Maelstrom arena!! seriusly

alfoner · January 2016

And here we go again! so you have made this maelstrom arena and these maelstrom weapons that only drop from the arena on veteran mode. WTF! i have tryed to make the vet mode and wasted so many hours of gaming there. I personally hate super hard games tahst why i dont play darksouls 2 and there is a reasons . i like games cos they will make happy and i will have good time with my friends playing them. this arena doesnt do any of those! its fustraiting makes you angry cos you want and really need taht malestrom wep for your build. what you want to test. and these weapons only drop from there? WTF and why not on normal mode. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE CONTENT TAHT ONLY ONLY!!!! HARDCORE GAMERS CAN DO! how about me and other casual and players who wanna play games for fun not for freaking leader board and show of the world who is the best! GG. same thing happened with white gold tower when it came. and i am so happy taht you nerfed it so i can enjoy playing it with my frineds who are not also ''tryhard gamers''. and we love it so now we have also a opportunity to farm that awesome kena helm. also maelstrom arena have so many bugs that makes the boss mecanics RNG. i would like if there would be a little chance you to get taht wep from normal mode on last box . just make it even possible. now i jsut feel freaking bad . that the game that i love/loved do things that i cant enjoy and literally forces me to play that rage arena and i will ruin my day insted of relaxing playing games after i get of from work.

Valrien · January 2016

1. L2Spell
2. L2Capitalise

Kidding, but seriously though, take it slow and learn the mechanics. Yes, you will die. You'll get angry. You'll want to punch a hole in your wall or however else you deal with anger...but it can be done. But don't let that dying and numerous holes in your wall be for nothing, you can learn from it. Assess your build, your gear, etc.,. and find out where you're lacking. Watch some tutorials from people who've already done it, there are plenty out there. Remember, what DOES kill you makes you stronger!

By the way, the weapons are strong but they aren't necessary for builds. Just keep in mind that hardcore people play the game too, and much of the content is easy (even the arena once you've done it enough times). They deserve hard content as much as the casual players deserve easy content.

Wollust · January 2016

Casuals - Ruining games for everyone else since ever.

Heindrich · January 2016

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

alfoner · January 2016

exactly and i am casual and i love playing easy content. i live normal live and do hard work that is enoght for me thats why i love game to something else than that tryharding. i dont like that why of thing that if i waste doing something stupid in a video game what i dosent even like its not worth it not at all i absolutely hate it and tahts why i wanted to bring this up cos now the game is more favors for hardcore gamers. i wanna step up and hold casual players side too. casual pll dont even come to forums and these HC players does thast why games favor more HC players. also normal pll dont have that much time to do these content and hours of hours of practicing about the arena!
also MISTER British English writer i am not from a english speaking country so there is no reason to judge me for English. that is really inappropriate .

Overbowed · January 2016

Nice troll.

Destruent · January 2016

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

V15 master Maelstromeweapons would be useless, bc they are even worse than setless V16(gold)-weapons. At least i think they are ;-)
I agree with anything else...if you are a really casual gamer, it doesn't matter that much if you have those weapons or not

Edit: @OP: if this game would favor hardcore gamers in PvE it would be much harder...Most good players can easily do vet inis in a group of two, normal inis can usually be soloed. This shouldn't be possible at all in my opinion...

nordickittyhawk · January 2016

its ok when you complete it you can have all the glory set peices as a love letter from zenimax

sirrmattus · January 2016

alfoner wrote: »

And here we go again! so you have made this maelstrom arena and these maelstrom weapons that only drop from the arena on veteran mode. WTF! i have tryed to make the vet mode and wasted so many hours of gaming there. I personally hate super hard games tahst why i dont play darksouls 2 and there is a reasons . i like games cos they will make happy and i will have good time with my friends playing them. this arena doesnt do any of those! its fustraiting makes you angry cos you want and really need taht malestrom wep for your build. what you want to test. and these weapons only drop from there? WTF and why not on normal mode. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE CONTENT TAHT ONLY ONLY!!!! HARDCORE GAMERS CAN DO! how about me and other casual and players who wanna play games for fun not for freaking leader board and show of the world who is the best! GG. same thing happened with white gold tower when it came. and i am so happy taht you nerfed it so i can enjoy playing it with my frineds who are not also ''tryhard gamers''. and we love it so now we have also a opportunity to farm that awesome kena helm. also maelstrom arena have so many bugs that makes the boss mecanics RNG. i would like if there would be a little chance you to get taht wep from normal mode on last box . just make it even possible. now i jsut feel freaking bad . that the game that i love/loved do things that i cant enjoy and literally forces me to play that rage arena and i will ruin my day insted of relaxing playing games after i get of from work.

everyone says 1000+ deaths til pass

Spacemonkey · January 2016

or just keep making easy stuff and hard stuff, and get rid of @)#(%*@#% bind on PICKUP.

That way crazy entitled people that complain all the time can get told to show the money or shut up, instead of just the slightly griefing L2P.

CP5 · January 2016

Destruent wrote: »

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

V15 master Maelstromeweapons would be useless, bc they are even worse than setless V16(gold)-weapons. At least i think they are ;-)
I agree with anything else...if you are a really casual gamer, it doesn't matter that much if you have those weapons or not

Edit: @OP: if this game would favor hardcore gamers in PvE it would be much harder...Most good players can easily do vet inis in a group of two, normal inis can usually be soloed. This shouldn't be possible at all in my opinion...

Just want to chime in here on this kind of comment and the "you don't need it" comments. Yes, sure, less power, but if someone doesn't care to min-max do you think they will miss the minor damage bonus 1 vet level adds to the items raw damage stat? I would love to use maelstrom weapons not for the damage, but for the ability altering enchant. They make their linked skills interesting and in some cases usable. Who uses WoE? If you have the staff you can kind of justify using it with the weapons enchant. Not to forget many people, even those who only partially optimize their builds have orphaned weapons that either add one weak trait bonus or none at all.

Destruent · January 2016

Spacemonkey wrote: »

or just keep making easy stuff and hard stuff, and get rid of @)#(%*@#% bind on PICKUP.

That way crazy entitled people that complain all the time can get told to show the money or shut up, instead of just the slightly griefing L2P.

Would be great if atleast some of the equipment could be sold

Hope499 · January 2016

Damn man....just terrible.

You do realize there are only about FIVE difficult things in the game? Vet DSA, VET maelstrom, IC prison on vet and trials....

Stop trying to ruin the game for others.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Hope499 wrote: »

Damn man....just terrible.

You do realize there are only about FIVE difficult things in the game? Vet DSA, VET maelstrom, IC prison on vet and trials....

Stop trying to ruin the game for others.

Trial haven't been hard since IC
Neither has VDSA

The only hard thing is VET prison and VMSA

alfoner · January 2016

if you want hard games go play taht darksouls2 BTW there will be new darksouls coming soon go play that. this games basic idea is not : TO BE TOO HARD!

pronkg · January 2016

You do know you have the option not to do it right?

Decado · January 2016

If your a causal gamer who doesn't care about leaderboards then why do you need malestrom weapons and an "awesome kena head" I have completed every piece of PvE content in this game without the weapon, it isn't even needed for more serious players (nice to have Ofcourse but not actually needed)

Please stop asking for NERFS on everything, instead how about asking for normal to be made harder and then drop V15 weapons, you want that and I guarantee you most people would have no objection because it won't effect the people who can do veteran,

Oh and they are already bringing in a save function for vet, so that'll help

Tonnopesce · January 2016

I don't care the weapon i want the GLORY!!!

But seriusly the VMA is a little bit too hard... it took me 1 month to go tru the first arena not even Dark souls is at this level, VMA reminds me the Weapons from the FF series, something that only the 1% of the players complete it.

pronkg · January 2016

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't care the weapon i want the GLORY!!!

But seriusly the VMA is a little bit too hard... it took me 1 month to go tru the first arena not even Dark souls is at this level, VMA reminds me the Weapons from the FF series, something that only the 1% of the players complete it.

It's certainly not the 1% numbers are rising. Loads of people from my guild finish it and more and more are finishing kt

Tonnopesce · January 2016

pronkg wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't care the weapon i want the GLORY!!!

But seriusly the VMA is a little bit too hard... it took me 1 month to go tru the first arena not even Dark souls is at this level, VMA reminds me the Weapons from the FF series, something that only the 1% of the players complete it.

It's certainly not the 1% numbers are rising. Loads of people from my guild finish it and more and more are finishing kt

Yeah i agree that with time this thing will become more and more easy now i'm stuck at the 6th arena and i believe that in a month or two i will be able to complete it, is something frustrating for a casual player.

I personally like the challenge and this game lack

pronkg · January 2016

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

pronkg wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't care the weapon i want the GLORY!!!

But seriusly the VMA is a little bit too hard... it took me 1 month to go tru the first arena not even Dark souls is at this level, VMA reminds me the Weapons from the FF series, something that only the 1% of the players complete it.

It's certainly not the 1% numbers are rising. Loads of people from my guild finish it and more and more are finishing kt

Yeah i agree that with time this thing will become more and more easy now i'm stuck at the 6th arena and i believe that in a month or two i will be able to complete it, still, is something frustrating for a casual player.

True

I think it's a good thing there's some minor content for the players who like a challenge.

If you can get to stage 6 you can surely beat it eventually

Unsent.Soul · January 2016

alfoner wrote: »

if you want hard games go play taht darksouls2 BTW there will be new darksouls coming soon go play that. this games basic idea is not : TO BE TOO HARD!

You are telling us, to go play a challenging game, so this game, can be easy, for casuals.....? ***?

Decado · January 2016

Btw it is possible in sub par gear aswel, when it first came out I went in still using martial knowledge and all my V14 gear, got to the last boss, got him down to 8% at one point, still had over 400 lives left aswel but called it as it got to late,

I'm not saying it's easy because I know it's really not, but keep trying learn the mechanics, once the save function comes out you can even take breaks and just take you time do an arena a day for example,

You will feel so much better having beat it after all the hard work, I mean who would care if you face rolled it first time like a lot of people did normal, you'd be bored of it in about a day

Ethromelb14_ESO · January 2016

alfoner wrote: »

And here we go again! so you have made this maelstrom arena and these maelstrom weapons that only drop from the arena on veteran mode. WTF! i have tryed to make the vet mode and wasted so many hours of gaming there. I personally hate super hard games tahst why i dont play darksouls 2 and there is a reasons . i like games cos they will make happy and i will have good time with my friends playing them. this arena doesnt do any of those! its fustraiting makes you angry cos you want and really need taht malestrom wep for your build. what you want to test. and these weapons only drop from there? WTF and why not on normal mode. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE CONTENT TAHT ONLY ONLY!!!! HARDCORE GAMERS CAN DO! how about me and other casual and players who wanna play games for fun not for freaking leader board and show of the world who is the best! GG. same thing happened with white gold tower when it came. and i am so happy taht you nerfed it so i can enjoy playing it with my frineds who are not also ''tryhard gamers''. and we love it so now we have also a opportunity to farm that awesome kena helm. also maelstrom arena have so many bugs that makes the boss mecanics RNG. i would like if there would be a little chance you to get taht wep from normal mode on last box . just make it even possible. now i jsut feel freaking bad . that the game that i love/loved do things that i cant enjoy and literally forces me to play that rage arena and i will ruin my day insted of relaxing playing games after i get of from work.

For the love of God, the word is 'that', dude. Sound it out . . . {THE- AT}.

Daveheart · January 2016

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

As a member of a guild that's almost made exclusively of the target audience for min/maxed gear and difficult content, I don't really know a single one of us that doesn't want the maelstrom arena to go die in a fire. It's a terrible piece of content full of bugs and unnecessarily long. To top it all off, it's solo content in an MMO, not to mention the single longest piece of content they've ever introduced. I mean I guess you can just hop in TS with your friends and all start at the same time so that you can rage whenever your character inexplicably starts charging a full heavy attack and circling a target that's already dead while the boss 1-shots you.

Destruent · January 2016

CP5 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

V15 master Maelstromeweapons would be useless, bc they are even worse than setless V16(gold)-weapons. At least i think they are ;-)
I agree with anything else...if you are a really casual gamer, it doesn't matter that much if you have those weapons or not

Edit: @OP: if this game would favor hardcore gamers in PvE it would be much harder...Most good players can easily do vet inis in a group of two, normal inis can usually be soloed. This shouldn't be possible at all in my opinion...

Just want to chime in here on this kind of comment and the "you don't need it" comments. Yes, sure, less power, but if someone doesn't care to min-max do you think they will miss the minor damage bonus 1 vet level adds to the items raw damage stat? I would love to use maelstrom weapons not for the damage, but for the ability altering enchant. They make their linked skills interesting and in some cases usable. Who uses WoE? If you have the staff you can kind of justify using it with the weapons enchant. Not to forget many people, even those who only partially optimize their builds have orphaned weapons that either add one weak trait bonus or none at all.

hm...didn't thought about this

PS: Don't underestimate WoE on a magicka DK, it does great ST-DPS. I'd even use it without a maelstrome-staff.

alfoner · January 2016

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

alfoner wrote: »

And here we go again! so you have made this maelstrom arena and these maelstrom weapons that only drop from the arena on veteran mode. WTF! i have tryed to make the vet mode and wasted so many hours of gaming there. I personally hate super hard games tahst why i dont play darksouls 2 and there is a reasons . i like games cos they will make happy and i will have good time with my friends playing them. this arena doesnt do any of those! its fustraiting makes you angry cos you want and really need taht malestrom wep for your build. what you want to test. and these weapons only drop from there? WTF and why not on normal mode. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE CONTENT TAHT ONLY ONLY!!!! HARDCORE GAMERS CAN DO! how about me and other casual and players who wanna play games for fun not for freaking leader board and show of the world who is the best! GG. same thing happened with white gold tower when it came. and i am so happy taht you nerfed it so i can enjoy playing it with my frineds who are not also ''tryhard gamers''. and we love it so now we have also a opportunity to farm that awesome kena helm. also maelstrom arena have so many bugs that makes the boss mecanics RNG. i would like if there would be a little chance you to get taht wep from normal mode on last box . just make it even possible. now i jsut feel freaking bad . that the game that i love/loved do things that i cant enjoy and literally forces me to play that rage arena and i will ruin my day insted of relaxing playing games after i get of from work.

For the love of God, the word is 'that', dude. Sound it out . . . {THE- AT}.

STFU like i said before I DONT CARE ABOUT MY GRAMMAR so GTFO!

pronkg · January 2016

Daveheart wrote: »

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

As a member of a guild that's almost made exclusively of the target audience for min/maxed gear and difficult content, I don't really know a single one of us that doesn't want the maelstrom arena to go die in a fire. It's a terrible piece of content full of bugs and unnecessarily long. To top it all off, it's solo content in an MMO, not to mention the single longest piece of content they've ever introduced. I mean I guess you can just hop in TS with your friends and all start at the same time so that you can rage whenever your character inexplicably starts charging a full heavy attack and circling a target that's already dead while the boss 1-shots you.

It's strange, if your guild is made of only the target audience and you all hate it. Did ZoS made a mistake on targeting?

I for example love it and lots of my guildm8s do as well and lots of us nail it pretty hard and have come to find it quite easy in the end.

It makes you rage at first but when you figure it out it's quite easy, most of us are looking at deathless runs now. I've just got mine today on maybe my 20th run

UrQuan · January 2016

A good game should have some content that caters to elite hardcore players, and have most content cater to more casual players. ESO does that.

Stop trying to take away something just because it doesn't cater to you. Especially when there is literally no need for you to do it. If you're a casual player and you only like easy content then spend your time in the other 99% of the game. You don't need Maelstrom weapons, and your little tantrum shows that you don't deserve them.

deleted220701-004865 · January 2016

I think the real victims of challenging content are individuals who have no thumbs. Why are people with no thumbs being singled out and blocked from certain dungeons? D*ck move, ZoS.

alfoner · January 2016

pronkg wrote: »

Daveheart wrote: »

Heindrich wrote: »

May I refer you to this, particularly the 2nd conflict I mentioned that is directly relevant here.

But in short. If you are a casual gamer, you shouldn't care about min/max'd builds. Maelstorm weapons are not needed to complete anything in the game.

I agree that VR15 Maelstorm weapons should drop in nMA (which should be made a bit harder) but... calm down and just bear in mind that the interests of the elites are just as valid as yours.

As a member of a guild that's almost made exclusively of the target audience for min/maxed gear and difficult content, I don't really know a single one of us that doesn't want the maelstrom arena to go die in a fire. It's a terrible piece of content full of bugs and unnecessarily long. To top it all off, it's solo content in an MMO, not to mention the single longest piece of content they've ever introduced. I mean I guess you can just hop in TS with your friends and all start at the same time so that you can rage whenever your character inexplicably starts charging a full heavy attack and circling a target that's already dead while the boss 1-shots you.

It's strange, if your guild is made of only the target audience and you all hate it. Did ZoS made a mistake on targeting?

I for example love it and lots of my guildm8s do as well and lots of us nail it pretty hard and have come to find it quite easy in the end.

It makes you rage at first but when you figure it out it's quite easy, most of us are looking at deathless runs now. I've just got mine today on maybe my 20th run

they did make mistake! also you can same what even you want , i am not gonna believe that. i can always log on the other account and tellbig stories about when we killed the HC garrosh at SOO.