Anyone use a nagga mouse?

Gothlander

Razor nagga. If so, what are some op macros you use?

Digital_Bandit

Naga mouse user (MMO edition) since 07.

Never used the macro feature. Quite frankly using those in this game would be like using an Aimbot in your favorite FPS. Zero skill involved.

Gothlander

Lol. But it gives you an advantage. I made a macro that with one press of the button, switches my action bar, hits the rapid maneuver ability and puts me in auto run. It's very useful for getting around town or Cyrodil.

Gothlander

Forgot to add that this macro takes like one second to do it all. I just want to know if any others have interesting macros they use? Like maybe add in a light attack on the 1-5 abilities?

OmniDevil

How strong is your flame shield?

Gothlander

OmniDevil wrote: »

How strong is your flame shield?

I am fairly new so I don't know what that is. I only have a Templar right now at lvl 45 and a Sorc at lvl 11.

OmniDevil

Gothlander wrote: »

I am fairly new so I don't know what that is. I only have a Templar right now at lvl 45 and a Sorc at lvl 11.

It was a joke. More or less being sarcastic. I don't care for macros, but I have no problem with those that use them, however. The "Flame Shield" comment is referring to how long will your metaphorical shields last against the potential fire and acid spewed your way for mentioning anything about macros.

Gothlander

OmniDevil wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

I am fairly new so I don't know what that is. I only have a Templar right now at lvl 45 and a Sorc at lvl 11.

It was a joke. More or less being sarcastic. I don't care for macros, but I have no problem with those that use them, however. The "Flame Shield" comment is referring to how long will your metaphorical shields last against the potential fire and acid spewed your way for mentioning anything about macros.

Ah, I didn't know macros were frowned upon. Don't most mmo players us macros though for most/all other mmo's?

Ezareth

Gothlander wrote: »

OmniDevil wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

I am fairly new so I don't know what that is. I only have a Templar right now at lvl 45 and a Sorc at lvl 11.

It was a joke. More or less being sarcastic. I don't care for macros, but I have no problem with those that use them, however. The "Flame Shield" comment is referring to how long will your metaphorical shields last against the potential fire and acid spewed your way for mentioning anything about macros.

Ah, I didn't know macros were frowned upon. Don't most mmo players us macros though for most/all other mmo's?

I keep asking around and have yet to see a skilled player admit to using macros in actual combat. Some people have developed various macros to do things like you described with the weapon swap cast etc.

In Combat relying on a macro would get you killed.

I have a Razer Naga and Razer hex and dont use any macros on either mouse although I have bound some abilities to various keys and buttons.

OmniDevil

Gothlander wrote: »

Ah, I didn't know macros were frowned upon. Don't most mmo players us macros though for most/all other mmo's?

To an extent.

One thing to remember is that ESO is on both PC and Console, while there may be a large enough audience who's first MMO experience may have been ESO on console, so not everyone may be familiar with them.

Macros are (for obvious reasons) more popular with PC MMORPGS. I used them a lot in raids in WoW, but loathed how boring, easy and monotonous they made the PvE side of things.

Now, I may be mistaken, but I recall seeing threads of people complaining about macro users in ESO. Honestly, I don't mind it. I just feel they're not really needed, considering how quickly things can be done, especially with Animation Cancelling.

Gothlander

Well, I am still messing around some with macros. I currently only use one which is only to help me get around faster. I probably will use another so that my abilities like the bow one Scorched Earth happens with just a click of a button instead of pressing a button and then pressing mouse to launch it.

I will be testing out other macros like throwing in some light attacks combined with other abilities would be good or not.

TheBull

All noobs use macros....

ESO isn't that type of game man.

Only noobs think they got killed by macros....

Gothlander

TheBull wrote: »

All noobs use macros....

ESO isn't that type of game man.

Only noobs think they got killed by macros....

Macros makes things easier. Instead of pressing a button to swap my skills, another button to hit Rapid Maneuver and another button to auto run, I hit just one button for all that.

DeanTheCat

Gothlander wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

All noobs use macros....

ESO isn't that type of game man.

Only noobs think they got killed by macros....

Macros makes things easier. Instead of pressing a button to swap my skills, another button to hit Rapid Maneuver and another button to auto run, I hit just one button for all that.

@Gothlander

The problem with a macro is that it locks you into a fixed automated sequence of animations. This results in a slower response time from the macro user as well as conditioning the user to rely on the macro as a crutch.

In an actual combat situation, you need to be able to respond to the changing battlefield situation constantly, and the less time you get "stunned" by your fixed sequences, the better. In addition, using a macro makes you highly predictable, which any veteran player can instantly spot and exploit your fixed attack patterns.

At the highest levels of play between two evenly matched opponents, all it takes is a single mistake or delayed action to cost you the fight. Your macro usage in that situation is tantamount to committing suicide due to your slow reaction time and the fact that you are locked into a combo even though your opponent is no longer there.

In summary, macros do indeed make things easier, but the more you rely on them, the more your personal skill as a player suffers and the more fights you'll lose thanks to it. I personally use a Naga myself, but I haven't bound any of the keys to a macro. Every single attack I execute is a button I press, thereby keeping my response times lightning fast and constantly mobile.

Baconlad

Wow...all of you openly admitting to using macros...that is a BANNABLE offense from everything I have ever heard about them. Will be back to confirm.

DeanTheCat

Baconlad wrote: »

Wow...all of you openly admitting to using macros...that is a BANNABLE offense from everything I have ever heard about them. Will be back to confirm.

@Baconlad

As far as I can see from this thread, the OP is the only one who saying that he is using macros. The rest of us is trying to explain to him why a macro is useless and how it hampers his playing ability rather than enhancing it. Also, is using a gaming mouse a bannable offense now?

Baconlad

Well then...i see that it was just the op...ok so OP macros are bad mkay? Using them for non combat is up to you, don't think anyone will know/ care, but combat macroing is bad. Ah and I use naga hex, I found the 12 button naga to be too many buttons to keep track of, having to search for the right button to hit, but the hex is fantastic in this game. Use 1-5 as my basic skills, mouse wheel click as ultimate, and 6 key for teamspeak talk toggle.

PBpsy

Razer Deathadder. I can't stand more than 2 thumb buttons. First t button is my spam skill (Funnel,CS)
2.Second is synergy . I weave with my thumb and index finger. No macro.

timidobserver

Slot Wrecking Blow to skill slot 1.

Macro = 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

MrDerrikk

Logitech G602 because I like the blue glow of Logitech stuff. It has macro support but I've often found they're more trouble than they're worth, so I've put the 6 buttons on 5-skills and weapon swap.

Trihugger

I use a RAT MMO 7 mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-M-M-O-7-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B006LVZEN0

I can actually use all the buttons vs the lol joke that the naga is. As far as macros go I wouldn't bother macro'ing anything combat related for the various reasons people posted above unless you're more-so into PvE. It's suicide in PvP (and PvP is a slideshow zergfest joke anyway).

I got used to the combat in ESO without macros so I don't use them, but....

Stuff to consider macroing would be animation canceling sequences for things you know you're going to use. IE Force Shock (and morphs) + Weave make an ideal combination macro as there's not a single situation you'd actually want to use the skill without the weave. If you want to just use the medium attack you still have the option to use the left mouse click.

Jitterbug

I have a 12-buttons on the side mouse and I'm really glad I do. I basically only use the keyboard for WASD and potions (Q).
I've never really seen the use for macros though, don't know what they would help me do seeing as the game only let's you slot 12 skills and the global cooldown is so long.

Turelus

Baconlad wrote: »

Wow...all of you openly admitting to using macros...that is a BANNABLE offense from everything I have ever heard about them. Will be back to confirm.

Marco's from gaming keyboards/mice hasn't ever been deemed a banable offence. Using code injection etc. is.

Generally most MMO games don't ban gaming macros because they still require player input to use and regulating this would be a nightmare. Using fully automated script programs or things which manipulate the client/data streams are considered botting/cheating though.

Gothlander

Trihugger wrote: »

I use a RAT MMO 7 mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-M-M-O-7-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B006LVZEN0

I can actually use all the buttons vs the lol joke that the naga is. As far as macros go I wouldn't bother macro'ing anything combat related for the various reasons people posted above unless you're more-so into PvE. It's suicide in PvP (and PvP is a slideshow zergfest joke anyway).

I got used to the combat in ESO without macros so I don't use them, but....

Stuff to consider macroing would be animation canceling sequences for things you know you're going to use. IE Force Shock (and morphs) + Weave make an ideal combination macro as there's not a single situation you'd actually want to use the skill without the weave. If you want to just use the medium attack you still have the option to use the left mouse click.

What is weave? Are you trying to say macro in a light attack after those abilities?

Aedaryl

Gothlander wrote: »

Trihugger wrote: »

I use a RAT MMO 7 mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-M-M-O-7-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B006LVZEN0

I can actually use all the buttons vs the lol joke that the naga is. As far as macros go I wouldn't bother macro'ing anything combat related for the various reasons people posted above unless you're more-so into PvE. It's suicide in PvP (and PvP is a slideshow zergfest joke anyway).

I got used to the combat in ESO without macros so I don't use them, but....

Stuff to consider macroing would be animation canceling sequences for things you know you're going to use. IE Force Shock (and morphs) + Weave make an ideal combination macro as there's not a single situation you'd actually want to use the skill without the weave. If you want to just use the medium attack you still have the option to use the left mouse click.

What is weave? Are you trying to say macro in a light attack after those abilities?

Yeah, it's that weave is for exemple do crushing shock + little heavy Attack, it's do a light or heavy Attack between skills

I've a Raze Naga, and the only macro I use is when I go in PvE for a dunjon or a Raid (happen twice per year, because undauted passive...) and the macro is for weave....

*SHAME ON ME*

MissBizz

I use that mouse, no macros used in game for me I just like not having to find my walking keys after attacks.

Xvorg

Gothlander wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

All noobs use macros....

ESO isn't that type of game man.

Only noobs think they got killed by macros....

Macros makes things easier. Instead of pressing a button to swap my skills, another button to hit Rapid Maneuver and another button to auto run, I hit just one button for all that.

Hmmm

How does your macro works when you are out of stam?

Gothlander

Xvorg wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

All noobs use macros....

ESO isn't that type of game man.

Only noobs think they got killed by macros....

Macros makes things easier. Instead of pressing a button to swap my skills, another button to hit Rapid Maneuver and another button to auto run, I hit just one button for all that.

Hmmm

How does your macro works when you are out of stam?

It swaps skills and puts me in auto run. This macro is just to get around not for situational pvp. The macro is not on my action bar though, I can still use rapid maneuver without using the macro. I do use a macro for aoe spells like the one you get with bow.

I have it so I press the button once and it launches the ability instead of pressing the button and then targeting the ground and pressing left mouse wheel. I use the crosshairs for targeting.

SmalltalkJava

I use a naga. A combo I use is. Attack button down .25 sec delay. att button up. then .15 delay then crystal blast.

PrinceBoru

When i was playing on my computer, I was using a Naga.
No macros but the buttons 1-12 were very useful.
It's my full-time mouse and i use the buttons outside of gaming all the time.