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Warrhammer

Forztr wrote: »

I've heard of the WARDEN + DragonKnight + DC spy scroll steal but today was the first time I actually saw it happen up close.

EP so pathetic that they need to do this to get a scroll back.

Oh dont worry your morning "down under" scroll crew will get it back soon cuz PVeing a keep is so skill

Forztr

And the lameness continues with the freshly crowned nightcaped EP emp using spambush to get through keep doors to take out defenders whilst his buddies seiged. He did both for the outside and inside walls at Glade. I susppect he had a DC spy help him through the doors.

By allowing Dragon leaps into keeps and ambush through doors ZOS are essentially contributing to creating a toxic PVP community.

Stuff needs fixing or they should add a skill line of troll abilities or special seige items that let everyone join the fun. Maybe a potion of teleportation a catapult of person throwing. Introduce Harpies as a playable race with the flying racial ability.

/end rant

vamp_emily

Forztr wrote: »

I've heard of the WARDEN + DragonKnight + DC spy scroll steal but today was the first time I actually saw it happen up close.

EP so pathetic that they need to do this to get a scroll back.

Seriously guys do we have to do this kind of cheating? I seen the same thing last night and it is a bunch of BS.

Its hard enough to be constantly fighting EP and AD at the same time, especially with the numbers that I have been seeing. Please play fair.

I reported the player last night, I hope everyone else did too.

mcurley

vamp_emily wrote: »

Forztr wrote: »

I've heard of the WARDEN + DragonKnight + DC spy scroll steal but today was the first time I actually saw it happen up close.

EP so pathetic that they need to do this to get a scroll back.

Seriously guys do we have to do this kind of cheating? I seen the same thing last night and it is a bunch of BS.

Its hard enough to be constantly fighting EP and AD at the same time, especially with the numbers that I have been seeing. Please play fair.

I reported the player last night, I hope everyone else did too.

I think he's been reported for doing this many times now... ZOS just doesn't care.

Kids will be kids... eventually they grow up and play by the rules (for the most part)

leem1988

Red and Blue tag team

Gederic

leem1988 wrote: »

Red and Blue tag team

Really? DC practically wiped the EP attack on Roe and made that dethrone last so much longer than it should of and constantly attacked Chal and Dragon most of the day while AD still had emp. But no, EP and DC are totally in bed with each other.. What exactly do you expect when a faction gets emp? The other two generally try to dethrone them, who would have thought.

Valknir

You're all whiners.

Play the game.

--Morgoroth gro Urûkhash, you friendly, neighborhood Orc.

Valknir

Here's the deal, EP and DC seem to be "in bed" with one another because sometimes they roll each other's faction because there's a bit of mutual respect there. I find DC players much harder to kill, and I'm exclusively EP.

I respect DC.

I don't respect whiny scrubadubdub yellows because they *** on the forums for "ganging up" on them. You know why? Because you're easy to kill. And when you're trash, people want to take you out.

Enjoy being on the bottom of the rankings every week.

leem1988

Valen_Byte

Valknir wrote: »

Here's the deal, EP and DC seem to be "in bed" with one another because sometimes they roll each other's faction because there's a bit of mutual respect there. I find DC players much harder to kill, and I'm exclusively EP.

I respect DC.

I don't respect whiny scrubadubdub yellows because they *** on the forums for "ganging up" on them. You know why? Because you're easy to kill. And when you're trash, people want to take you out.

Enjoy being on the bottom of the rankings every week.

Here's the real deal.

AD ignores EP most of the time. I dont think anyone in AD considers EP a threat.

Mjollo

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Here's the real deal.

AD ignores EP most of the time. I dont think anyone in AD considers EP a threat.

Here's the Realest of the Dealest tho. EP never considered AD a threat. We see free AP. Yesterday was so fun because all of AD stacked on Roe, EP pushed all of ADs homekeeps, took your last scroll, and fended off any AD that tried to reclaim Alessia. It was a great amount of fun and lots of AP was made in the process.

Valen_Byte

Defialed wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Here's the real deal.

AD ignores EP most of the time. I dont think anyone in AD considers EP a threat.

Here's the Realest of the Dealest tho. EP never considered AD a threat. We see free AP. Yesterday was so fun because all of AD stacked on Roe, EP pushed all of ADs homekeeps, took your last scroll, and fended off any AD that tried to reclaim Alessia. It was a great amount of fun and lots of AP was made in the process.

Well if you are in game now lol both DC and EP are hitting Roe with full force and cant get it....explain that lol...both factions been trying all night to dethrone and wont be able to do it until we all go to bed.



EDIT: Going to bed...you can have roe now ; )

Mjollo

Nah. My guild was relaxing tonight. We came on after to watch DC dethrone. AD has gotten emp twice over the last 2 nights and still hasn't been able to get out of 3rd place this week yet. Try explaining that lol.

Rylana

Defialed wrote: »

Nah. My guild was relaxing tonight. We came on after to watch DC dethrone. AD has gotten emp twice over the last 2 nights and still hasn't been able to get out of 3rd place this week yet. Try explaining that lol.

There are three types of emperors in AD

1. E-peen emps that have their whole vet guild get them emp on toon number 6, that then do nothing after being crowned besides defend their keeps for AP and level out. if they even do that. (this is the real problem type)

2. B or C list players, or PvEers, or actual noobs, that somehow get enough AP to be at the top, get crowned because feels, and then proceed to completely fail at the role. Not that I dislike newer players, but seriously, crowning a noob over a solid veteran of blackwater just because "they wanna be emp once?" durrrrrr

3. The type you never see anymore, hell you rarely see this type even in vet campaigns nowadays, the good player that actually wants to win the campaign, usually a type 1 that doesnt just farm ap with their guild. I miss emps like this, I was one back in EP, (five day reign, highest score EP ever had on BB) as much as youd hate to admit it, before your time though, before CP, before 1.6, back when 1905 health was normal and siege did 600-1500 a shot. Guards one shot, all that good stuff. The glory days when BB was good.

There are other types of "hopefuls" that would probably do a much better job than a 1 or 2, but politics of the campaigns pretty much shut that down. If it aint their guildie, gg, and watch the cycle burn.

People only see emp as an entitlement for guildies or AP farming, and that is the root of the problem, they dont see the benefit of 2k health for the whole faction or a tool to pry scrolls and hold counterattacks back. Nah, blackwater emp became a joke about a year ago. Ive been floating around in there time to time, been up there, hell was emp on DC at a time with no support from a guild, so I have seen it firsthand. (bucked the system, got emp with a couple friends overnight, the red and yellow guilds logged in, the blue guild did not defend for me, gg)

AD needs less politics and carebears running the show, then they would win. God knows they have the numbers. At least EP and DC have some semblance of organization. AD doesnt have any of that. its just "hurr durr lets see if i can get 50k ap on the leaderboards this week, aw shoot, now ill logout cause some dude i dunno is there instead"

AD want to fix the problem? Start crowning emps that are actually good at it (eg: have an emperor build, experience, fundamentals of fricken cyrodiil and how to use siege, blahblah), stop farming up gloryhogs that are crap and just looking for AP for proxdet once they level out, and shove the popularity contest. Then you might get something done.

leem1988

I have been pvping in bwb since level 10 for about 9 months now, I'm level 39 with 745k AP total.

*Looks at leaderboard, and sees a player with 500k AP

Mjollo

Rylana wrote: »

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Emp in any campaign became a joke a long time ago. It's only used ever used as a personal gain before anything else nowadays. I too miss the days when factions encouraged each other to push for their number ones regardless of popularity status. The value of an emp has gone down drastically and seen only for it's title and color rather than the idea of winning a campaign to benefit your whole faction for the rewards you gain during and after the campaign finishes.

vamp_emily

I wish one day I would be Empress.

vamp_emily

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can someone please tell me that stealing scrolls is OK? Once again I logged in this morning to find 4 people from my alliance taking a scroll to AD. This makes me mad, what is the reason of even playing fair if every time I report this type of game play nothing happens? I even logged into AD and confronted the losers for doing this. Their response was .. go ahead and report because the only thing ZOS will say is OK.

I almost took the scroll back, but I did not because I felt that was against the rules and I do not want to get reported or banned from the game. If Someone from @ZOS tells me this type of game play is ok. I will take every scroll from AD/EP and run them to my Alliance. ( ok maybe not but I won't feel guilty returning the stolen scroll )

Someone told me in zone chat there is a patch coming up to prevent this type of game play. Is there? I searched and did not find it.

Some of my alliance members thought it was OK to cheat, Really? Their argument was "DC night caps, so it is ok to cheat". Really? The way I look at is, EP/AD need to find a group to play at those times to prevent the night caps.

Well enough crying, sorry I just had to vent a little.

gw2only1b14_ESO

vamp_emily wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can someone please tell me that stealing scrolls is OK? Once again I logged in this morning to find 4 people from my alliance taking a scroll to AD. This makes me mad, what is the reason of even playing fair if every time I report this type of game play nothing happens? I even logged into AD and confronted the losers for doing this. Their response was .. go ahead and report because the only thing ZOS will say is OK.

I almost took the scroll back, but I did not because I felt that was against the rules and I do not want to get reported or banned from the game. If Someone from @ZOS tells me this type of game play is ok. I will take every scroll from AD/EP and run them to my Alliance. ( ok maybe not but I won't feel guilty returning the stolen scroll )

Someone told me in zone chat there is a patch coming up to prevent this type of game play. Is there? I searched and did not find it.

Some of my alliance members thought it was OK to cheat, Really? Their argument was "DC night caps, so it is ok to cheat". Really? The way I look at is, EP/AD need to find a group to play at those times to prevent the night caps.

Well enough crying, sorry I just had to vent a little.

To get Gina's involvment Id ask this in General section Why do you ask? because she the most responsive person on the boards and it will get to there attention....Sad but thats what ive seen Now on this Board you could try @brianwheeler and see if theres a response

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can someone please tell me that stealing scrolls is OK? Once again I logged in this morning to find 4 people from my alliance taking a scroll to AD. This makes me mad, what is the reason of even playing fair if every time I report this type of game play nothing happens? I even logged into AD and confronted the losers for doing this. Their response was .. go ahead and report because the only thing ZOS will say is OK.

I almost took the scroll back, but I did not because I felt that was against the rules and I do not want to get reported or banned from the game. If Someone from @ZOS tells me this type of game play is ok. I will take every scroll from AD/EP and run them to my Alliance. ( ok maybe not but I won't feel guilty returning the stolen scroll )

Someone told me in zone chat there is a patch coming up to prevent this type of game play. Is there? I searched and did not find it.

Some of my alliance members thought it was OK to cheat, Really? Their argument was "DC night caps, so it is ok to cheat". Really? The way I look at is, EP/AD need to find a group to play at those times to prevent the night caps.

Well enough crying, sorry I just had to vent a little.

It really is discouraging isn't it? When you see people in your own alliance cheating (that's exactly what it is, call it by whatever name you cheaters like), you report them over and over and ZOS does nothing. I hear that this is true, they don't consider it an actual cheat. Its disheartening to those of us who enjoy actual gameplay.

But, we who do not believe in such things have to carry on in a respectable manner. Why? Because we know better. What more is there than my honor and the name I carry? I don't want people looking at AD like we are a bunch of scrubby exploiters, nor do I put all the blame on either alliance when they have a few 'bad apples". We have to be the respectable ones, because we give a crap about our alliances honor.

All I'm really saying, is I understand. It sucks that there isn't a damn thing we, the honorable ones, can do about it. I feel it doesn't do any good at all to report these jerks, but I continue to, otherwise I wouldn't feel right with myself.

Also, to the DC night capers: night capping is slimy and you should be ashamed of yourselves. (And no, I'm not talking about those guys who play in different time zones, you all know exactly what I'm talking about.)

Valen_Byte

Defialed wrote: »

Nah. My guild was relaxing tonight. We came on after to watch DC dethrone. AD has gotten emp twice over the last 2 nights and still hasn't been able to get out of 3rd place this week yet. Try explaining that lol.

Just an update for you. We won last week. We are going to win this week. I suppose your guild has been relaxing a lot lately. ; )

Mjollo

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Defialed wrote: »

Nah. My guild was relaxing tonight. We came on after to watch DC dethrone. AD has gotten emp twice over the last 2 nights and still hasn't been able to get out of 3rd place this week yet. Try explaining that lol.

Just an update for you. We won last week. We are going to win this week. I suppose your guild has been relaxing a lot lately. ; )

Nope. we don't play in blackwater that much anymore and when we do, its individually and very casually as well. We have a lot off-games as well most of us are already back in class.

gw2only1b14_ESO

TBH lately AD side there has been more trolls in the non vet looks like time for players to actually fill up EPs ranks there the thinnest ive seen since launch

Valknir

Good ol' AD, claiming they "never zerg" while running around in 40+ person groups every night. Such a shame BwB isn't as balanced as it once was.

vamp_emily

Time to wake up EP, we can't fight AD alone. I looked at the map last night and said, "Yay, EP took a LM, they are waking up". A few minutes later, it was yellow again.

Mjollo

vamp_emily wrote: »

Time to wake up EP, we can't fight AD alone. I looked at the map last night and said, "Yay, EP took a LM, they are waking up". A few minutes later, it was yellow again.

I thought you didn't like EP.

Cody

Warrhammer wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Defialed wrote: »

You also assume too much yet again lol. I don't have 501 CP, I don't hate you, and i'm also running a "test" build in BwB atm. I made a DK tank. Has no damage: I'm possible to kill in a 1v1. I truly couldn't care less if you got Emp. I am EP. You're AD. it's my objective to prevent you from obtaining it. That's the name of the game. Sorry, Bae.

Again, there you go thinking its all about you. if I am completely honest, I dont consider you much of a threat personally. Theres a few guys who roll around redside that ive ran with in the past, good solid players. If they werent carrying EP, EP would collapse, honestly.

But the backroom deals with DC? I mean I just watched someone who clearly is from your guild or runs with you dock a scroll in Warden on a DC toon. Seems legit. I suppose now you wont defend BRK on the blue emp push this morning or something.

We shall see. Or rather ill see when i get back. Im heading out. This forum PvP has been.... refreshing. At least here its not always 20 on 1.

Rylana wrote: »

Defialed wrote: »

You also assume too much yet again lol. I don't have 501 CP, I don't hate you, and i'm also running a "test" build in BwB atm. I made a DK tank. Has no damage: I'm possible to kill in a 1v1. I truly couldn't care less if you got Emp. I am EP. You're AD. it's my objective to prevent you from obtaining it. That's the name of the game. Sorry, Bae.

Again, there you go thinking its all about you. if I am completely honest, I dont consider you much of a threat personally. Theres a few guys who roll around redside that ive ran with in the past, good solid players. If they werent carrying EP, EP would collapse, honestly.

But the backroom deals with DC? I mean I just watched someone who clearly is from your guild or runs with you dock a scroll in Warden on a DC toon. Seems legit. I suppose now you wont defend BRK on the blue emp push this morning or something.

We shall see. Or rather ill see when i get back. Im heading out. This forum PvP has been.... refreshing. At least here its not always 20 on 1.

you and defialed need to kiss and make up:) and yes there is likely foul trade going on, but honestly I have more fun in blackwater blade than I do vet severs. At least in Blackwater blade I dont have to deal with 27K damage shields from non-emp players. its not in that bad of a state right now.

yeah BWB is where the high level Champ vet toons go cause they sux in Vet PVP, jes saying

I dont care what people from Azura's star or vet PvP in general think of me. In fact, tell everyone in Azura's star that Cody says suck it:D

though as a side note, I will be coming in with my mana DK at some point, so maybe I will type it in all caps in zone chat once I arrive. In fact I will:) keep an eye on zone chat everyone

Valen_Byte

@Cody

Who are you in BwB...dont think Ive seen the name cody on a character.

Cody

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Cody

Who are you in BwB...dont think Ive seen the name cody on a character.

she will be coming in very soon, her name is A random Saiyan

Valen_Byte

Cody wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

@Cody

Who are you in BwB...dont think Ive seen the name cody on a character.

she will be coming in very soon, her name is A random Saiyan

Cool...I'll keep an eye out in my kill feed ; )