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The ULTIMATE Daedric Shepherd - Excited for Update 13!
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SmalltalkJava✭✭✭Oops forgot to add even though I need to test it more is that it appears that the new thaumaturge Change to raise dot damage does affect the pet pbaoe. I haven't completely verified yet to see if it was just the magicka increase you get for putting points into mage cp or actually thaimaturge itself. But at first glance it seemed to affect the tooltip0 -
SmalltalkJava✭✭✭I haven't had a lot of play time since the release so I'm not sure of actual dos. I just was going off of memory. But the new pet pbaoe ticks 3 times in the 4 seconds. Once on cast, then at 2 secs, then at 4 secs. iirc. Depending on my gear, I saw the tool tip range from 3000is up to 3600 ish. Maybe @Thelon can do some more expansive testing as my play time has been limited0
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SmalltalkJava✭✭✭Dang mobile phones and forums.. I meant to add that what I'd like to eventually is create a graph showing pet tool tip damag/healing numbers mapped to magicka. I think it would be interesting to see the scale. especially with taking advantage of trinimac damage and the new pbaoe. If I could kill bosses without any direct damage myself except for weapon use. we can use aegeus shield plus inner light to really push up magicka.. With necropotence and the buffs I was able to get 46k magicka and I don't have top equipment. It would use 4 slots per bar. Which would leave 1 slot for shield. And then just one slot bar two and one on overload, if you used overload. 2 pet slots, 1 aegis armor, 1 inner light. but that is extreme
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SmalltalkJava✭✭✭I managed to get online for a bit. Gonna try and grab more data later on.
I have with my one build...
39,355 Magicka.
2428 Spell damage.
CP:
94 Elemental Expert.
29 Elfborn
2 Thaumaturge
Volatile Pulse: Tooltip: 3952 per pulse (3 pulses. 4 seconds) so... 11,856 damage per cast (minus any resists they have)..
It pulsed for 3188 regular and 5133 Crit. on Sylvarra the Deep, its a Lamia World boss in Thieves Guild.Edited by SmalltalkJava on March 11, 2016 2:23AM0 -
SmalltalkJava✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »@SmalltalkJava Per pulse you say? I thought it was over the course of the time...
This changes it quite a bit. That's even worth PvP imo. I'm licking my chops at the idea...
And I didn't know the Maw got buffed too... I'm going to try and get that.
I like your numbers. Do you happen to have any dps numbers with your testing of Trinimac, I gotta wait for what feels forever to get this update!
Yes, it is per pulse. on that boss mentioned above it tick'd for 3188 no crit.
Regarding Trinimac's I haven't actually done much dps testing on it. I just notice that it is pretty reliable on proc'ing.
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SmalltalkJava✭✭✭vs. Mammoth in Wrothgar.
Magicka: 47,459
Spell Damage: 2032
Spell Crit: 42%
CP
22 Elfborn (should be a step point, iirc 8.7% increase damage for spell crits *not sure if it impacts pulse or not*)
100 Elemental Expert (gives more elemental and magic damage 25%)
3 Thaumaturge (gives + DOT damage 2.2%)[12:37] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 5230 with Zap
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used P and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:37] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] You is immune from Volatile Familiar Stun
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:37] Mammoth hit Volatile Familiar for 141 with Vigorous Swipe
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] Volatile Familiar CRIT Mammoth for 1517 with Familiar Melee
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] You hit Mammoth for 5007 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:37] You hit Mammoth for 5007 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 701 with Empowered Ward
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch ABSORBED 701 with Empowered Ward
[12:37] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:37] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:37] You is immune from Volatile Familiar Stun
[12:37] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:37] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 3487 with Kick
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 537 with Concussion
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:38] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:38] You used Trinimac's Valor and CRIT Healed 5491 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] You used Trinimac's Valor and CRIT Healed 5491 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 4231 with Trinimac's Valor
[12:38] Volatile Familiar CRIT Mammoth for 1517 with Familiar Melee
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 2325 with Kick
[12:38] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 5007 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 335 with Concussion
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:38] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 537 ncussion
[12:38] You hit Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:38] You is immune from Volatile Familiar Stun
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:38] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch ABSORBED 477 with Empowered Ward
[12:38] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 477 with Empowered Ward
[12:38] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3487 with Zap
[12:38] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:38] Twilight Matriarch ABSORBED 120 with Empowered Ward
[12:38] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 120 with Empowered Ward
[12:38] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:38] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:38] Twil
with magic debuff Elemental Drain III, which i forgot to refresh after it expired.
[12:47] Master Merchant Initialized -- Holding information on 205990 sales.
[12:47] Bekannte Rezepte: 224
[12:47] uespLog v0.61 add-on initialized...debug output is currently off.
[12:47] Sneakmode ON
[12:47] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 566 with Concussion
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 5620 with Zap
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:47] Volatile Familiar CRIT Mammoth for 1629 with Familiar Melee
[12:47] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:47] Mammoth hit Twilight Matriarch for 1953 with Swipe
[12:47] You CRIT Mammoth for 8441 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:47] Volatile Familiar used Pet HeaHealed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:47] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1141 with Familiar Melee
[12:47] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 2325 with Kick
[12:47] You hit Mammoth for 5309 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:47] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 120 with Empowered Ward
[12:47] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 2325 with Kick
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 120 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1141 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 120 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 141 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 5309 with Familiar Damage
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 2325 with Kick
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 141 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 827 with Light Attack
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 906 with Charged Weapon
[12:48] Volatile Familiar CRIT Mammoth for 1712 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 141 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 141 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 5309 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 2325 with Kick
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 141 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1h Familiar Melee
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 569 with Concussion
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 5309 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] You is immune from Volatile Familiar Stun
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 3487 with Kick
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 566 with Concussion
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3936 with Zap
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1141 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 477 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] You CRIT Mammoth for 8441 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1141 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Twilight Matrit Mammoth for 3936 with Zap
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 569 with Concussion
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 5309 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] Volatile Familiar CRIT Mammoth for 1712 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mammoth for 3936 with Zap
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] You CRIT Mammoth for 8441 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] You is immune from Volatile Familiar Stun
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 596 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch hit Mamm 3487 with Zap
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 471 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 5230 with Zap
[12:48] You CRIT Mammoth for 7962 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar hit Mammoth for 1011 with Familiar Melee
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and CRIT Healed 990 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] Volatile Familiar ABSORBED 2802 with Empowered Ward
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 5007 with Familiar Damage Pulse
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch CRIT Mammoth for 5230 with Zap
[12:48] Twilight Matriarch used Pet Heal and Healed 314 on Twilight Matriarch
[12:48] Volatile Familiar used Pet Heal and Healed 660 on Volatile Familiar
[12:48] +910 Experients
[12:48] +910 Veteran Points
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 9486 with Disintegration
[12:48] You hit Mammoth for 827 with Light Attack
[12:48] You CRIT Mammoth for 1359 with Charged Weapon
Volatile Familiar Pulse Pbaoe tool tip:
Twilight Matriarch heal spell tooltip
Character stat sheet
Equipment:
5 vr12 Necropotence (purple)
5 Trinimacs (mix vr15 and vr16 -purple)
2 vr16 Willpower Swords (Gold)
Edited by SmalltalkJava on March 11, 2016 10:47PM0 -
SmalltalkJava✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I can't wait, I also hope Daedric Prey gets fixed on console. Consdering an idea of elemental drain + Prey, + dps matriarch (or heals maybe but the dps one could pull some numbers) and the familiar and... the daedroth (im on a daedroth kick atm)
Oh and your trinimac numbers are awesome.
Regarding daedric prey, I had a few minutes to test the swap bar bug. Now I need to test more but this is what appears to bug out.
Test 1: Cast prey. Swap bar and don't cast any other spells. It exploded.
Test 2: Cast prey, swap bar, cast another spell. And it doesn't explode.
So someone may want to verify this test
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NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Gotta say your pet build and mine are WAY different lol... but then again I'm still hung up on necropotence and pumping magicka as high as possible.
But I find myself with the ability to tank, ability to heal, and even the ability to do most of maelstrom with my true pet build. (True as in they arn't just slotted on a stamina or spell power stack build)
Dps with pets has always been lacking from a pure spell power build. But in positions where it's not my only focus (such as tanking or healing, or surviving -vma-) I find them extremly useful...and I think every sorc should atleast expand their horizons out to them now.
As for people comparing pulses. On the high end my pets pulses do 9.1k per target. Average in vwgt when i'm tanking is 6-7k range.Edited by NativeJoe on March 11, 2016 11:00PM650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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SmalltalkJava✭✭✭
I'm with you Joe. The new changes are great. Its nice to actually be able talk positively about pets. Before the changes it was a rough ride.Gotta say your pet build and mine are WAY different lol... but then again I'm still hung up on necropotence and pumping magicka as high as possible.
But I find myself with the ability to tank, ability to heal, and even the ability to do most of maelstrom with my true pet build. (True as in they arn't just slotted on a stamina or spell power stack build)
Dps with pets has always been lacking from a pure spell power build. But in positions where it's not my only focus (such as tanking or healing, or surviving -vma-) I find them extremly useful...and I think every sorc should atleast expand their horizons out to them now.
As for people comparing pulses. On the high end my pets pulses do 9.1k per target. Average in vwgt when i'm tanking is 6-7k range.Gotta say your pet build and mine are WAY different lol... but then again I'm still hung up on necropotence and pumping magicka as high as possible.
But I find myself with the ability to tank, ability to heal, and even the ability to do most of maelstrom with my true pet build. (True as in they arn't just slotted on a stamina or spell power stack build)
Dps with pets has always been lacking from a pure spell power build. But in positions where it's not my only focus (such as tanking or healing, or surviving -vma-) I find them extremly useful...and I think every sorc should atleast expand their horizons out to them now.
As for people comparing pulses. On the high end my pets pulses do 9.1k per target. Average in vwgt when i'm tanking is 6-7k range.
I'm with ya Joe. I have used necropotence a lot. I still am, the screen shots I posted above are with necropotence. I still have spelldamage equipment, but after the patch I've been testing more with necropotence. Its nice. I love the new patch changes. 47,000 magic makes for a nice ward also
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Darshan✭✭@Waffennacht
I like your post very much, especially for pets! Love them.
I am quite new to the ESO clan, I am currently lvl 30 and I don't quite have all the experience you have.
Do you have a build guide for myself at my lvl trying to aim at achieving your current 'end game' as there isn't much info available at lower lvls on how best to skill up their sorc with pets, etc?
Currently I am playing PVE, I would love to venture in PVP and I would love to have a build that could accommodate both PVE and PVP.
I currently use both pets as you specify, my weapons are dual wield and rest staff and I am a high elf.0 -
Darshan✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
Well leveling skills in eso works a bit different than other games I've played.
You don't actually have to use the skill (ability) to level them.
So when are comfortable with any build while playing PvE, spend a few skill points in whatever you want to level (so if you wanna level pets first just unlock, don't slot it) complete a quest, and before turning in the quest, slot the skill you want leveled, turn in the quest and that skill gains the xp.
This way you aren't stuck slugging it out with under powered moves.
You can also just spam the heck out of an ability while in combat to gain some xp (though questing is the fastest way.)
Because of this there isn't really a need for a "guide" as in reality you're not even using the abilities until they are maxed.
Now as for PvP.
Pre update there really is no reason to slot pets. Maybe as LoS or a way to psyc out your opponent into thinking you're a scrub.
Even at 60k magicka the hardest a pet can get pre update is 6k unmitigated (so less really) and costs sooo much time and magicka. So just for fun in PvP i run matriarch and infernal (as they can actually have some dps)
Post update is a different story.
The familiar scamp will hit hard (so people have shown me @SmalltalkJava ) and the matriarch can have compareable heals. Infernal has been compared to Volkyn in terms of potential dps and utility. So post update Pets are actually viable (esp in small scale PvP)
I personally would use PvP gear however.
Edit: at lvl 30 and for a while, just completing stuff with what makes you comfortable is the best choice. Later on you can use that experience to get other skills leveled and under your belt. Almost all builds work at that level, I (at those levels) ran heavy x4 light x3 seducer set with sb and pets. Just played defense with heals, not really a good build but got things leveled
Extremely helpful, thank you so much. I actually had no idea I could do that with the skills. This certainly gives me a new outlook on skills and leveling them up!
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hello everybody! So the time is here were Ive updated my build. I wrote a new guide so I may have missed something. Please feel free to ask any questions. Also point out anything I missed!
@Emma_Eunjung @Thelon @BdCHighVoltage @PCheuk38b14_ESO @Darshan @The_Patriarch @SmalltalkJava
Whatcha guys think? Any feedback or ideas?
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Insomnia rex✭✭✭Hey Waffennacht,
Really appreciate the post TG update! Your previous Deadric Shepherd guide was what actually kept me playing sorc and I'm atm farming Trinimac's Valor to test your build.
I have some questions/comments: If the proc chance for Trinimac is 20% per ally your total proc chance should be 36%, not 40%, if those two chances are calculated independently. (I have no idea how this actually works.) Edit: My reasoning here would be total chance of trigger = 1-(1-p)^n, with p = 0.2 and n = 2, so 0.36 .
Also, as I can't watch Youtube at work, how frequent do you cast hardened ward in your rotation? And did you not give your exact allocation of CPs for where its up to preference?
Given, that you put a lot of effort into formatting your guide, why not abuse the bbcode columns tag to present some of the info table like.The Mage
The Apprentice
Elemental Expert
The Atronach
Staff Expert
The Ritual
- ThaumaturgeThe Thief
The Tower
Magician
The Lover
Arcanist 73
Tenacity
The Shadow
Tumbling 9
Shade 1The Warrior
The Steed
The Lady
Elemental Defender
Hardy
The Lord
Bastion 94
Edit: The code for using columns in this example.cheers - Insomnia[columns] [b]The Mage[/b] The Apprentice [i]Elemental Expert[/i] The Atronach [i]Staff Expert[/i] The Ritual [i]- Thaumaturge[/i] [nextcol] [indent][b]The Thief[/b] The Tower [i]Magician[/i] The Lover [i]Arcanist[/i] 73 [i]Tenacity[/i] The Shadow [i]Tumbling[/i] 9 [i]Shade[/i] 1 [nextcol] [indent][b]The Warrior[/b] The Steed The Lady [i]Elemental Defender[/i] [i]Hardy[/i] The Lord [i]Bastion[/i] 94 [/columns]
Edited by Insomnia rex on March 31, 2016 12:16PMCP630 AR20 PC EU, Alt Mag Sorc AD - Insomnicia Rex1 -
SmalltalkJava✭✭✭@Waffennacht I managed some more testing tonight regarding CP and the pets.
Blessed does impact the Twilight Heal. I moved 100 points from one cp into Blessed and the increase was non-crit: 5197 to 6496 and heal crits on her casting went from 7795 to 9744
Blessed does impact her action heal.
Elfborn also impacts her heal crit amount, i put 34 into Elfborn, and got these numbers:
non crits for 6603 and crits of 10696. the normal 1.5 crit bonus expectation for 6603 heal critting should be about 9904. So Elfborn worked.
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The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just watched your video, and I was suprised at how long the Volatile Familiar lasted against the Daedroth. Crystal Frags seemed to proc often enough, too.
Honestly, I've never tried running just a resto staff on my main bar. I might give it a try, but I'm not sure if I feel confident enough to have only two damage skills of my own (three, if you count streak). Do the pets deal enough damage? Don't get me wrong, I want to try this out.
What craftable set do you recommend until I acquire Trinimac?0 -
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✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Without trinimac I use x5 julianos, x3 willpower, and then it can a large variety but typically magnus is easiest and well rounded. Technically I should be running twice born over Julianos due to my cp amount, but I don't have traits researched quite yet.
Btw Imo Necropotence is still a viable set too. I like it a lot.
The pets do really decent damage, the twilight no matter the morph is dealin approx 2k dps for free and the familiar does great damage and cc. The fact he moves is awesome, the only draw back of AoEs are that they don't move, well this one chases them!
Im thinking of switching streak off of Overload and switching it to Boundless (whichever its new name is) for a new effect and most importantly mobility. Not to mention more dps and AoE.
The build has more than enough dps to complete vet dungeons solo. The real trick is knowing all the positioning and mechanics.
Fyi, the two sister harvesters in Vet Banished Cells are super super easy with pets.
Thanks for the reply. I currently wear 5 Julianos and 3 Torugs, but might switch out the Torugs with Magnus for better sustain. I'm still working on acquiring Willpower, but I have spell damage glyphs on regular arcane jewlery.0 -
dpencil✭✭✭✭@Waffennacht I've been intrigued by your build and am playing around with a variation that tries to capitalize on aoe dot damage. I'm still working on getting all the pieces for this, but the build would look something like this:
2xValkian Skoria (since almost all dmg will be dot, this will proc a ton)
5xTrinimac (or Julianos if you prefer)
3xWillpower
1xMaelstrom Lightning staff
2xTorgues swords
Bar 1:
Blockade of Lightning
Lightning Flood (I prefer this for more area coverage and the 6 second cooldown actually fits better in the rotation)
Hardened Ward
Volitile Familiar
Twilight Matriarch
Bar 2:
Power Surge
Proxy Detination
(Flex) You could slot Hardened Ward to be covered on both bars, or Streak, Daedric Prey, w/e
Volitile Familiar
Twilight Matriarch
I run overload on both bars, but you could do w/e you like (it's where I slot Mages Wrath for execute range)
Rotation:
Pre-fight: Power Surge, Proxy Det, HW, command pets to attack (Y+Left click)
Fight: Wall, LF, (Prey, if you have it), Familiar, Lightning heavy attacks (all of these proc Skoria)
Reapply all pre-fight/fight skills on cooldown
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Profit
The purpose of this build is primarily to solo group dungeons, which is a pretty new thing for me. I think the dps would likely be too low for running with an actual group, and it obviously relies too much on enemies standing in stuff for it to work in pvp. Still, it's a very different play style from how I have been playing sorc for so long and in that way it's at least interesting and kind of refreshing. It's a totally different meta from burn them down as fast as possible. It's all about maintenence and outlasting the boss as you whittle them down.0 -
dpencil✭✭✭✭I played around with Skoria on PTS a little, I only have shoulders on live atm. Didn't collect any numbers yet though. If you have access to PTS you could try Mephala a little and see how it works out. You can use the template char and outfit them with Julianos/Willpower/Maelstrom/Monster helm right off there.0
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dpencil✭✭✭✭@Waffennacht
Some quick numbers from PTS w/ purple Julianos/Skoria/Willpower/Mael Lightning
Mammoth: 20,042 dps over 0:07
Mammoth: 21,512 dps over 0:06
Mammoth: 23,079 dps over 0:06
Mammoth: 24,114 dps over 0:06
NYZ Round before boss (spiders and balls): 21,943 over 0:26
Soloed NYZ: 9,629 over 2:17 (not super efficient, had to heal/ward a lot)
Soloed EDU: 12,291 over 2:58
These are actually better numbers than I normally pull with my standard Force Pulse / Crystal Frag rotation, and much more sustainable. I didn't need to use potions at all on EDU and never ran out of magicka even though my gear had no regen bonuses. At one moment I got close to running out so did a few overload attacks (9 total). Not to mention that from a survivability perspective, I would usually get trounced by NYZ or EDU pretty fast with a non-pet build solo.
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