PvP is so bad right now...

Zyle

What PvP is now:


What PvP should be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WgT9gy4zQA

Lava_Croft

PvP these days is nothing but zergs, lag and broken CC.

OdinForge

I feel like I cannot even PvP anymore, every time I get into a campaign I'm hit with relentless lag and poor frames. Haderus used to be my hideaway from this kind of BS. PvP is just dominated by large ball groups, I'm sick of getting stealth bombed with barriers and DPS ultimate's by invisible groups of 10+ players.

I'm sick of how long it takes devs to fix bugs like Axe bleed and Reverb stun, and many other bugs they just flat out ignore.

I'm sick of doing reduced damage, while my opponents stack together and spam heals and barriers, 1.7 *** this game.

I'm sick of how many mats it costs to make new gear, I'm sick of the lack of AP gear. How has this even been allowed to happen, what is ZOS doing all day.

Wrobel and Wheeler better make some magic happen on the 15th.

WHERE IS RICH LAMBERT

Minno

Been leveling a DK alt.
Hopped into Haderus last night for a bit before bed and had a decent time. I can't imagine it during EST primetime .

We probably needed chillrend to be available at this point.

TheBull

sirston wrote: »

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WRX wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

The fight at Bleaks on Haderus between now and 20 minutes ago, was so laggy I could barely cast.

40 reds 40 blues? Not really a blob thing either, it looked like a handful of smaller groups on each side. (was personally in a group of five)

But the lag was ridiculous.

I reverted to playing a game that is in korean just so i dont have to play eso all the time.

How much korean do I know? Well, I'm not even sure im spelling it right.

theres an english patch for it. and it comes out this year and your buddys Havoc is playing it.

Oh boy here we go again. My boat just completed yesterday. I took it to an Island to do some fishing. I thought I could put down the sword. Once again it seems the people will need me.

mchermie

RIP
When leveling an alt is more fun than pvp..

riverdragon72

Wish I could find a post from Paul Sage just before he..ummm ... went to work somewhere else...It was short, truthful and now unfindable lol

Gilvoth

OdinForge wrote: »

I feel like I cannot even PvP anymore, every time I get into a campaign I'm hit with relentless lag and poor frames. Haderus used to be my hideaway from this kind of BS. PvP is just dominated by large ball groups, I'm sick of getting stealth bombed with barriers and DPS ultimate's by invisible groups of 10+ players.

I'm sick of how long it takes devs to fix bugs like Axe bleed and Reverb stun, and many other bugs they just flat out ignore.

I'm sick of doing reduced damage, while my opponents stack together and spam heals and barriers, 1.7 *** this game.

I'm sick of how many mats it costs to make new gear, I'm sick of the lack of AP gear. How has this even been allowed to happen, what is ZOS doing all day.

Wrobel and Wheeler better make some magic happen on the 15th.

WHERE IS RICH LAMBERT

exactly my thoughts ^

OdinForge

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

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OdinForge wrote: »

I feel like I cannot even PvP anymore, every time I get into a campaign I'm hit with relentless lag and poor frames. Haderus used to be my hideaway from this kind of BS. PvP is just dominated by large ball groups, I'm sick of getting stealth bombed with barriers and DPS ultimate's by invisible groups of 10+ players.

I'm sick of how long it takes devs to fix bugs like Axe bleed and Reverb stun, and many other bugs they just flat out ignore.

I'm sick of doing reduced damage, while my opponents stack together and spam heals and barriers, 1.7 *** this game.

I'm sick of how many mats it costs to make new gear, I'm sick of the lack of AP gear. How has this even been allowed to happen, what is ZOS doing all day.

Wrobel and Wheeler better make some magic happen on the 15th.

WHERE IS RICH LAMBERT

exactly my thoughts ^

I'm *** losing my guild to games like Rocket League, come on Zenimax!!

PvP sucks, you can't ever silence me!

#cantstopwontstop
#idemandwrobel

eventide03b14a_ESO

OdinForge wrote: »

I'm *** losing my guild to games like Rocket League, come on Zenimax!!

Don't forget Fallout 4.

KenaPKK

OdinForge wrote: »

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dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

I feel like I cannot even PvP anymore, every time I get into a campaign I'm hit with relentless lag and poor frames. Haderus used to be my hideaway from this kind of BS. PvP is just dominated by large ball groups, I'm sick of getting stealth bombed with barriers and DPS ultimate's by invisible groups of 10+ players.

I'm sick of how long it takes devs to fix bugs like Axe bleed and Reverb stun, and many other bugs they just flat out ignore.

I'm sick of doing reduced damage, while my opponents stack together and spam heals and barriers, 1.7 *** this game.

I'm sick of how many mats it costs to make new gear, I'm sick of the lack of AP gear. How has this even been allowed to happen, what is ZOS doing all day.

Wrobel and Wheeler better make some magic happen on the 15th.

WHERE IS RICH LAMBERT

exactly my thoughts ^

I'm *** losing my guild to games like Rocket League, come on Zenimax!!

PvP sucks, you can't ever silence me!

#cantstopwontstop
#idemandwrobel

frozywozy

Pchela wrote: »

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MishMash wrote: »

I am not 100% sure that it has to do with with all the calculations. Example, a full raid was moving stealth near a keep the closer they got the Ping went higher and higher. So I ask this .... what does it all mean Basil?

For years I've tried to capture it, and I've come close, so very close, but each time its narrowly evaded my grasp! Not a corner of Cyrodiil is safe while Zergigan is at large. There's no evil scheme it wouldn't concoct. No depravity it wouldn't commit. Who knows what dastardly scheme that villian may be plotting even as we speak.

wot

osnernb16_ESO

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Wish I could find a post from Paul Sage just before he..ummm ... went to work somewhere else...It was short, truthful and now unfindable lol

I think you mean this maybe??
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157157/update-on-cyrodiil-performance/p1

and the player based reaction here
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157186/pvp-is-pretty-much-dead-paul-sages-post

Kartalin

KenaPKK wrote: »

Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

Kena, man, there are so many bad yellows on TF and Had that we wish we could farm them ourselves.

They're not too bold without us until the other factions log off. We wish that wasn't the case. Pvdoor is just incredibly boring, but they're new I guess. We also wish that when another faction comes in and takes some keeps they'd stick around to defend.

Honestly as long as things are the way they are it'd be really great if pop caps could be lowered and maybe another campaign added while lag is hopefully worked out. And IC population separated from Cyrodiil population. We've been in some great competitive fights on campaigns that had two bars for each faction. Even three bars per faction seems more reasonable (depending on group tactics/dynamics) than whatever the current lock numbers are.

FENGRUSH

milthalas wrote: »

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KenaPKK wrote: »

Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

Kena, man, there are so many bad yellows on TF and Had that we wish we could farm them ourselves.

lol

riverdragon72

osnernb16_ESO wrote: »

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riverdragon72 wrote: »

Wish I could find a post from Paul Sage just before he..ummm ... went to work somewhere else...It was short, truthful and now unfindable lol

I think you mean this maybe??
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157157/update-on-cyrodiil-performance/p1

and the player based reaction here
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157186/pvp-is-pretty-much-dead-paul-sages-post

It MIGHT be, if you notice that post is edited, . What was basically said is that PVP will never work properly, it would require a total rewrite of that segment of the game and will never be done. That is not a direct quote, but what I remember, it was a very short, blunt, to the point paragraph

Amica

[quote="What's a guy gotta do to get a populated server without lag???[/quote]

Buy Black Desert Online!!!! :-)

zZzleepyhead

Alucardo wrote: »

I feel your frustration, really. All I want is some good PVP.

hahahahaha-no can do.

Ezareth

milthalas wrote: »

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KenaPKK wrote: »

Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

Kena, man, there are so many bad yellows on TF and Had that we wish we could farm them ourselves.

That's exactly why I originally made my NB DC.

Samadhi

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

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OdinForge wrote: »

I'm *** losing my guild to games like Rocket League, come on Zenimax!!

Don't forget Fallout 4.

Hi, just got back from Fallout 4. Left ESO around the time the announcement was made.

At the time, ESO PvP was zergs, lag and broken CC.

Decided to check in on the forums while my launcher spends what looks to be the next 24 hours patching.

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Lava_Croft wrote: »

PvP these days is nothing but zergs, lag and broken CC.

... welcome home, I guess.

DaveMoeDee

davey1107 wrote: »

Based on interviews with the developers, they believe the lag is being caused by the calculations required to process so many vet players putting out so many complex AOE attacks - when ice comet hits, the computer has to calculate how every element nearby will be affected.

The lag isn't that bad in computer terms...things seem to be running 5% too slow, creating stutter. Therefore, a solution might be a nerf to the combat skill speeds. Even a half second cast time for most abilities might do it.

Of course, the best solution would be to accomplish this sort of thing without players noticing.

So long as the changes are Cyrodiil-only.

Jinxycat wrote: »

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bikerangelo wrote: »

I'm lagging more in dungeons too, not sure if it's related. My ping will spike and my frames will drop if anything remotely intense is going on.

I noticed this too the other day when I was leveling. I was in a pve zone and my frames were constantly dropped and my ping was spiking to 999+ lol.

I have experienced the same. Makes me wonder at times why I bother with an MMO.

PURPLE245

did they raise the pop on ic launch thinking people would be split up between the 2 because i have only had realy bad lag since ic was dying out then everyone is all in cyro instead of ic all in one place?

Lava_Croft

mchermie wrote: »

RIP
When leveling an alt is more fun than pvp..

This is the sad truth.

Jhunn

No campaign in PC EU with decent PvP. Even the lowest populated Ebony Blade had a huge +30-man train zerging everything down yesterday evening.

I've started preferring PvE. Sad state.

Tower_Of_Shame

Jhunn wrote: »

No campaign in PC EU with decent PvP. Even the lowest populated Ebony Blade had a huge +30-man train zerging everything down yesterday evening.

I've started preferring PvE. Sad state.

I'm doing the collectible achievements XD enough said I think

MountainHound

davey1107 wrote: »

Based on interviews with the developers, they believe the lag is being caused by the calculations required to process so many vet players putting out so many complex AOE attacks - when ice comet hits, the computer has to calculate how every element nearby will be affected.

The lag isn't that bad in computer terms...things seem to be running 5% too slow, creating stutter. Therefore, a solution might be a nerf to the combat skill speeds. Even a half second cast time for most abilities might do it.

Of course, the best solution would be to accomplish this sort of thing without players noticing.

Just remove meteor then.

Xiphyla

mchermie wrote: »

RIP
When leveling an alt is more fun than pvp..

Logged off the moment my ping shoot up to 999+.

Ishammael

I have actually been doing the pledges. Plus minus a couple of fights, crap is face-to-keyboard easy.

sadownik

Ishammael wrote: »

I have actually been doing the pledges. Plus minus a couple of fights, crap is face-to-keyboard easy.

Thats my problem with ESO pve - either so easy you fall asleep or artificially hard because of pumped up hp dmg of enemies - always boring.

kylewwefan

OP. Yes. Yes it is so bad, I dread going there. But there are lots of quests. In the PVP area. I go there for that. And farming mats that you can only get there. The telvar situation is soo bad. I'm lucky to retain 200 a go.