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just hit vet 16

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So I just decided to finish and grind out 2 more levels and get my main to vet 16 instead of being an altoholic. Now I am looking into Solid gear for him. What would be a good set for a healer build that can still do some damage so I am not just a healbot. Just curious so when I finish my armor grind I have an idea on what I want. I do rather like the julianos set( currently wear and another that I cant remember). I run DW and resto staff 5 light 1 med 1 heavy. I would like more crit I recently re rolled my attributes giving me less hp (but healer so...) and like 20% more crit. I am at 40.7% crit and that has seemed to work much better than having the higher hp because I deal more damage and heal harder.

With this what would be a good armor set for PVE mostly I do pvp and I will need another set for that specifically(I know that much). Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

-Lightninvash
  • AlnilamE
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    Julianos is a solid set.

    What I currently have on my NB as a magicka DPS/Healer: 5 Julianos, 1 Kena, 3 Willpower, 2 Torug's Pact.
    My templar's off-heal spec is currently wearing hand-me-downs from her big sisters. She has 5 Martial Knowledge, 3 soulshine and I think the rest is Eyes of Mara, but I haven't played her for healing in a month because I was away and unable to do dungeons, so I'd have to double check.

    Kragenac's Hope is a good set too, I hear. I'm going to use that for my Magicka NB in PvP to replace the Julianos part of her set.
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    Atm my Templar is trying out my Sorcs gear and I quite like it, also worth mentioning the Spell Power Cure set would probably be my 5 piece choice for healing but I've only got 2 pieces atm :)

    3 x Arcane Willpower jewelry

    5 x Julianos

    2 x Torugs Pact(can be 3 pieces with DW)

    Molag Kena shoulders(also could be 2 pieces with DW)

    All pieces are gold except the jewelry. :)

    Also using 5/1/1 configuration.
    Edited by freespirit on January 26, 2016 3:26PM
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    If I get 5 pieces of Combat Physician I want to try that with Trinimac and see how that goes.
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Julianos is a solid set.

    What I currently have on my NB as a magicka DPS/Healer: 5 Julianos, 1 Kena, 3 Willpower, 2 Torug's Pact.
    My templar's off-heal spec is currently wearing hand-me-downs from her big sisters. She has 5 Martial Knowledge, 3 soulshine and I think the rest is Eyes of Mara, but I haven't played her for healing in a month because I was away and unable to do dungeons, so I'd have to double check.

    Kragenac's Hope is a good set too, I hear. I'm going to use that for my Magicka NB in PvP to replace the Julianos part of her set.

    yeah I hear some people running julianos and kragenac's hope. I haven't gotten into the monster sets yet. So kena is a good one to have? I was also thinking about the construct set? for that little dwemer bot that comes and helps it looks useful sometimes idk though.
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    Spell Power Cure is amazing for pretty much everything, however you'll be living in vWGT for the next few months.
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  • AlnilamE
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    I only use one piece of Kena, as that gives spell power. I don't have a helm, but I don't really care for the bonus, particularly for healing.

    The Engine Guardian is a good one to have if you are trouble maintaining resources. I don't have a helm for that, so I never tried it myself.
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  • Lightninvash
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I only use one piece of Kena, as that gives spell power. I don't have a helm, but I don't really care for the bonus, particularly for healing.

    The Engine Guardian is a good one to have if you are trouble maintaining resources. I don't have a helm for that, so I never tried it myself.

    I never seem to have too much of an issue as I use the ward that helps with magicka regen. I just see it used a lot in pvp maybe I could add it to my pvp set once I obtain them.
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Spell Power Cure is amazing for pretty much everything, however you'll be living in vWGT for the next few months.

    spell power cure ill have to look it up and see what the set does haha. I know high spell power = better heals and dmg that's why I liked the crit as well

    EDIT:

    wow this does look nice but is it worth having all 5 pieces or is it better to use 4?

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    Edited by Lightninvash on January 26, 2016 3:34PM
  • freespirit
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    Do you routinely run Inner Light?

    If so the setup I listed above gives me 48.3% crit.

    I'm using the Apprentice Mundus atm for the extra spell damage. :)
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    freespirit wrote: »
    Do you routinely run Inner Light?

    If so the setup I listed above gives me 48.3% crit.

    I'm using the Apprentice Mundus atm for the extra spell damage. :)

    inner light? it doesn't sound familiar and I only have 40.7% with the thief mundus @freespirit
    Edited by Lightninvash on January 26, 2016 3:40PM
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    Mages Guild first skill :)
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  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Well I currently run with Spell Power Cure, but it's hard to get without having decent gear to begin with. My recomendation is:

    3 willpower jewelry
    5 Julianos (best for pve, good for pvp) or Kagrenacs Hope (best for pvp, good for pve)
    2 torugs pact
    1 molag kena

    5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium armor pieces

    Resto + Destro staff for pve healing and buffing (magicka sorcerers and dk's often rely on healer casting Elemental Drain on bosses).

    Resto + Dual Wield for pvp, and pve healing and buffing (if you play with DD's that don't use elemental damage).

    Alternatively:
    Resto + 1hand&shield for pve if you wish to off tank, or pvp for better survival.

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    I use 5 Julianos / 4 Trinimac / 1 Kena / 2 Torug's swords / resto staff (will be Maelstrom if I ever get one).

    I'm really enjoying it, lots of spell damage and solid sustain.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
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    freespirit wrote: »
    Mages Guild first skill :)

    ill look into that skill never really use mage guild skills because I see them as primarily dps and at start I was solely focused on healing only( realizing I was a wet noodle without any dps I changed it a tad).
    Well I currently run with Spell Power Cure, but it's hard to get without having decent gear to begin with. My recomendation is:

    3 willpower jewelry
    5 Julianos (best for pve, good for pvp) or Kagrenacs Hope (best for pvp, good for pve)
    2 torugs pact
    1 molag kena

    5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium armor pieces

    Resto + Destro staff for pve healing and buffing (magicka sorcerers and dk's often rely on healer casting Elemental Drain on bosses).

    Resto + Dual Wield for pvp, and pve healing and buffing (if you play with DD's that don't use elemental damage).

    Alternatively:
    Resto + 1hand&shield for pve if you wish to off tank, or pvp for better survival.

    I think torug is what I have too only its vet 14 that and julianos and nothing fun as far as my jewelry goes. some good info in here thank you ^.^
    wayfarerx wrote: »
    I use 5 Julianos / 4 Trinimac / 1 Kena / 2 Torug's swords / resto staff (will be Maelstrom if I ever get one).

    I'm really enjoying it, lots of spell damage and solid sustain.

    as far as recovery goes is it better to have high recovery or high max magicka or try and utilize a mixture of both?

    EDIT: I am just starting to get into the whole end game competitive type gameplay.
    Edited by Lightninvash on January 26, 2016 3:49PM
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    wow this does look nice but is it worth having all 5 pieces or is it better to use 4?

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    @Lightninvash yes it is worth 5 pieces, just cast 1-2 heals before you engage in combat. I prefer to use Rapid Regeneration but anything goes.


  • willymchilybily
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    @Lightninvash You can have both Julianos and Kagrenacs easily with little fuss. So get the quick res perk, the regen and the DPS and crit from julianos.

    DW Bar = julianos x5
    1H Sword (main hand)
    1H Sword (off hand)
    Feet
    Chest
    Legs

    Staff Bar = Kagrenacs x 5
    2H staff (Main Hand)
    Belt
    Shoulders
    Helm
    gloves

    Jewlery = willpower x3

    ring
    ring
    neck.

    easy to get and a good starting point for any newly max levelled healer/magicka character. just remember to res from healing bar.

    Edited by willymchilybily on January 26, 2016 3:56PM
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    wow this does look nice but is it worth having all 5 pieces or is it better to use 4?

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    @Lightninvash yes it is worth 5 pieces, just cast 1-2 heals before you engage in combat. I prefer to use Rapid Regeneration but anything goes.


    so a mixture of that and which set would be a good end game combination? I see the kena set adds weapon damage that helps even magic users?(this is a tad confusing to me lol)
  • MrDerrikk
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    The 5-pce of SPC is what you're after (oh, and they've changed it now so the buff lasts 10 secs, but only has a 50% chance of proccing, meaning you should keep that Mutagen up!). But it's an amazing set that not only biffs your own heals but increases the Magicka DD chars DPS by a fair bit.
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  • Apherius
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    So I just decided to finish and grind out 2 more levels and get my main to vet 16 instead of being an altoholic. Now I am looking into Solid gear for him. What would be a good set for a healer build that can still do some damage so I am not just a healbot. Just curious so when I finish my armor grind I have an idea on what I want. I do rather like the julianos set( currently wear and another that I cant remember). I run DW and resto staff 5 light 1 med 1 heavy. I would like more crit I recently re rolled my attributes giving me less hp (but healer so...) and like 20% more crit. I am at 40.7% crit and that has seemed to work much better than having the higher hp because I deal more damage and heal harder.

    With this what would be a good armor set for PVE mostly I do pvp and I will need another set for that specifically(I know that much). Any suggestions would be helpful.

    Thanks,

    -Lightninvash

    Hi , for heal and dps ? hum . i like:

    -5 spell power cur
    -2 sword torug
    -maesltrom restoration staff
    -2 kena

    some heal , heal and do 20 K dps simultaneously . for the second boss of the imperial city prison . it's Amazing
  • freespirit
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    @Lightninvash, I would say level Inner Light straight away extra magicka and 10% extra spell crit is too good to miss out on....

    I always have it on both bars and always toggled on, it's got to be worth looking in to........

    Another one that can be helpful for extra spell damage is Structured Entropy, morph of Entropy also Mages Guild, this one also increases health when slotted........

    In a group situation not really best use of a slot but I love it whilst doing solo PVE. :)
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    wayfarerx wrote: »
    I use 5 Julianos / 4 Trinimac / 1 Kena / 2 Torug's swords / resto staff (will be Maelstrom if I ever get one).

    I'm really enjoying it, lots of spell damage and solid sustain.

    as far as recovery goes is it better to have high recovery or high max magicka or try and utilize a mixture of both?

    Well I don't know the specifics WRT the math, but recovery is a big help when you're learning to heal the tougher fights in endgame dungeons. Previously I was running without Trinimac and using 3 Willpower / 1 more Torug's instead. I was having trouble keeping my magicka up even while standing in rune focus and weaving heavy attacks. Switching to use more sustain has been helping a lot when it comes time to heal through certain boss mechanics.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • Lightninvash
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    freespirit wrote: »
    @Lightninvash, I would say level Inner Light straight away extra magicka and 10% extra spell crit is too good to miss out on....

    I always have it on both bars and always toggled on, it's got to be worth looking in to........

    Another one that can be helpful for extra spell damage is Structured Entropy, morph of Entropy also Mages Guild, this one also increases health when slotted........

    In a group situation not really best use of a slot but I love it whilst doing solo PVE. :)

    well that does sound nifty haha. ill prob do a revamp of my skills again haha.
    Apheruis wrote: »
    So I just decided to finish and grind out 2 more levels and get my main to vet 16 instead of being an altoholic. Now I am looking into Solid gear for him. What would be a good set for a healer build that can still do some damage so I am not just a healbot. Just curious so when I finish my armor grind I have an idea on what I want. I do rather like the julianos set( currently wear and another that I cant remember). I run DW and resto staff 5 light 1 med 1 heavy. I would like more crit I recently re rolled my attributes giving me less hp (but healer so...) and like 20% more crit. I am at 40.7% crit and that has seemed to work much better than having the higher hp because I deal more damage and heal harder.

    With this what would be a good armor set for PVE mostly I do pvp and I will need another set for that specifically(I know that much). Any suggestions would be helpful.

    Thanks,

    -Lightninvash

    Hi , for heal and dps ? hum . i like:

    -5 spell power cur
    -2 sword torug
    -maesltrom restoration staff
    -2 kena

    some heal , heal and do 20 K dps simultaneously . for the second boss of the imperial city prison . it's Amazing

    I will have to try and obtain these items and see how it works. sounds pretty awesome though :)
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    The 5-pce of SPC is what you're after (oh, and they've changed it now so the buff lasts 10 secs, but only has a 50% chance of proccing, meaning you should keep that Mutagen up!). But it's an amazing set that not only biffs your own heals but increases the Magicka DD chars DPS by a fair bit.

    Nice so that pic is outdated stil pretty good my thought was not all dps will be magicka on that though
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    wayfarerx wrote: »
    wayfarerx wrote: »
    I use 5 Julianos / 4 Trinimac / 1 Kena / 2 Torug's swords / resto staff (will be Maelstrom if I ever get one).

    I'm really enjoying it, lots of spell damage and solid sustain.

    as far as recovery goes is it better to have high recovery or high max magicka or try and utilize a mixture of both?

    Well I don't know the specifics WRT the math, but recovery is a big help when you're learning to heal the tougher fights in endgame dungeons. Previously I was running without Trinimac and using 3 Willpower / 1 more Torug's instead. I was having trouble keeping my magicka up even while standing in rune focus and weaving heavy attacks. Switching to use more sustain has been helping a lot when it comes time to heal through certain boss mechanics.

    Does anyone use the last resto skill when they hit enemy they gain x life idk if it is worthy of my bar haha. as far as strait healing goes I don't seem to have much issues healing a group and keeping my resources up with my rune focus. I can spit out like 12-15 bols at once if I need( its low because my gear has no enchantments yet :( )
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    wow this does look nice but is it worth having all 5 pieces or is it better to use 4?

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    @Lightninvash yes it is worth 5 pieces, just cast 1-2 heals before you engage in combat. I prefer to use Rapid Regeneration but anything goes.
    so a mixture of that and which set would be a good end game combination? I see the kena set adds weapon damage that helps even magic users?(this is a tad confusing to me lol)
    It's only 1 piece of Molag Kena that provides spell damage + weapon damage, so if you are stamina based you benefit from the weapon damage, and if you are magicka based then you benefit from the spell damage.

    If you wear 5 julianos or kagrenacs hope, then you have 2 slots left for armor. One for Molag Kena head or shoulder, other for Torugs Pact which you can combine with your weapons to gain the set bonuses.

    Some websites show screenshots from PTS, from before DLC's where released, so the information they show is sometimes outdated. I just googled Molag Kena, first image I found was one, where it only shows weapon dmg :P it's outdated information, and the set provides spell power too.
    If you scroll down on this site, you will see the actual Molag Kena 1-piece buff: tamrielfoundry.com/topic/2-17-kitty-zap-endgame-sorcerer-dps-build/



  • nimander99
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    Grats on VR16! Now say bye to it ;)

    Folks above already gave sound advice on sets.
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  • Lightninvash
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    wow this does look nice but is it worth having all 5 pieces or is it better to use 4?

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    @Lightninvash yes it is worth 5 pieces, just cast 1-2 heals before you engage in combat. I prefer to use Rapid Regeneration but anything goes.
    so a mixture of that and which set would be a good end game combination? I see the kena set adds weapon damage that helps even magic users?(this is a tad confusing to me lol)
    It's only 1 piece of Molag Kena that provides spell damage + weapon damage, so if you are stamina based you benefit from the weapon damage, and if you are magicka based then you benefit from the spell damage.

    If you wear 5 julianos or kagrenacs hope, then you have 2 slots left for armor. One for Molag Kena head or shoulder, other for Torugs Pact which you can combine with your weapons to gain the set bonuses.

    Some websites show screenshots from PTS, from before DLC's where released, so the information they show is sometimes outdated. I just googled Molag Kena, first image I found was one, where it only shows weapon dmg :P it's outdated information, and the set provides spell power too.
    If you scroll down on this site, you will see the actual Molag Kena 1-piece buff: tamrielfoundry.com/topic/2-17-kitty-zap-endgame-sorcerer-dps-build/



    so a good set would be 5x julianos 3x willpower jewelry 1x torug (for armor) and do my Dw swords as torug and staff torug(so I can have the set bonuses) until I get the spell power cure set?( and replace that with the julianos?) @failkiwib16_ESO
    nimander99 wrote: »
    Grats on VR16! Now say bye to it ;)

    Folks above already gave sound advice on sets.

    thanks :) and ikr haha but hey I don't have 160 cp yet so that will boost me up a bit ;)( its what I was aiming for basically)
    Edited by Lightninvash on January 26, 2016 4:33PM
  • Flameheart
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    I use Kagrenac for heals and Julianos as magicka DD.

    Heals: 5 x Kagrenac, Torug helm, Torug weapons, willpower jewelry (arcane, cost reduction or magicka reg depends on your personal playstyle), until you get a Molag Kena shoulder use any undaunted shoulder piece which grants 1k life.

    Julianos: same as above just 5 x Julianos, willpower with spell power enchantments.

    Always: 5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium (I prefer using chest as heavy and leg armor in medium). Still using "divine" for small armor pieces and "infused" for large ones. Maybe I change all to divine for the DD set.

    As mundus meanwhile I use the Thief always, because upgrading the above stuff to legendary still keeps you at 40k+ magicka and + crit isn't bad as a healer too. In good groups you will add support dps as a healer half of the time anyways and crit favors that even more.

    Edited by Flameheart on January 28, 2016 7:03AM
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  • Lightninvash
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    Flameheart wrote: »
    I use Kagrenac for heals and Julianos as magicka DD.

    Heals: 5 x Kagrenac, Torug helm, Torug weapons, willpower jewelry (arcane, cost reduction or magicka reg depends on your personal playstyle), until you get a Molag Kena shoulder use any undaunted shoulder piece which grants 1k life.

    Julianos: same as above just 5 x Julianos, willpower with spell power enchantments.

    Always: 5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium. Still using "divine" for small armor pieces and "infused" for large ones. Maybe I change all to divine for the DD set.

    As mundus I use the Thief always.

    I am running thief right now but not sure what is the best though I have seen some Templars with like 75%+ crit haha idk how but hey im ok with my 40.7% id rather 50%+ because more chance to crit and all... but hey who knows.
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    @Lightninvash yes :3 It's viable for templar magicka DD's and healers. Spell power cure is not a requirement for healers, but it boosts the overall damage of the team enough, to be extremely wanted in most teams, specially for trial teams.

    Also how did you spend your champion points? Your crit seems a bit low, considering that you run with thief mundus...

    Btw. I also have thief ...I miss my regen from The Atronach, but I give better heals and more damage with thief Q_Q
    Edited by failkiwib16_ESO on January 26, 2016 5:16PM
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    @Lightninvash yes :3 It's viable for templar magicka DD's and healers. Spell power cure is not a requirement for healers, but it boosts the overall damage of the team enough, to be extremely wanted in most teams, specially for trial teams.

    Also how did you spend your champion points? Your crit seems a bit low, considering that you run with thief mundus...

    Btw. I also have thief ...I miss my regen from The Atronach, but I give better heals and more damage with thief Q_Q

    my cp is kinda speratic haha I was winging it with them so theres not many actual usefull things in there for me I need to reroll them tbh :#@failkiwib16_ESO
    Edited by Lightninvash on January 26, 2016 5:27PM
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