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As someone who has played every iteration of Templar specs, and one of this first to reintroduce the blazing shield build, you'll just have to trust me that if you want the tankiness of a BS build you need to be devoted to it. There is no best of both worlds, if you don't have a minimum high hp pool and enough points in bastion then your shield is paltry. You cannot do that and still do respectable damage with Jesus beam/other magplar features.Don't nerf templar pls. Templars are very fragile, lack mobility, self heals, gap closer, recovery, have the worst passives in the game and need this burst to compensate their lack of defenses. All those 50k magplars growing in numbers lately in Cyrodiil are having a very hard time to kill anybody and need moar buffs. Don't nerf the range of RD or the execute range otherwise templar will go into extinction. thanks Zenimax
Very few of the new blazing shield templars are any good, most just tried to copy someone's build and are no where near adept at it. On a side note, no sane blazing shield templar would dare use jesus beam, so your post just sounds dumb and salty. The whole point to that build is to hit BS every skill or every other skill, you cannot lock yourself into an expensive channel like jesus beam (that will tickle even in execute range given your stats) when you have <= 16k max magicka.
The point of my post is to confirm that templar can look very solid from the outside but are really soft in the inside in reality. There are no ways for a magplar to tank the high burst of damage we have in the meta and RD burst is a great justification to outcome that lack of defense.
I have seen so many great templars getting wrecked by WB spam without any way to counter it, about time Zenimax finally give us a great counter to those shuffle dodge spammers. thanks god
Now they only need to increase the blazing shield spam because it doesn't do anything right now and is not even worth using.
Utilizing a destro staff as Templar helped me to negate the strengths of WB.
You also have jav and mage rune. It's not as instant as a sorc, but same strategy.
Frost staff, despite low dps, gives you one of the best roots to help counter WB users (and its infinate cast so ideally you can root most of the other team to help teammates focus players.)
Only use for BS was go help divert CP towards another defense other than crit resistance. RW was perfect in that you popped it, gained extra shield according to enemies hit, and negated crit.
He plays a DK and is making a poor attempt at sarcasm. He thinks that BS templars do the same dmg as a magplar.
The irony is that most of the things he said sarcastically are in fact true.
I've never said that a tank magplar can do as much damage as a glass cannon magplar. I'm just trying to make people who claim that Wrecking Blow has no counter realize that you can easily counter it if you spec accordingly. You don't need to go full tank build to be able to counter it. There are plenty of videos and proofs of tank magplars surviving for minutes straight in the middle of 15 pugs spamming abilities on him (kinda looks like the old DK bats meta we used to see in Wabbajack). If a tank magplar can tank 15 pugs on him for a long period of time, he can certainly cut down his tankyness for more damage and still be able to survive and mitigate the damage of one guy spamming Wrecking blow. If you don't believe me, go duel @Aenlir on his templar. He runs the perfect build to demonstrate the just middle between tankyness and damage output.
I've struck the 'balance' you talk of on my healer so I could survive this meta and keep my group up, but doing so makes my Jesus beam laughable at high health, which is what every sane Templar has been saying for weeks and still seems to go over your head. People complain about the dmg it COULD do on a glass cannon Templar, and then assume it's the same for every Templar even though hardly anyone goes full glass.
I can guarantee you that if I went to duel aenlir on his Templar the last thing he would do is jesus beam me at high health because he knows it's garbage and he just made himself vulnerable. Again, find me one single skilled Templar that's using it at high health (when not playing a healer and using it as their only dps besides resto heavy attack). Until you can do that, this is an asinine discussion.
So in other words, you're saying that a magplar cannot have great damage while tanking one guy spamming Wrecking Blow? Because that was my point. And everything you just said seem to have nothing to do with it. You should go into politics. Your skills to deviate the main subject are impressive.
A magplar cannot be 'tanky' against a physical dps. They may strafe your WB or LoS it, but they cannot face tank it. Breath/healing ward is more expensive resource wise than WB so you will lose that resource race, not even including the stun from WB. Tanky means you take the damage like a sponge, and that only works on a BS build.
If I'm running from a group and people are focusing me, I can mist form/heal/bats, but after 15 seconds or so I'm tapped of resources and die.
I'm sure the reason you find aenlir 'tanky' is because you aren't landing all your WBs on him, and he's pressuring you with dmg and cc.
Just like when you called BS builds permablockers, I think you're struggling with the definitions of words. But even if you disagree (still), if you can explain how a Templar can be tanky when using a 3 second channel, I'm all ears. No healing, no blocking, no dodge roll ... So what exactly makes that tanky?
I am still unsure if you agree that a templar can tank Wrecking blow spam while having great damage output, forgive me. Btw, ever heard of cleansing ritual and channeled focus?
If you're going to be a **** and pretend like I don't know what channeled focus and ritual are, I'll do the same and assume you're delusional enough to think that the generic armor buff from focus and the tiny regen from ritual actually do anything to make you tanky inside your 'house'.
3 replies, still no answers to a very specific question. And disrespect on top of that. lol, again, just go duel Aenir and you may learn one trick or two.My RD tool tip is something like 9k over 3 seconds. If Frozn is trying to say that's OP on a Blazing Shield build then I worry how he got to such a high rank, because I could heavy attack faster.
Incidentally, I love the new tactic of 5 people RD'ing a target at a time, it's becoming very prevalent. Annoying, but purgeable with one click
as much as I may have cheated to get my high rank, you may have cheated to pass your english classes. Re-read the thread, I never said that a tank magplar can hit hard with RD.
So sick of people twisting my words around.
No, you're saying a Blazing Shield spec would use it, anyone attempting to use it in that spec is very bad is my point, because you are channeling and it doesn't do any damage. Learn to have a laugh Frozn, you're getting saltier by the day.
University entrance at the age of 16 by the way
I never said that a tank magplar should be using RD. Like I said, go read again.
So why bring it up in an RD thread? Seems very off topic and irrelevant and just adds to the impression everyone's getting that you really dislike Templars.
For the third time, go read the thread. Not going to repeat what I've said in the dozen of posts I have here. And stop assuming what I've said without proofs.Edited by frozywozy on April 12, 2016 7:37PMFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
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✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »And hit me up. I'll wreck your best with any class you choose me to play. I have all at v16 and I'm way better than you I promise. hmu in game if you want to be embarrassed you scrub. @pogo
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lol I meant that for Zheg
Who are you? do you play on NA? Cause I've never heard this name before
It's someone that has v16s, and apparently can do a 20k+ WB on the first cast since that and a single Jesus beam will kill me.
"you pointed out that my comment was wrong, 1v1 me brah"
Though I do admit it would be hilarious to respec to trollplar and troll him if he did play on NA.2 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
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As someone who has played every iteration of Templar specs, and one of this first to reintroduce the blazing shield build, you'll just have to trust me that if you want the tankiness of a BS build you need to be devoted to it. There is no best of both worlds, if you don't have a minimum high hp pool and enough points in bastion then your shield is paltry. You cannot do that and still do respectable damage with Jesus beam/other magplar features.Don't nerf templar pls. Templars are very fragile, lack mobility, self heals, gap closer, recovery, have the worst passives in the game and need this burst to compensate their lack of defenses. All those 50k magplars growing in numbers lately in Cyrodiil are having a very hard time to kill anybody and need moar buffs. Don't nerf the range of RD or the execute range otherwise templar will go into extinction. thanks Zenimax
Very few of the new blazing shield templars are any good, most just tried to copy someone's build and are no where near adept at it. On a side note, no sane blazing shield templar would dare use jesus beam, so your post just sounds dumb and salty. The whole point to that build is to hit BS every skill or every other skill, you cannot lock yourself into an expensive channel like jesus beam (that will tickle even in execute range given your stats) when you have <= 16k max magicka.
The point of my post is to confirm that templar can look very solid from the outside but are really soft in the inside in reality. There are no ways for a magplar to tank the high burst of damage we have in the meta and RD burst is a great justification to outcome that lack of defense.
I have seen so many great templars getting wrecked by WB spam without any way to counter it, about time Zenimax finally give us a great counter to those shuffle dodge spammers. thanks god
Now they only need to increase the blazing shield spam because it doesn't do anything right now and is not even worth using.
Utilizing a destro staff as Templar helped me to negate the strengths of WB.
You also have jav and mage rune. It's not as instant as a sorc, but same strategy.
Frost staff, despite low dps, gives you one of the best roots to help counter WB users (and its infinate cast so ideally you can root most of the other team to help teammates focus players.)
Only use for BS was go help divert CP towards another defense other than crit resistance. RW was perfect in that you popped it, gained extra shield according to enemies hit, and negated crit.
He plays a DK and is making a poor attempt at sarcasm. He thinks that BS templars do the same dmg as a magplar.
The irony is that most of the things he said sarcastically are in fact true.
I've never said that a tank magplar can do as much damage as a glass cannon magplar. I'm just trying to make people who claim that Wrecking Blow has no counter realize that you can easily counter it if you spec accordingly. You don't need to go full tank build to be able to counter it. There are plenty of videos and proofs of tank magplars surviving for minutes straight in the middle of 15 pugs spamming abilities on him (kinda looks like the old DK bats meta we used to see in Wabbajack). If a tank magplar can tank 15 pugs on him for a long period of time, he can certainly cut down his tankyness for more damage and still be able to survive and mitigate the damage of one guy spamming Wrecking blow. If you don't believe me, go duel @Aenlir on his templar. He runs the perfect build to demonstrate the just middle between tankyness and damage output.
I've struck the 'balance' you talk of on my healer so I could survive this meta and keep my group up, but doing so makes my Jesus beam laughable at high health, which is what every sane Templar has been saying for weeks and still seems to go over your head. People complain about the dmg it COULD do on a glass cannon Templar, and then assume it's the same for every Templar even though hardly anyone goes full glass.
I can guarantee you that if I went to duel aenlir on his Templar the last thing he would do is jesus beam me at high health because he knows it's garbage and he just made himself vulnerable. Again, find me one single skilled Templar that's using it at high health (when not playing a healer and using it as their only dps besides resto heavy attack). Until you can do that, this is an asinine discussion.
So in other words, you're saying that a magplar cannot have great damage while tanking one guy spamming Wrecking Blow? Because that was my point. And everything you just said seem to have nothing to do with it. You should go into politics. Your skills to deviate the main subject are impressive.
A magplar cannot be 'tanky' against a physical dps. They may strafe your WB or LoS it, but they cannot face tank it. Breath/healing ward is more expensive resource wise than WB so you will lose that resource race, not even including the stun from WB. Tanky means you take the damage like a sponge, and that only works on a BS build.
If I'm running from a group and people are focusing me, I can mist form/heal/bats, but after 15 seconds or so I'm tapped of resources and die.
I'm sure the reason you find aenlir 'tanky' is because you aren't landing all your WBs on him, and he's pressuring you with dmg and cc.
Just like when you called BS builds permablockers, I think you're struggling with the definitions of words. But even if you disagree (still), if you can explain how a Templar can be tanky when using a 3 second channel, I'm all ears. No healing, no blocking, no dodge roll ... So what exactly makes that tanky?
I am still unsure if you agree that a templar can tank Wrecking blow spam while having great damage output, forgive me. Btw, ever heard of cleansing ritual and channeled focus?
If you're going to be a **** and pretend like I don't know what channeled focus and ritual are, I'll do the same and assume you're delusional enough to think that the generic armor buff from focus and the tiny regen from ritual actually do anything to make you tanky inside your 'house'.
3 replies, still no answers to a very specific question. And disrespect on top of that. lol, again, just go duel Aenir and you may learn one trick or two.My RD tool tip is something like 9k over 3 seconds. If Frozn is trying to say that's OP on a Blazing Shield build then I worry how he got to such a high rank, because I could heavy attack faster.
Incidentally, I love the new tactic of 5 people RD'ing a target at a time, it's becoming very prevalent. Annoying, but purgeable with one click
as much as I may have cheated to get my high rank, you may have cheated to pass your english classes. Re-read the thread, I never said that a tank magplar can hit hard with RD.
So sick of people twisting my words around.
No, you're saying a Blazing Shield spec would use it, anyone attempting to use it in that spec is very bad is my point, because you are channeling and it doesn't do any damage. Learn to have a laugh Frozn, you're getting saltier by the day.
University entrance at the age of 16 by the way
I never said that a tank magplar should be using RD. Like I said, go read again.
So why bring it up in an RD thread? Seems very off topic and irrelevant and just adds to the impression everyone's getting that you really dislike Templars.
For the third time, go read the thread. Not going to repeat what I've said in the dozen of posts I have here. And stop assuming what I've said without proofs.
Yes, you're saying because one very skilled templar can survive WBs then everybody must be able to. That's what you've said in these quotes above this. That's a very poor argument.1 -
pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »And hit me up. I'll wreck your best with any class you choose me to play. I have all at v16 and I'm way better than you I promise. hmu in game if you want to be embarrassed you scrub. @pogo
LOL
lol I meant that for Zheg
Who are you? do you play on NA? Cause I've never heard this name before
It's someone that has v16s, and apparently can do a 20k+ WB on the first cast since that and a single Jesus beam will kill me.
"you pointed out that my comment was wrong, 1v1 me brah"
Though I do admit it would be hilarious to respec to trollplar and troll him if he did play on NA.
I said someone else WB on your target and all you do as a templar is RD. L2Read m80 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »And hit me up. I'll wreck your best with any class you choose me to play. I have all at v16 and I'm way better than you I promise. hmu in game if you want to be embarrassed you scrub. @pogo
LOL
lol I meant that for Zheg
Who are you? do you play on NA? Cause I've never heard this name before
It's someone that has v16s, and apparently can do a 20k+ WB on the first cast since that and a single Jesus beam will kill me.
"you pointed out that my comment was wrong, 1v1 me brah"
Though I do admit it would be hilarious to respec to trollplar and troll him if he did play on NA.
I said someone else WB on your target and all you do as a templar is RD. L2Read m8
Pug I have a simple request, meet me in Bruma tonight for an honorable duel, I will be on my DK ult regen build...1 -
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✭✭We have confirmed identity, pug is really George W. Ambush, hate to break it to you but being a ganker is not the same as good player, sorry to break the news...4 -
pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »We have confirmed identity, pug is really George W. Ambush, hate to break it to you but being a ganker is not the same as good player, sorry to break the news...
I don't only play gwb tough guy. and I duel on my "ganker" too. I dont just gank. I also dont cheese like most gankers. I'll duel you but you really dont want to talk all this sh#t just to be embarrassed do you? I will roll you LOLOLOL0 -
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✭✭✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.4 -
pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭why are you even a part of this, ghost? I was addressing Zheg, not you. but hey an easy kill is an easy kill. oh and I love the whole "you want to duel, let me hop on my ult regen stam dk that makes me look good." lawls for days. should I respec my dk to stam and we can both roll our faces across our keyboards with a master class and say we're good?1
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pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.
yes, I made an exaggerated claim, but the point is valid, Zheg. I have stood there and jesus beamed a full health target. he gets hit with a wb or 2 and I get a KB. for real too easy. thats my point.Edited by pogopwns_ESO on April 12, 2016 8:07PM1 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
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✭You are full of it, its impossible that was 1 tick because it was not even the killing blow that was a full channel.Some of my favorite screenshots
My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.2 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »We have confirmed identity, pug is really George W. Ambush, hate to break it to you but being a ganker is not the same as good player, sorry to break the news...
I don't only play gwb tough guy. and I duel on my "ganker" too. I dont just gank. I also dont cheese like most gankers. I'll duel you but you really dont want to talk all this sh#t just to be embarrassed do you? I will roll you LOLOLOL
Are you George?
Hi George.
You are your typical cheese ganker. Trust me. You're no different 1 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »why are you even a part of this, ghost? I was addressing Zheg, not you. but hey an easy kill is an easy kill. oh and I love the whole "you want to duel, let me hop on my ult regen stam dk that makes me look good." lawls for days. should I respec my dk to stam and we can both roll our faces across our keyboards with a master class and say we're good?
Don't take that talk from these little zerglings George, you could 1vx them, I've seen you at work, I believe.1 -
pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »We have confirmed identity, pug is really George W. Ambush, hate to break it to you but being a ganker is not the same as good player, sorry to break the news...
I don't only play gwb tough guy. and I duel on my "ganker" too. I dont just gank. I also dont cheese like most gankers. I'll duel you but you really dont want to talk all this sh#t just to be embarrassed do you? I will roll you LOLOLOL
Are you George?
Hi George.
You are your typical cheese ganker. Trust me. You're no different
I literally do no cheese bro, honestly. I dont hold heavy, release with another skill, I never double procced camo, none of it. Im probably one of the only players that is fully against exploits and cheese.1 -
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The point is not valid because a glass cannon sorc hitting you with fury, curse, frags (in less time than a jesus beam mind you) after someone uses WB wil do even more dmg. A nb gap closing in with a prox det and concealed wep would do the same.pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.
yes, I made an exaggerated claim, but the point is valid, Zheg. I have stood there and jesus beamed a full health target. he gets hit with a wb or 2 and I get a KB. for real too easy. thats my point.
You can pretend like there's more skill in doing the above, but there really isn't. In fact, I'd rather have a Jesus beam on me instead of a sorc because it's easier to deal with.
As with the other 10 threads on this skill, I've still yet to see a strong argument for why it's OP compared to what every other class can do, nor even a half-decent argument for why this should be such a high priority when there is a cornucopia of legitimately broken and OP crap to choose from.Edited by Zheg on April 12, 2016 8:17PM7 -
pogopwns_ESO✭✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »why are you even a part of this, ghost? I was addressing Zheg, not you. but hey an easy kill is an easy kill. oh and I love the whole "you want to duel, let me hop on my ult regen stam dk that makes me look good." lawls for days. should I respec my dk to stam and we can both roll our faces across our keyboards with a master class and say we're good?
Don't take that talk from these little zerglings George, you could 1vx them, I've seen you at work, I believe.
haha thanks elong. I really dont want to start stuff, but forums get to calling ppl bad quick and I obvs get trolled even quicker LOL0 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »why are you even a part of this, ghost? I was addressing Zheg, not you. but hey an easy kill is an easy kill. oh and I love the whole "you want to duel, let me hop on my ult regen stam dk that makes me look good." lawls for days. should I respec my dk to stam and we can both roll our faces across our keyboards with a master class and say we're good?
Don't take that talk from these little zerglings George, you could 1vx them, I've seen you at work, I believe.
haha thanks elong. I really dont want to start stuff, but forums get to calling ppl bad quick and I obvs get trolled even quicker LOL
Don't let the haters get to you George, best way to deal with this is on the battlefield, you've got this.1 -
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✭✭pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »why are you even a part of this, ghost? I was addressing Zheg, not you. but hey an easy kill is an easy kill. oh and I love the whole "you want to duel, let me hop on my ult regen stam dk that makes me look good." lawls for days. should I respec my dk to stam and we can both roll our faces across our keyboards with a master class and say we're good?
Don't take that talk from these little zerglings George, you could 1vx them, I've seen you at work, I believe.
haha thanks elong. I really dont want to start stuff, but forums get to calling ppl bad quick and I obvs get trolled even quicker LOL
Don't let the haters get to you George, best way to deal with this is on the battlefield, you've got this.
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The point is not valid because a glass cannon sorc hitting you with fury, curse, frags (in less time than a jesus beam mind you) after someone uses WB wil do even more dmg. A nb gap closing in with a prox det and concealed wep would do the same.pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.
yes, I made an exaggerated claim, but the point is valid, Zheg. I have stood there and jesus beamed a full health target. he gets hit with a wb or 2 and I get a KB. for real too easy. thats my point.
You can pretend like there's more skill in doing the above, but there really isn't. In fact, I'd rather have a Jesus beam on me instead of a sorc because it's easier to deal with.
As with the other 10 threads on this skill, I've still yet to see a strong argument for why it's OP compared to what every other class can do, nor even a half-decent argument for why this should be such a high priority when there is a cornucopia of legitimately broken and OP crap to choose from.
You are right Zheg, all those 10 threads were made by L2P players who have no idea what's going on and who should listen to your ultimate thruth.
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- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
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- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
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- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
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- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
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- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
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- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
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- Fix streak bug
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The point is not valid because a glass cannon sorc hitting you with fury, curse, frags (in less time than a jesus beam mind you) after someone uses WB wil do even more dmg. A nb gap closing in with a prox det and concealed wep would do the same.pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.
yes, I made an exaggerated claim, but the point is valid, Zheg. I have stood there and jesus beamed a full health target. he gets hit with a wb or 2 and I get a KB. for real too easy. thats my point.
You can pretend like there's more skill in doing the above, but there really isn't. In fact, I'd rather have a Jesus beam on me instead of a sorc because it's easier to deal with.
As with the other 10 threads on this skill, I've still yet to see a strong argument for why it's OP compared to what every other class can do, nor even a half-decent argument for why this should be such a high priority when there is a cornucopia of legitimately broken and OP crap to choose from.
You are right Zheg, all those 10 threads were made by L2P players who have no idea what's going on and who should listen to your ultimate thruth.
Ok so we're all on the same page now?
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The point is not valid because a glass cannon sorc hitting you with fury, curse, frags (in less time than a jesus beam mind you) after someone uses WB wil do even more dmg. A nb gap closing in with a prox det and concealed wep would do the same.pogopwns_ESO wrote: »pogopwns_ESO wrote: »I gave you fgts my @name hit me up. I'll play on any class against you. apparently Im inexperienced because I think RD is a little OP. idgaf hmu in game. you're so tough in forums lol
You sound like a teenager because of the way you talk. You sound inexperienced because you made wholly inaccurate statements about no other skill being unavoidable other than LoS/invis (meteor and soul assault as ults, invigorating drain as regular skill) and pretended like the other counters to Jesus beam (purge/purify/interrupt/bash/stun) didnt exist. You also made a false claim that a single WB and Jesus beam would kill people, and I volunteered to have you demonstrate such a feat because we both know it was hyperbole and you'd need to hit my 30k hp healer for a 20k WB to be able kill me before I CC break and heal. You're entitled to think Jesus beam is overperforming, you're not entitled to think you can get free passes making blatantly false or exaggerated statements.
yes, I made an exaggerated claim, but the point is valid, Zheg. I have stood there and jesus beamed a full health target. he gets hit with a wb or 2 and I get a KB. for real too easy. thats my point.
You can pretend like there's more skill in doing the above, but there really isn't. In fact, I'd rather have a Jesus beam on me instead of a sorc because it's easier to deal with.
As with the other 10 threads on this skill, I've still yet to see a strong argument for why it's OP compared to what every other class can do, nor even a half-decent argument for why this should be such a high priority when there is a cornucopia of legitimately broken and OP crap to choose from.
You are right Zheg, all those 10 threads were made by L2P players who have no idea what's going on and who should listen to your ultimate thruth.
Finally he gets it.5
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