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Maelstrom arena!! seriusly

  • alfoner
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    A good game should have some content that caters to elite hardcore players, and have most content cater to more casual players. ESO does that.

    Stop trying to take away something just because it doesn't cater to you. Especially when there is literally no need for you to do it. If you're a casual player and you only like easy content then spend your time in the other 99% of the game. You don't need Maelstrom weapons, and your little tantrum shows that you don't deserve them.

    am i trying to take it a way? NOPE never said that. you better learn to READ english!! MISTER
  • Gonza
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    :'(
    Play for fun!
  • UrQuan
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    alfoner wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    A good game should have some content that caters to elite hardcore players, and have most content cater to more casual players. ESO does that.

    Stop trying to take away something just because it doesn't cater to you. Especially when there is literally no need for you to do it. If you're a casual player and you only like easy content then spend your time in the other 99% of the game. You don't need Maelstrom weapons, and your little tantrum shows that you don't deserve them.

    am i trying to take it a way? NOPE never said that. you better learn to READ english!! MISTER
    You are trying to get them to take away the difficulty of vMSA because you want easy content. So yes, you are trying to take that away from people who like to do hard content.
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  • pronkg
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    alfoner wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Daveheart wrote: »
    Heindrich wrote: »
    May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

    But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

    I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

    As a member of a guild that's almost made exclusively of the target audience for min/maxed gear and difficult content, I don't really know a single one of us that doesn't want the maelstrom arena to go die in a fire. It's a terrible piece of content full of bugs and unnecessarily long. To top it all off, it's solo content in an MMO, not to mention the single longest piece of content they've ever introduced. I mean I guess you can just hop in TS with your friends and all start at the same time so that you can rage whenever your character inexplicably starts charging a full heavy attack and circling a target that's already dead while the boss 1-shots you.


    It's strange, if your guild is made of only the target audience and you all hate it. Did ZoS made a mistake on targeting?

    I for example love it and lots of my guildm8s do as well and lots of us nail it pretty hard and have come to find it quite easy in the end.

    It makes you rage at first but when you figure it out it's quite easy, most of us are looking at deathless runs now. I've just got mine today on maybe my 20th run

    they did make mistake! also you can same what even you want , i am not gonna believe that. i can always log on the other account and tellbig stories about when we killed the HC garrosh at SOO.

    I can link you the achievement if you are on EU
  • Dubhliam
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    Casual troll will be casual.
    >>>Detailed Justice System Concept thread<<<
  • alfoner
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    its pointless to come to forums and tell anything. only these HC tryhards are here like i said before. 0 casuals and pll who dont wanna tryhard. cya HF
  • Dubhliam
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    alfoner wrote: »
    its pointless to come to forums and tell anything. only these HC tryhards are here like i said before. 0 casuals and pll who dont wanna tryhard. cya HF

    How can you call yourself casual and cry for the best possible weapon?

    I remain with my statement: troll.
    Edited by Dubhliam on January 19, 2016 12:16AM
    >>>Detailed Justice System Concept thread<<<
  • alfoner
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    tell me what am i ?
  • Dawnblade
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    pronkg wrote: »
    Daveheart wrote: »
    Heindrich wrote: »
    May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

    But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

    I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

    As a member of a guild that's almost made exclusively of the target audience for min/maxed gear and difficult content, I don't really know a single one of us that doesn't want the maelstrom arena to go die in a fire. It's a terrible piece of content full of bugs and unnecessarily long. To top it all off, it's solo content in an MMO, not to mention the single longest piece of content they've ever introduced. I mean I guess you can just hop in TS with your friends and all start at the same time so that you can rage whenever your character inexplicably starts charging a full heavy attack and circling a target that's already dead while the boss 1-shots you.


    It's strange, if your guild is made of only the target audience and you all hate it. Did ZoS made a mistake on targeting?

    If ZoS was trying to appeal to the min / max difficult GROUP content crowd, then yes they made a mistake.
    Edited by Dawnblade on January 19, 2016 12:34AM
  • Lollapalosaa
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    I think vMA difficulty is quite perfect. As addressed above, the problem is all the bugs and wtf-situations.
    I've played it 10 times now, and completed 8 times. Stamina sorcerer. Swearing alot while playing, laughing even more when completing.. and all the small new things you learn every round makes it overall enjoyable.
  • UrQuan
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    alfoner wrote: »
    tell me what am i ?
    Trust me, you don't want an answer to that.
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  • NateAssassin
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    l2p
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  • Kammakazi
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    Don't worry, it's already been confirmed that they're adding a Maelstrom Weapon Pack to the Crown Store some time in the future.
  • JD2013
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    They're adding a save feature to vMSA at some point soon. That's more than enough.
    Sweetrolls for all!

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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • alfoner
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    if they are ading that crow store taht is good ! cos then pll who are at work have money but not time and HC players have time and not money so that works ^^
  • attackjet
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    "Omg I want the best armor but I don't want to work for it, GRRR I AM SO MAD"

    Dude, seriously calm down and learn how to play.

    I guarantee you this guy would absolutely love some pay to win content in this game.

    sad
  • attackjet
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    alfoner wrote: »
    if they are ading that crow store taht is good ! cos then pll who are at work have money but not time and HC players have time and not money so that works ^^

    He is being what we call sarcastic.

    And trust me other people have money from working (like me) and even with a lot of money to spend on the game, they would absolutely hate to see this game have any pay to win content

    And I am a hardcore gamer who makes triple what your illiterate whiny little baby a** makes.

    You are the epic definition of what true literate gamers hate.
    Edited by attackjet on January 19, 2016 11:28AM
  • OrphanHelgen
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    I suffer with chronic fatigue syndrome and due to that, I stoped playing eso after this patch with maelstrom. I now play heartstone and diablo, even league of legends are more rewarding then this game atm.
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  • Anhedonie
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    Oh boy, here we go again.
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  • AJ_1988
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    I haven't laughed so hard for while. Might have to get a bedpan For when I read this again so I don't have to rush to the toilet from laughing too hard lol.

  • Jhunn
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    alfoner wrote: »
    STFU like i said before I DONT CARE ABOUT MY GRAMMAR so GTFO!
    This will probably help your cause a lot.
    Gave up.
  • alfoner
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    if you ''HC gamers like to rage and be a mad thats fine with me . i like to enjoy the games not to fuckign feel stressed adn pissed ^^ that is what i would call a sickness and addiction if you wanna feel anger and madness.
  • AJ_1988
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    alfoner wrote: »
    if you ''HC gamers like to rage and be a mad thats fine with me . i like to enjoy the games not to fuckign feel stressed adn pissed ^^ that is what i would call a sickness and addiction if you wanna feel anger and madness.

    Then stop getting angry. Using that sorta language is a sure way to get banned. Tho that wouldn't be a bad thing. It will do us a favour
  • attackjet
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    alfoner wrote: »
    if you ''HC gamers like to rage and be a mad thats fine with me . i like to enjoy the games not to fuckign feel stressed adn pissed ^^ that is what i would call a sickness and addiction if you wanna feel anger and madness.

    Umm... I don't ever get angry at the game. But guess who does? YOU.

    You wrote a paragraph and a half on why you think you deserve something you're not even willing to work for.

    Get good and the game, it dosnt take a hardcore player to beat simple arenas.
  • willymchilybily
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    Handing out master weapons, for a normal completion isnt going to happen. If you arent hardcore player why do you care if you have the best weapons in the game. You dont need them to complete molag kena you just stated whats the issue?

    Eso is a progression. both in level,crafting, improving gear, champion point count, and learning the class better. You cant expect to do the hardest content in one go with poor gear/cp. likewise, you cant expect just because you are in V16 gold gear with 501 CP you will walk through content on Veteran difficulty first time.

    The content difficulty is set at a level that those with good gear and are good players will be challenged, until they learn the mechanics inside out.

    It took me numerous deaths for that first vMA completion spread over the course of a few weeks. and I'm certainly not a competent try hard gamer. my molage kena helm was only v1 (impenetrable), my armor was all purple and my CP were around 360. had i invested time in crafting and progressing (doing writs for mats) i'd not have had to struggle so much.

    And when something beat me i didnt complain, i asked on here, on the forums how do people do boss such and such. I got some great advice and i persevered.
    Edited by willymchilybily on January 19, 2016 11:55AM
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  • Khaos_Bane
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    Heindrich wrote: »
    May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

    But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

    I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

    Agreed. This is exactly why br15 versions should drop from nMA. It's really not a complicated solution at all. In fact, the solution is so simple it blows my mind that ZOS didn't implement them to begin with.

  • alfoner
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    attackjet wrote: »
    alfoner wrote: »
    if you ''HC gamers like to rage and be a mad thats fine with me . i like to enjoy the games not to fuckign feel stressed adn pissed ^^ that is what i would call a sickness and addiction if you wanna feel anger and madness.

    Umm... I don't ever get angry at the game. But guess who does? YOU.

    You wrote a paragraph and a half on why you think you deserve something you're not even willing to work for.

    Get good and the game, it dosnt take a hardcore player to beat simple arenas.

    i am disgust seen you nerd harrassing me. i am going to report everysingle one of you who says anything about me when the TOPIC was on MAELSTROM ARENA and not on me. grow up
  • Aunatar
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    Dude. Just level a magicka sorcerer and farm your easy-mode-vMSA :'D
    Seriously, read a guide for msa mechanics and get your 300k+ score at your first attempt.
    If you can't do it then you are probably using wrong gear and tactics: don't complain about difficulty and ask for tips instead.
    But you are 100% allowed to complain about lag, bugs, crashes, high latency. Those are the ultimate killers of msa.
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  • AJ_1988
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    alfoner wrote: »
    attackjet wrote: »
    alfoner wrote: »
    if you ''HC gamers like to rage and be a mad thats fine with me . i like to enjoy the games not to fuckign feel stressed adn pissed ^^ that is what i would call a sickness and addiction if you wanna feel anger and madness.

    Umm... I don't ever get angry at the game. But guess who does? YOU.

    You wrote a paragraph and a half on why you think you deserve something you're not even willing to work for.

    Get good and the game, it dosnt take a hardcore player to beat simple arenas.

    i am disgust seen you nerd harrassing me. i am going to report everysingle one of you who says anything about me when the TOPIC was on MAELSTROM ARENA and not on me. grow up

    Lol. The only person that needs action taken against them is YOU. Stop swearing and trolling and you might get somewhere
  • Decado
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    So just to sum up this thread,

    You want malestrom to be easier as you feel it's to hard,

    You tell anyone who disagrees with you to play another game with higher difficulty,

    May I suggest you play a game with lower difficulty? You know fallout 4 has a great little feature, you open up the console and type on TGM, and hey guess what, you have your easy fun game that won't stress you out
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