Do you agree with the new Shadow Cloak nerf in terms of not being ABLE to cloak?

Sugram22

No

we don't need nerfs, we need balance, the way NB was was okay, before, but classes do need changed, like my DK normal, but when i see some other DK'S they just wont die & they can kill u easy with their lower damage (well tanks suppose to be lower damage then some & higher defense so he gives advantage to group but not to himself like that he can easy solo kill some1) & that's my man is sing of unbalance, no idea is it gear or potions why they are so OP, well i don't use potions to boost my damage, either way my DK does not feel that strong, same with some vet16 DK'S same issue with them like with me, they seem more equal with me & other classes, while some just wont die, & they even mock u by just doing nothing & letting u hit them, what ever makes them so OP has to be removed, even if its potions

bdw boost potions is dumb sys to begin with, resistance attack all boost potions, foods with little bit HP & MB boost & recovery boosts are okay, but potions NO, seem that they make ppl to OP + maybe some gears/sets to, who knows, my point is that this unbalance needs fix

Sugram22

No

i voted no cause i thought its about that nerf that cloak no longer removes negative/dps effects, i'm against that

that nerf actually helps, ur marked & u can't use cloak, it saves u MP, u don't waste ur MP pointlessly, so my answer is yes, no waste of MP

Sharee

Yes

If you think magelight is bad, wait till my fire DK hits you with scorching flare...

*evil grin*

Sugram22

No

so why would u want to cast it when pp will see u anyway (when ur marked or revealed by Magelight)? , that's Dumb Argument

Sugram22

No

i mean this topic is pointless, its not even nerf, its way to save on MP, can't cast cloak when ur revealed

Edziu

Sugram22 wrote: »

that part is so true, but with sorc there is nothing to nerf, hes fine the way he is, not OP, so if they nerf Sorc i will drop this game. if they make sorc weak ***, it also makes game unbalanced if they change classes one by one, if its a change they half to do all with 1shot

but i heard that what plans they have for sorc is opposite to nerf, sorc becomes stronger

heh ye...they dont nerf anything in sorc on this moment what I see, but this nerfing sorc this dont ruin the game lol

look on since beta, op over all and got big nerf and until this patch they are still on nerf and what?? game not ruined gg

some nerf for stamina burst with buff to magica build...normally I can say it also will ruin game because stamina get no burst, main work for stamina based builds agains magica with survivability and not big burst as stamina...but sorcs have, very good survivability...nah, the best with the best now burst after path, better than on stamina burst without that huge survivability

maybe wait to next path to nerf sorcs to the groun like dk before and see it, game dont will be ruined because dk are returining, some fixes for templars and finally sorc able to kill normally without without difficulty like nb or templars now

Sharee

Yes

Sugram22 wrote: »

so why would u want to cast it when pp will see u anyway (when ur marked or revealed by Magelight)? , that's Dumb Argument

I think i can answer that.

Magelight (currently, at least) works in pulses. It pulses, say, once every half a second and makes invisible enemies visible to you. However when someone is spamming cloak, it is possible he will use it immediately after a pulse, so all you will see is him appearing for a fraction of a second and immediately disappearing. Then he stays invisible for 0.5 seconds until the next time magelight 'pulses'.

The problem is that a NB can move in stealth so fast that in those 0.5 seconds he leaves the radius of magelight, and won't get caught in the next pulse anymore. This is why a cloak-spamming NB sometimes gets away from you even if you have a radiant magelight running and are on top of him.

Once the PTS patch goes live, he won't be able to do that anymore, since being inside magelight range will disable the cloak button.

Sugram22

No

Sharee wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

so why would u want to cast it when pp will see u anyway (when ur marked or revealed by Magelight)? , that's Dumb Argument

I think i can answer that.

Magelight (currently, at least) works in pulses. It pulses, say, once every half a second and makes invisible enemies visible to you. However when someone is spamming cloak, it is possible he will use it immediately after a pulse, so all you will see is him appearing for a fraction of a second and immediately disappearing. Then he stays invisible for 0.5 seconds until the next time magelight 'pulses'.

The problem is that a NB can move in stealth so fast that in those 0.5 seconds he leaves the radius of magelight, and won't get caught in the next pulse anymore. This is why a cloak-spamming NB sometimes gets away from you even if you have a radiant magelight running and are on top of him.

Once the PTS patch goes live, he won't be able to do that anymore, since being inside magelight range will disable the cloak button.

heh, didn't know that, maybe cause my NB is Archer, won't get close to ppl, usually

Sugram22

No

Edziu wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

that part is so true, but with sorc there is nothing to nerf, hes fine the way he is, not OP, so if they nerf Sorc i will drop this game. if they make sorc weak ***, it also makes game unbalanced if they change classes one by one, if its a change they half to do all with 1shot

but i heard that what plans they have for sorc is opposite to nerf, sorc becomes stronger

heh ye...they dont nerf anything in sorc on this moment what I see, but this nerfing sorc this dont ruin the game lol

look on since beta, op over all and got big nerf and until this patch they are still on nerf and what?? game not ruined gg

some nerf for stamina burst with buff to magica build...normally I can say it also will ruin game because stamina get no burst, main work for stamina based builds agains magica with survivability and not big burst as stamina...but sorcs have, very good survivability...nah, the best with the best now burst after path, better than on stamina burst without that huge survivability

maybe wait to next path to nerf sorcs to the groun like dk before and see it, game dont will be ruined because dk are returining, some fixes for templars and finally sorc able to kill normally without without difficulty like nb or Templar's now

the ppl working on the game need to think better 1 thing, like i mentioned before, if they want to change classes & skills & stuff, make all classes/Skills at once not like this, first NB then DK & so on & on, it is braking the game, making it unbalanced

Edziu

Sugram22 wrote: »

the ppl working on the game need to think better 1 thing, like i mentioned before, if they want to change classes & skills & stuff, make all classes/Skills at once not like this, first NB then DK & so on & on, it is braking the game, making it unbalanced

yes...this is it....befora all classes was....not good, only dk..so they nerfet dk to "balance" it with other classes, then they normally fixed, maked nb like now when he is very goo, for stamina and magica build, not all good in this but in caompare nb to other classes nb is now the best balanced between build, so its why is this huge hate for nb when other classes...*cough* withour sorc, he is nonstop very good playable on magica build *cough*, nb after year unplayable style got some love then with this moment dk was still so nerfed, templars got bugs and sorc...hmm...
I think players on sorcs *cough* magica builds *cough* are QQ about stamina nb burst with cc and so mobility with survivability on magica nb (please dont compare defensive cloak to uncrittable shieldspam with crysta frag proc )...when they on sorcs have problem just with CC because on magica build they cant nonstop break free like stamina builds lol

the only thing why sorcs are dying are because they getting cc and no stam for break to again shied spam, but sorry, off topic

so with some time from game launch only nb got rework, then sorcs are hmm, nonstop with normal level, no any huge nerfs or buffs like on all other classes in this time

dk got nerf, templar bugs, not fixes, sorc nothing and people now have problem then only nb got this rework...if all classes will get good rework then people will stop QQ about buff only 1 class lke now sorc is it getting...dk just returing some from old days and templar small buff to get...fixed to can be more playable for solo on pvp and some nerf for nb? for stamina builds when they losing some burst without good survivability like magica builds have...but magica build getting more burst then in this CP changes+ more survivability, meh...

so...balanced nb getting some nerf, more for stamina build, all stamina builds getting some nerf with dmg on pvp, magica dk getting buff? or just this returing good days for dk from past, templar getting some balance in dps between other classes and sorc..sorc stamina nothing new but magica getting buff to burst and defensive in CP and no any nerf (please dont write me this new passive in CP agains dmg shields...as I writed it before on today cap its pretty useless for all because this isnt to good against all other people like pure psyhical dmg, psyhical crits dmg and penetration)

Iyas

Yes

Its a clear 50/50 % poll. Nice

Ender1310

EatUrNumNumz wrote: »

I personally don't agree with it. I'm all for it still revealing and working as it is now really, just don't prevent me from casting the ability all together. Especially if mark target prevents me from using one of my only defensive class skills for a full 20+ seconds. Mage light isn't as bad due to it being only 5 seconds, but if someone continually casted it then it would be nearly as bad in my opinion. Also, I feel just because 1 person places Mark Target on someone, not EVERY enemy should see them; only the caster should be able to see them.

Ender1310

People that don't play the class or like another class better will love it. It's simple the population of NBs will die down and people will start playing the other classes. Once this happens nerf bat will swing again. Relax you just have to wait it out NBs. What I'm doing im Leveling Alts. So just join the other team and get them nerfed.

Cody

Yes

Ender1310 wrote: »

People that don't play the class or like another class better will love it. It's simple the population of NBs will die down and people will start playing the other classes. Once this happens nerf bat will swing again. Relax you just have to wait it out NBs. What I'm doing im Leveling Alts. So just join the other team and get them nerfed.

magelight is certainly going to get changed afterwards. I personally dont mind the chnage very much, but it does effectively BREAK stealth based players. As of now the player can escape the magelight, but the magelight can still get that stealthed player killed when used properly. The stealth attack resistance alone cuts stealth attacks in half.

with this new change coming up, a stealthed based player will be almost screwed when attacking a magelight user. Melee stealth players wont even be able to approach the magelight user if they want to go back in stealth afterwards. This change will not last long when it comes out.

nooblox85

No

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Palidon

No

ZOS has messed with the Nighblade class more than any other in this game. From a player who has always played a Nightblade I am finally fed up with the constant nerfs to the class. This class is by no way balanced with the other classes and hasn't been for some time. But, whatever. After four years of this bull I have decided to moved on. There is no sense complaining because nothing will change.

Silver_Strider

2 year necro.

Still_Mind

Silver_Strider wrote: »

2 year necro.

Mannimarco would be proud.

Malacthulhu

No

Still_Mind wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

2 year necro.

Mannimarco would be proud.

I actually started reading it wondering where this bs was coming from then looked at date lol. Necros always make me laugh.

ak_pvp

Palidon wrote: »

ZOS has messed with the Nighblade class more than any other in this game. From a player who has always played a Nightblade I am finally fed up with the constant nerfs to the class. This class is by no way balanced with the other classes and hasn't been for some time. But, whatever. After four years of this bull I have decided to moved on. There is no sense complaining because nothing will change.

Kek no. Cloak op, get good. Best class for a while and the mage light changes made it not even close to worth.

Gilvoth

No

Silver_Strider wrote: »

2 year necro.

the subject is still relevant today and effects current gameplay, it is very relevant.

Gilvoth

No

ak_pvp wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

ZOS has messed with the Nighblade class more than any other in this game. From a player who has always played a Nightblade I am finally fed up with the constant nerfs to the class. This class is by no way balanced with the other classes and hasn't been for some time. But, whatever. After four years of this bull I have decided to moved on. There is no sense complaining because nothing will change.

Kek no. Cloak op, get good. Best class for a while and the mage light changes made it not even close to worth.

hey dude, dont wory, he is leaving eso and so am i.
eso has added a armor set called sloads that removes stealth and casting invis permanently,

i play this game for stealth and all i allways play is stealth classes, and since eso has now removed stealth im no stay here.
you guys won.
we are leaving.

Sevn

Looking forward to how pvp looks a few months after this hits. Drop off is going to be insane. Careful what you wish for.

usmguy1234

Yes

Can we drop the person who necro'd this into a sea of slaughter fish. Rip the dream.

LittlePinkDot

oh well, at least we get a shadow image teleport without needing a target

bardx86

Yes

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

ZOS has messed with the Nighblade class more than any other in this game. From a player who has always played a Nightblade I am finally fed up with the constant nerfs to the class. This class is by no way balanced with the other classes and hasn't been for some time. But, whatever. After four years of this bull I have decided to moved on. There is no sense complaining because nothing will change.

Kek no. Cloak op, get good. Best class for a while and the mage light changes made it not even close to worth.

hey dude, dont wory, he is leaving eso and so am i.
eso has added a armor set called sloads that removes stealth and casting invis permanently,

i play this game for stealth and all i allways play is stealth classes, and since eso has now removed stealth im no stay here.
you guys won.
we are leaving.

can i have your stuff?

ak_pvp

bardx86 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

ZOS has messed with the Nighblade class more than any other in this game. From a player who has always played a Nightblade I am finally fed up with the constant nerfs to the class. This class is by no way balanced with the other classes and hasn't been for some time. But, whatever. After four years of this bull I have decided to moved on. There is no sense complaining because nothing will change.

Kek no. Cloak op, get good. Best class for a while and the mage light changes made it not even close to worth.

hey dude, dont wory, he is leaving eso and so am i.
eso has added a armor set called sloads that removes stealth and casting invis permanently,

i play this game for stealth and all i allways play is stealth classes, and since eso has now removed stealth im no stay here.
you guys won.
we are leaving.

can i have your stuff?

Judging by his posts, its probably green level 48 invigorating dropped gear.

Datthaw

So I haven't read this change but if it locks you from casting it AT ALL then that's *** up. I use it even when marked for the shadow tree buffs, get my resistances up. This, from what it sounds like, screws that's up.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Yes

I love the change...

Too many people use Nightblade as a crutch (and in particular Cloak, Incap, and Fear) to make up for a lack of skill...

People will now be deprived of their easy mode and actually have to fight...

Well done Zenimax!!

M3atwad

I read through most of this and finally saw the date. I was wondering wtf changed !! ........damnit lol