PvP is so bad right now...

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KenaPKK
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Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

No one thinks Axe has PvP enabled.

A significant EP guild told me tonight that it's losing members rapidly, and its GM may soon be among them. :(

What's a guy gotta do to get a populated server without lag???
Edited by KenaPKK on January 10, 2016 3:46AM
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  • Alucardo
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    I feel your frustration, really. All I want is some good PVP. I can't go to campaigns that aren't azuras because they are generally dominated by one particular faction, azuras is unplayable with its lag, and IC is usually dead or full of Nightblades.
    It's a shame because the combat is so damn good in this game, but there's just no where to do it.
    Blackwater blade isn't too bad at the moment, but there's no where for my vets to go.
  • Holycannoli
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    Go back in time to when things were handled client-side and people speedhacked.

    I want one myself. I want the days when PvP was large battles full of siege weapons with little lag, when capping keeps meant something and capping scrolls was a faction-wide achievement.

    Trueflame is a waste of a campaign. Nobody plays it except AD it seems.

    Axe is just as much a waste. Is it the gated IC that keeps people away? IMO that's how every campaign should be, along with no respawning inside the city, like DAOC's Darkness Falls. You die, you spawn outside. You want access? Your faction needs to control a majority of keeps. It worked brilliantly in DAOC.

    Azura is constantly locked.

    Haderus is so far fairly balanced and fun but the pop is growing and so too is the lag.
  • Scamandros
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    Go back in time to when things were handled client-side and people speedhacked.

    At least dreugh wax was cheap then :'(
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  • Manoekin
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    It's been real bad. Finding ways to have fun though.
  • davey1107
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    Based on interviews with the developers, they believe the lag is being caused by the calculations required to process so many vet players putting out so many complex AOE attacks - when ice comet hits, the computer has to calculate how every element nearby will be affected.

    The lag isn't that bad in computer terms...things seem to be running 5% too slow, creating stutter. Therefore, a solution might be a nerf to the combat skill speeds. Even a half second cast time for most abilities might do it.

    Of course, the best solution would be to accomplish this sort of thing without players noticing.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    This weekend it has been worse than most other times, even when there were not very many people around, ability delays and lag, I know it is just the first of the year, I really hope they have some big plans and not going to take all year to get them in game. I hope the next ESO live on 1/15 has some new news for us.

    I have a couple of friends that are more hardcore fans of this game than I am, they are even looking for a new game, when people like that start looking the game is starting to spiral down and needs some improvements quickly.
  • Didgerion
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

    Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

    No one thinks Axe has PvP enabled.

    A significant EP guild told me tonight that it's losing members rapidly, and its GM may soon be among them. :(

    What's a guy gotta do to get a populated server without lag???

    Yeah Cyrodiil is very bad now...exploiters are everywhere in form of ball groups, gap close spammers, proxi-detonators, ...and the worst part is that in most of cases all mentioned above are combined.
  • Kova
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    I thought Haderus was safe. It was so great for the longest time. The factions dueled and small grouped together in peace, exchanging AvA and blood....but that all changed when the Azura nation attacked.

    Tonight was probably the most frustrating night I've had in pvp in a long time. My ults weren't being used, my executes were being ignored, my frags just wouldn't let go, and don't even get me started on attempting ANY animation cancelling. You might as well just take the skill off your bar if you try.

    I said things in zone against my own faction that I just can't regret. I shouldn't have let myself get so irritated, but it's like finding a new world, untouched by man, and then watching some guy ride a nuke from space whipping his cowboy hat around as the bomb hits the planets surface.
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  • KenaPKK
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    Yeah Cyrodiil is very bad now...exploiters are everywhere in form of ball groups, gap close spammers, proxi-detonators, ...and the worst part is that in most of cases all mentioned above are combined.

    Not one of the things you mentioned is an exploit.
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  • bikerangelo
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    I'm lagging more in dungeons too, not sure if it's related. My ping will spike and my frames will drop if anything remotely intense is going on.
  • zyk
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    I would like to see ZOS set one live server as a test environment to rapidly test new gameplay ideas to encourage players to spread out. I don't see how PVP can be fixed at the rate ZOS implements changes. 4-5 iterations of PVP a year won't work.

    IMO, if only the server performance improves, the zergs will get larger without substantial changes to gameplay.

    Part of the solution needs to be competitive balance that encourage the best players to fight each other. Otherwise, less capable players will use numbers to even the odds.
    Edited by zyk on January 10, 2016 6:47AM
  • Holycannoli
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    I want them to test no AOE caps, or at least increased caps to like 10 or 12 (but no caps preferred). If it's laggier they can revert it.
  • Alcast
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    Let me tell you a story. I was pvping yesterday with my buddies 7 man grp.

    First I was pvping on Azura till 2pm and so *** many moron trains showed up and lag kicked in...

    then swapped to Trueflame till 8pm and like 3 AD trains(I dont even know how they got so many ppl yet as they were not even *** locked wtf) zerged everything down and lag kicked in..

    then swapped to Ebony Blade (2 bars on each faction) and there was 1 massive DC train 24 ppl vs randoms.....lag did not kick in but those idiots zerged down everything...tho they were nabs and died a few times lul.

    It is like *** coursing....I am constantly running from the *** lag.

    Worst ist, all those Zergs prolly think they are "small-scaling" because their brain is filled with straw.
    Edited by Alcast on January 10, 2016 9:23AM
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  • imredneckson
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Azura and Haderus are busy, but they're laggy as hell. Serious players can't play in that.

    Trueflame is a hoard of yellows.

    No one thinks Axe has PvP enabled.

    A significant EP guild told me tonight that it's losing members rapidly, and its GM may soon be among them. :(

    What's a guy gotta do to get a populated server without lag???

    Ikr Im sick of it! ZOS have your people play ESO so you can see what we see, experience what we experience, and to actually be able understand where your customers are coming from. To the EP guild that Kena's talking about please don't leave EP needs help right now. EP needs strong guilds to hold the faction together and lead it.
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  • Kova
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    To the EP guild that Kena's talking about please don't leave EP needs help right now. EP needs strong guilds to hold the faction together and lead it.

    I second this. EPs population of competent groups is taking a nosedive. It's bad enough there are only a handful of decent solo players in EP (not counting the great players that have created EP characters), having what little good AvA guilds we do have trickle out would make a very dull server.
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  • Brrrofski
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    You know, yesterday was the first time in a long time I actually enjoyed pvp. I play xbox eu, and lag is usually so bad I'm done within an hour. I go sewers or elsewhere.I played for like 8 hours straight yesterday because the lag was minimal.

    It's pretty sad that I enjoyed pvp once in 2 months.
    Edited by Brrrofski on January 10, 2016 10:37AM
  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    The AD purposely killed True Flame and as I understand from a friend, are purposely killing Axe. Then they are bored with having no PVP on their server, they are jumping into Haderus. Of course, as the only thing that this group of players know how to do is nightcap via pvdoor, they are getting their arses handed to them on a silver platter by the visiting EP from Azura's. It is popcorn worthy watching the TF's emp dying on Haderus. Maybe someday they will learn that if you want to PVP, you don't push the gates at 3 am every day.

    But why the Azura's EP are on Haderus instead of Azura's, especially if the lag is the same, I don't know. It seems that the EP is not loosing their guilds, the guilds are just not where they are expected to be.
  • Slaxis
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    Its time for Zos to get off there ass and lets us all know whats up. Sure they can keep new players buying the game with there fancy DLC but it only last a short while. @ZOS_GinaBruno , @Wrobel Please get on these forums and tell us whether or not you have some a solution to this lag and if its going to be addressed anytime soon...enough is enough its been this bad for a long time!
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  • Eirella
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    I'm lagging more in dungeons too, not sure if it's related. My ping will spike and my frames will drop if anything remotely intense is going on.

    I noticed this too the other day when I was leveling. I was in a pve zone and my frames were constantly dropped and my ping was spiking to 999+ lol.
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  • Rylana
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    The fight at Bleaks on Haderus between now and 20 minutes ago, was so laggy I could barely cast.

    40 reds 40 blues? Not really a blob thing either, it looked like a handful of smaller groups on each side. (was personally in a group of five)

    But the lag was ridiculous.
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  • WRX
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    Rylana wrote: »
    The fight at Bleaks on Haderus between now and 20 minutes ago, was so laggy I could barely cast.

    40 reds 40 blues? Not really a blob thing either, it looked like a handful of smaller groups on each side. (was personally in a group of five)

    But the lag was ridiculous.

    I reverted to playing a game that is in korean just so i dont have to play eso all the time.

    How much korean do I know? Well, I'm not even sure im spelling it right.
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  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    WRX wrote: »

    I reverted to playing a game that is in korean just so i dont have to play eso all the time.

    How much korean do I know? Well, I'm not even sure im spelling it right.


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  • sirston
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    WRX wrote: »

    I reverted to playing a game that is in korean just so i dont have to play eso all the time.

    How much korean do I know? Well, I'm not even sure im spelling it right.

    theres an english patch for it. and it comes out this year ;) and your buddys Havoc is playing it.
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  • Didgerion
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    KenaPKK wrote: »

    Not one of the things you mentioned is an exploit.

    Well technically you are right....non of them are exploiters now but they will be fixed next patch. So if you "sell them short" then you can consider them exploiters.
    Edited by Didgerion on January 11, 2016 11:11AM
  • Rust_in_Peace
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    KenaPKK wrote: »

    What's a guy gotta do to get a populated server without lag???

    Play a different game.

    I've given up hope for ESO until something like battlegrounds comes in.
  • Jura23
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    I want them to test no AOE caps, or at least increased caps to like 10 or 12 (but no caps preferred). If it's laggier they can revert it.

    IMO it wouldn't change a thing. It doesn't really matter if you have ppl balled up or spread over 50 meters. Game couldn't handle it either way.
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  • JaJaLuka
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    I can't help but imagine that woman as the ESO dev's talking to their IT guys at times...

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  • tinythinker
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    JaJaLuka wrote: »
    I can't help but imagine that woman as the ESO dev's talking to their IT guys at times...

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  • MishMash
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    I am not 100% sure that it has to do with with all the calculations. Example, a full raid was moving stealth near a keep the closer they got the Ping went higher and higher. So I ask this .... what does it all mean Basil?
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  • Pchela
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    MishMash wrote: »
    I am not 100% sure that it has to do with with all the calculations. Example, a full raid was moving stealth near a keep the closer they got the Ping went higher and higher. So I ask this .... what does it all mean Basil?

    For years I've tried to capture it, and I've come close, so very close, but each time its narrowly evaded my grasp! Not a corner of Cyrodiil is safe while Zergigan is at large. There's no evil scheme it wouldn't concoct. No depravity it wouldn't commit. Who knows what dastardly scheme that villian may be plotting even as we speak.
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