No CP PvP Campaigns
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Cyrodiil Updates
We have a number of exciting additions and changes in Cyrodiil!
Once Update 9 is published, the Azura's Star and Blackwater Blade campaigns will limit the Champion System.
While in these campaigns, you will not be able to spend Champion Points when they are earned until you leave Cyrodiil, and all Champion abilities will be inactive.
Note that Champion Experience can still earned while in these campaigns.
[snip] don't do that in azura's star aka the most populated campaign on both PC NA and EU
[Thread title and post edited to remove bashing and censor bypass]
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RadioheadSh0t✭✭✭✭✭The top campaign is going No CP?
That makes no sense.Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
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Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
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Berserkur✭✭✭Azura will be empty as soon as Update 9 is going online. That will be the same Sh.. just like they did with Thornblade EU with IC Update...ZoS lagg solution3 -
Zavus✭✭✭✭RadioheadSh0t wrote: »The top campaign is going No CP?
That makes no sense.
It actually makes a lot of sense. In order for them to test the change and get relevant feedback on whether or not people like the change it has to be done this way. Look at what happened with Axe of Belharza, they tried to test gated access on a new campaign and no one switched over. They couldn't get any feedback on how it would affect an actual populated server and the campaign just died/turned into a buff server.
Making Azuras Star a campaign with No CP just forces everyone to test out the change and report the feedback via changes in population. If the campaign starts to decline in large numbers, it'll just be an indication of how many people are actually displeased with the change.Edited by Zavus on February 3, 2016 9:46PMZavus - Worst NB NA / First NB RANK 50"Most carried General NA" - Cent Satori
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It actually makes a lot of sense. In order for them to test the change and get relevant feedback on whether or not people like the change it has to be done this way. Look at what happened with Axe of Belharza, they tried to test gated access on a new campaign and no one switched over. They couldn't get any feedback on how it would affect an actual populated server and the campaign just died/turned into a buff server.
Making Azuras Star a campaign with No CP just forces everyone to test out the change and report the feedback via changes in population. If the campaign starts to decline in large numbers, it'll just be an indication of how many people are actually displeased with the change.
It might be the most effective, but it's an *** move by ZOS.Jadokis - AD Redguard DK v16 AR 18
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Decado✭✭✭✭I agree this is insane, no idea why they choose the most populated campaign, second it goes live everyone is just being forced to move campaigns, that is all that will happen, a mass exodus from there and a few weeks of looking around for a new home camp for everyone,
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✭✭It's a great idea to encourage people to spread in all campaigns instead of stacking one and create huge performance problems. I don't really mind it.Frozn - Stamdk - AR50
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor RooseveltSpoiler- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Its a good change imo its mainly pugs playing Azura guild raids are more spread onto other campaigns. Pugs are still gnna be pugs even without CP. Will just even the playing field a little for them (thats if the campaign stays as popular as it is now)
Good move imo@Solar_Breeze
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✭✭✭Its a brilliant change.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}AddonsSpoiler350m+ AP PC - EU
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't know. I think it will just force everyone the majority to evacuate Azura as soon as they look at their stats after logging in.1 -
Decado✭✭✭✭Most people's builds now are made with there CP in the calculation including the amount of health you have, anyone wanting to stay on such a campaign will likely have to respec there whole build for it,2
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✭✭✭Many called for gated access to Imp City. ZOS put out a campaign granting the players' wish.... No one cared, it was a bust. Many been calling for no CP campaigns, a way to bring PvP back to the days before CP was around, and now you guys have issue with it because it's Azura Star? The complaint has been for a long time that ZOS never listens to the players. They have given the players what they ask for and then the players either don't care or take issue with it. Wtf?10 -
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✭✭✭✭It'll be just like Axe. Dedicated PvPers will think it is awesome, but soon there won't be anymore pugs to farm. Then all of the dedicated PvPers will all switch to whatever CP active campaign the Pugs went to.
Apparently they didn't learn that this kind of change needs to be all or none.Edited by timidobserver on February 3, 2016 11:32PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Erondil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »Many called for gated access to Imp City. ZOS put out a campaign granting the players' wish.... No one cared, it was a bust. Many been calling for no CP campaigns, a way to bring PvP back to the days before CP was around, and now you guys have issue with it because it's Azura Star? The complaint has been for a long time that ZOS never listens to the players. They have given the players what they ask for and then the players either don't care or take issue with it. Wtf?
The game is now balanced around cp, especially pvp (cough battlespirit cough) so pvp without cp wouldnt work unless zos introduces many gameplay change at the same time. Heck I preferred the game as it was without cp system but now its been there for so long it simply doesnt work without it.~retired~
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✭timidobserver wrote: »It'll be just like Axe. Dedicated PvPers will think it is awesome, but soon there won't be anymore pugs to farm. Then all of the dedicated PvPers will all switch to whatever CP active campaign the Pugs went to.
Apparently they didn't learn that this kind of change needs to be all or none.
I've yet to see any dedicated PvPer who plan on having no cp campaign as main. It needs a whole new build which is too much effort (bc vr16 gear) and since the game is now balanced around it, pvp would be boring and painfull with 0 cp.~retired~
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✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »Many called for gated access to Imp City. ZOS put out a campaign granting the players' wish.... No one cared, it was a bust. Many been calling for no CP campaigns, a way to bring PvP back to the days before CP was around, and now you guys have issue with it because it's Azura Star? The complaint has been for a long time that ZOS never listens to the players. They have given the players what they ask for and then the players either don't care or take issue with it. Wtf?
The gated concept is worthless unless the gated content is actually exclusive in some way. Having a single gated campaign among several non-gated campaigns was never going to have any merit at all.
ZOS missed the point about gated campaigns and it missed the point regarding a CP disabled campaign: It should be the non-vet campaign that has CP disabled.1 -
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The gated concept is worthless unless the gated content is actually exclusive in some way. Having a single gated campaign among several non-gated campaigns was never going to have any merit at all.
ZOS missed the point about gated campaigns and it missed the point regarding a CP disabled campaign: It should be the non-vet campaign that has CP disabled.
When the well known streamers like Sypher called for no CP campaigns I don't think they were specifically saying it should be for non vet only.1 -
Erondil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »
When the well known streamers like Sypher called for no CP campaigns I don't think they were specifically saying it should be for non vet only.
Having a non-cp vet campaign why not (eventhough I dont see much point anymore since the cap has been reached or is close for most active pvpers by now) but choosing the only one with action during the day and on eu the best one to find smallscale... is not.Edited by Erondil on February 3, 2016 11:58PM~retired~
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This was only relevant before CP was capped.Publius_Scipio wrote: »When the well known streamers like Sypher called for no CP campaigns I don't think they were specifically saying it should be for non vet only.2 -
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✭All I see happening is the majority of those who played on azuras rehomingRhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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Talcyndl✭✭✭✭✭Yup. It's a surefire way for ZOS to be able to claim they've fixed the lag on Azuras.
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't really mind. At the moment Trueflame is often pop locked because people are moving from Azuras to there, so finding a CP-enabled campaign isn't going to be difficult anyway.1 -
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✭I don't know. I think it will just force everyone the majority to evacuate Azura as soon as they look at their stats after logging in.
Im keeping it my home because of that I hope it forces people to have a more balanced build again. i think it will be way better for balance again. Now sorcs and nbs have to think about a more balanced build. otherwise just take their burst for 10 seconds and then wreck them.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Darnathian wrote: »
Im keeping it my home because of that I hope it forces people to have a more balanced build again. i think it will be way better for balance again. Now sorcs and nbs have to think about a more balanced build. otherwise just take their burst for 10 seconds and then wreck them.
Well, that's the problem right there, you see. You are right, it will force people to have a more balanced build. Or in other words, to have a different build than they got now. Which means redoing all those gold set items once again. And for what? so that they can stay on azura? Way easier to just jump ship and move to a different campaign.2 -
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✭✭People unwilling to put in the time, are the ones calling for no CP servers.... and these servers are destined to fail.
I hate the CP system, but it's here. There is no compromise, either ZOS accepts they are unbalanced and -removes- the CP system, period. Or, we deal with it. Having the "option" for no CP server is going to fail because I sure as hell am not going to gimp myself, and will immediately re-home another server.
Edited by Lord_Hev on February 4, 2016 9:07AM5 -
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It actually makes a lot of sense. In order for them to test the change and get relevant feedback on whether or not people like the change it has to be done this way. Look at what happened with Axe of Belharza, they tried to test gated access on a new campaign and no one switched over. They couldn't get any feedback on how it would affect an actual populated server and the campaign just died/turned into a buff server.
Making Azuras Star a campaign with No CP just forces everyone to test out the change and report the feedback via changes in population. If the campaign starts to decline in large numbers, it'll just be an indication of how many people are actually displeased with the change.
Um no..it doesn't. There are these things called surveys? There is also a public test server. ZoS can't even use their own tools. It's a joke. I have some friends that came back to the game (believe it or not) after a year or so away. They are homed on TF because they didn't want the lag of AZ.(half the reason they left in the first place) Now that whole thing is going to be thrown out the window as all the lagball zergs come over.
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Rayste✭✭✭Posted this in another thread:
Azura's was the most logical pick for this. Most new pvpers / casuals most likely pull their campaign tab up and select the first one available. Just a theory anyways ...
If you don't like the non cp campaign then simply put your campaign to switch on reset which will cost you nothing and be ready by the time this is released.
Welcome to Trueflame OR you could go make haderus more laggy OR possibly even go make axe competitive.
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Wheeler: Guys how do we get ppl to spread out from azura?
Guy1: Ask them? Worked great when we did that with in terms of the blob meta!
Wheeler: ...
Guy2: Just make Azura no CP camp - who´s gonna remake their gear to play there?
Wheeler: THAT`S A BINGO!<Noricum>
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