can just imagine the fake tank hate now..... Eso has more than enough salt as it is

Not to mention how long itll take, hard enough finding "4 people"

We have level and skill advisor coming.

Tasear

gr4yrang3r87 wrote: »

Runefang wrote: »

All the way to Crags? Like it's further away than anywhere else?

Or maybe just expand the chat to be worldwide or have it's own trial finding chat? Something?!?

Would also help if chat wasn't instanced.

Bhaal5

Tasear wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Can just imagine the fake tank hate now..... Eso has more than enough salt as it is

Not to mention how long itll take, hard enough finding "4 people"

We have level and skill advisor coming.

Lmao, yes we do. Still wont stop dps queuing as tanks

mocap

Wanna 10 light attack bow spammers, healer and tank? Insta fail.

But i think it's kinda possible:
- only CP 160+ or even 300+;
- trial achievement required;

gr4yrang3r87

mocap wrote: »

Wanna 10 light attack bow spammers, healer and tank? Insta fail.

But i think it's kinda possible:
- only CP 160+ or even 300+;
- trial achievement required;

Trial achievement is kinda pushing it. For vets, yes, but don't make it too hard for the poor noobs xD

gr4yrang3r87

PlagueSD wrote: »

It's bad enough coordinating 4 players in a regular dungeon. I'm not about to try with 12.

You're missing out =P

DPShiro

For normal ones, sure.
For Veteran, NOOOOOOOO.

I’m not even sure about normal, because we will see a huge influx of posts and whining saying they are too hard and needs nerfing etc

Content is already a pushover as it is, we don’t need any more nerfs.