Haxus PVP, hate us or love us, you just got decked.

_Chaos

Alomar wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

someone who can't seem to admit they run up to 30 people with 6 following their 24 man and still call it a 24 man, that's just simple math.

I see, in this video alone, at least 28 EP within the same area. (& confirmed by Frozn's post)

Haxus runs 28 deep, confirmed.

Spin doctoring really is fun isn't it you filthy casual!

Is English your 2nd language or 3rd? You seem to have missed the earlier statement "this is mostly us fighting with anywhere from 16-20 Haxus and 4-8 Vok fighting against 40-100 DC". Oh my there's other EP in the "main campaign" fighting over both of our scrolls against huge adversarial odds?!?! You seem to have some salt there mate just because you run with a guild that averages 2-3x the numbers and still dies to us, perhaps a change in diet?

I'm just comparing apples to apples mate, you seem to want to talk up Haxus as if there's never anyone else around, yet run yer mouth saying VE runs w/30. Y teh dubble standert? scared your epeen might shrink?

Jules

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Nice video, but...

"We don't run with more than 12"

You should thank your lucky stars our groups are very very very rarely this size. As Varen indicated, probably 3 times total in the history of the guild.

Let's not get crazy here Jules. Haxus groups being small is more of a recent thing, first while after it formed the groups were strong pretty much every day.

Haxus runs small now and does great with it, no need to pretend it was always this way.

I run with my guild every day. Most days, for the duration of prime time. I don't need you to tell me how many players we run with. I have screenshots and specifically remember the first time we hit 24 members and it was weeks after the guild was created. It has certainly not been more than 3 times.

I've fought Haxus 20+ at BRK many times, and elsewhere on the map. Your decline in numbers is something your guys chatted with me about it often, as we went from going head to head with similar raids to regularly outnumbering you by 8 people or so in most engagements. We all noticed the decline in numbes, your own teammates noticed. it, i didnt think it was particularly controversial.

Decline in numbers, sure. On high nights we'll chill at 16-18 people. On low, 8-12. But to say we ever consistently ran equal numbers to VE is simply untrue.

frozywozy

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

someone who can't seem to admit they run up to 30 people with 6 following their 24 man and still call it a 24 man, that's just simple math.

I see, in this video alone, at least 28 EP within the same area. (& confirmed by Frozn's post)

Haxus runs 28 deep, confirmed.

Spin doctoring really is fun isn't it you filthy casual!

Tbh, Haxus would have had probably the same performances with or without my assistance. Most of people with who I roll with in Vokundein are casuals or pve-oriented (no offense to them). Still have plenty of fun with them once a week when they show up.

Alomar

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

someone who can't seem to admit they run up to 30 people with 6 following their 24 man and still call it a 24 man, that's just simple math.

I see, in this video alone, at least 28 EP within the same area. (& confirmed by Frozn's post)

Haxus runs 28 deep, confirmed.

Spin doctoring really is fun isn't it you filthy casual!

Is English your 2nd language or 3rd? You seem to have missed the earlier statement "this is mostly us fighting with anywhere from 16-20 Haxus and 4-8 Vok fighting against 40-100 DC". Oh my there's other EP in the "main campaign" fighting over both of our scrolls against huge adversarial odds?!?! You seem to have some salt there mate just because you run with a guild that averages 2-3x the numbers and still dies to us, perhaps a change in diet?

I'm just comparing apples to apples mate, you seem to want to talk up Haxus as if there's never anyone else around, yet run yer mouth saying VE runs w/30. Y teh dubble standert? scared your epeen might shrink?

There's a big difference between 28 guildies 4-5 times a week and 20 guildies with 8 others on one night in a couple of fights every two months. This concept seems to elude you, you currently run in the largest hardcore pvp guild left in this game NA. Any that run larger are zerg guilds who run multiple raids and lack the individual talent to play in smaller groups.

Yet, VE actively deny over and over that they are that large when x members, no not Jules, have confirmed to us it is a regular occurrence. We can count the names in death logs mate. So you're a large guild that have that many people on, alright that's fine, but you can't expect anyone to respect you when you lie about it and spout an idea like your the best guild when you win due to outnumbering other contenders by double or more. VE's prime has come in the wake of the weakest competition this game has seen, and it only continues to get worse as time goes on. The sooner you deflate your ego you'll come back down to reality.

Jules

Yeah Daniel, I'm an adult too. Just an honest one. People can skirt around the fact all they want. Truth is, you and your 60 closest friends you run with are bad for the game. And no amount of dislike for me will ever change that.

_Chaos

Alomar wrote: »

The sooner you deflate your ego you'll come back down to reality.

Did Alomar really just say that? LOL

As for the back and forth banter, I'll leave that to my leads as I tend to get into trouble when I tell people the truth. (Steve puts things a lot nicer than I do)

CN_Daniel

Jules wrote: »

Yeah Daniel, I'm an adult too. Just an honest one. People can skirt around the fact all they want. Truth is, you and your 60 closest friends you run with are bad for the game. And no amount of dislike for me will ever change that.

Trust me on this point. If I ran groups of even 40+ there would be no competition on Azura. That's just the truth. I don't want to go all slide show fighting people. There isn't a Nexus + Havok we have to fight anymore, there's no reason to do it. My other group is better off in another place, which 99% of the time is where they are.

Satiar

Jules wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Nice video, but...

"We don't run with more than 12"

You should thank your lucky stars our groups are very very very rarely this size. As Varen indicated, probably 3 times total in the history of the guild.

Let's not get crazy here Jules. Haxus groups being small is more of a recent thing, first while after it formed the groups were strong pretty much every day.

Haxus runs small now and does great with it, no need to pretend it was always this way.

I run with my guild every day. Most days, for the duration of prime time. I don't need you to tell me how many players we run with. I have screenshots and specifically remember the first time we hit 24 members and it was weeks after the guild was created. It has certainly not been more than 3 times.

I've fought Haxus 20+ at BRK many times, and elsewhere on the map. Your decline in numbers is something your guys chatted with me about it often, as we went from going head to head with similar raids to regularly outnumbering you by 8 people or so in most engagements. We all noticed the decline in numbes, your own teammates noticed. it, i didnt think it was particularly controversial.

Decline in numbers, sure. On high nights we'll chill at 16-18 people. On low, 8-12. But to say we ever consistently ran equal numbers to VE is simply untrue.

If id known it was such a touchy subject I'd have let it be. I have, what, 4 posts in this thread and almost all of them have a plug about how you guys did good fights or are among the best in the game--but I mention a decline in numbers and Alomar decides that's worth coming in and trashing me and my guild.

I respect what you guys can do and say so. Apparently that sentiment is not returned in the slightest, makes me wonder why I even bother

Zheg

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

At least with Alomar you get truth.

I dunno, he seems to think I run 30...

So does Jules who has personally witnessed it.

edit:

Is English your 2nd language or 3rd? You seem to have missed the earlier statement "this is mostly us fighting with anywhere from 16-20 Haxus and 4-8 Vok fighting against 40-100 DC". Oh my there's other EP in the "main campaign" fighting over both of our scrolls against huge adversarial odds?!?! You seem to have some salt there mate just because you run with a guild that averages 2-3x the numbers and still dies to us, perhaps a change in diet?

Alomar wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

someone who can't seem to admit they run up to 30 people with 6 following their 24 man and still call it a 24 man, that's just simple math.

I see, in this video alone, at least 28 EP within the same area. (& confirmed by Frozn's post)

Haxus runs 28 deep, confirmed.

Spin doctoring really is fun isn't it you filthy casual!

Is English your 2nd language or 3rd? You seem to have missed the earlier statement "this is mostly us fighting with anywhere from 16-20 Haxus and 4-8 Vok fighting against 40-100 DC". Oh my there's other EP in the "main campaign" fighting over both of our scrolls against huge adversarial odds?!?! You seem to have some salt there mate just because you run with a guild that averages 2-3x the numbers and still dies to us, perhaps a change in diet?

I'm just comparing apples to apples mate, you seem to want to talk up Haxus as if there's never anyone else around, yet run yer mouth saying VE runs w/30. Y teh dubble standert? scared your epeen might shrink?

There's a big difference between 28 guildies 4-5 times a week and 20 guildies with 8 others on one night in a couple of fights every two months. This concept seems to elude you, you currently run in the largest hardcore pvp guild left in this game NA. Any that run larger are zerg guilds who run multiple raids and lack the individual talent to play in smaller groups.

Yet, VE actively deny over and over that they are that large when x members, no not Jules, have confirmed to us it is a regular occurrence. We can count the names in death logs mate. So you're a large guild that have that many people on, alright that's fine, but you can't expect anyone to respect you when you lie about it and spout an idea like your the best guild when you win due to outnumbering other contenders by double or more. VE's prime has come in the wake of the weakest competition this game has seen, and it only continues to get worse as time goes on. The sooner you deflate your ego you'll come back down to reality.

Given how you act on the forums (never had to talk to you in game), personally I'm perfectly content not having your respect. Group stops at 24, people over that go in queue and most will go sit at an important emp keep and make a callout if siege goes up. I'll try to pay attention during raid, but if I had to guess I'd say we are at 24 on avg for about an hour, maybe 2 if the fights are good. Most of the rest of the 3+hours we pvp for our guild chat gets a constant "VE for pvp" every so often to try and get more people in group. How that equates to us running an extra 6 is an answer that I'm sure would be interesting to hear.

Not sure why you feel the need to frequently try and make threads about a havoc/haxus vs VE epeen thing, or at the least try and escalate them. It's weird.

Also, can confirm, given how often azuras makes me crash, 24 is frequently 23 or less during actual fights. Plus, Kirsi never dies and Winnie was afk back at the last resource waiting for the 10k AP tick so keep working on that whole counting thing.

Ghostbane

Zheg wrote: »

Winnie was afk back at the last resource waiting for the 10k AP tick so keep working on that whole counting thing.

She still doing that crap? Taught her everything.

frozywozy

Zheg wrote: »

Winnie was afk back at the last resource waiting for the 10k AP tick so keep working on that whole counting thing.

Oh Winnie..

Jules

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Nice video, but...

"We don't run with more than 12"

You should thank your lucky stars our groups are very very very rarely this size. As Varen indicated, probably 3 times total in the history of the guild.

Let's not get crazy here Jules. Haxus groups being small is more of a recent thing, first while after it formed the groups were strong pretty much every day.

Haxus runs small now and does great with it, no need to pretend it was always this way.

I run with my guild every day. Most days, for the duration of prime time. I don't need you to tell me how many players we run with. I have screenshots and specifically remember the first time we hit 24 members and it was weeks after the guild was created. It has certainly not been more than 3 times.

I've fought Haxus 20+ at BRK many times, and elsewhere on the map. Your decline in numbers is something your guys chatted with me about it often, as we went from going head to head with similar raids to regularly outnumbering you by 8 people or so in most engagements. We all noticed the decline in numbes, your own teammates noticed. it, i didnt think it was particularly controversial.

Decline in numbers, sure. On high nights we'll chill at 16-18 people. On low, 8-12. But to say we ever consistently ran equal numbers to VE is simply untrue.

If id known it was such a touchy subject I'd have let it be. I have, what, 4 posts in this thread and almost all of them have a plug about how you guys did good fights or are among the best in the game--but I mention a decline in numbers and Alomar decides that's worth coming in and trashing me and my guild.

Appreciate the kind words and didn't want it to get heated. I just know for a fact the group sizes we run and wanted to clear that up. We seem to consistently get into this head to head sitch. I'll chalk it up to being on opposing factions and belonging to two fiercely competitive guilds.

All BS aside, the truth is we run 8-12 on slow nights and 16-18 on good nights. If you wanted to have a magic number of average haxus groups you're probably looking at 12-14. I am not saying this because it's an ego thing or because we cap at some number for flex rights. I am saying this because this is the truth. We have hit 24 very very few times during the history of this guild, even in the beginning when we were 18-20 strong every night. We still didn't hit that 24 mark. You can ask people, they will confirm this. It is something we actually make note of in ts because it is literally that rare. Again, not for flexing reasons but merely stating facts.

That being said, it was not my intention to start fights. Atleast not with you, Steve. You are a person I respect and consider a friend.

Zheg

Ghostbane wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Winnie was afk back at the last resource waiting for the 10k AP tick so keep working on that whole counting thing.

She still doing that crap? Taught her everything.

To be fair, I try and join when I think I can get away with it. She's just better at it than me.

The key is to have someone distract bulb with ERP so he isn't paying attention to the map.

Abram

Dem healz tho....

NIce Vid Haxus, hate and love fighting you guys. Scariest part is watching your resources in those fights, magicka never dips low and group health bars recover so fast.

As for all the drama, get over it guys, if there weren't good players on all factions the game would be boring. There are nights when you get really tired of running over scrubblings and want a good fight.

Shout out to VE for doing some work on the map, probably do with 24 what others seem to need 70 for.
Haxus - great guild with some really strong individual players
NPK? CN? - At least your tyring...

as for me, I will keep desperately trying to 2 -3 man and play with my flip-book frames.

#freeVilefromfallout4
#BringSHjTback

Zhoyzu

How is it you fools always have these discussions devolve into these rage threads about group sides and who was better than who.

Have none of you learned anything from what happened from the events that caused the decline in thornblade?

All of this crap should have died with thornblade, let it go and move on. The truth remains, that none of us would be pvping without the other. I hate you because you're blue green and yellow, but i love that you're blue green and yellow because without you this would just be horse riding simulator.

Bigpapa1278

I just love that the folks leaving the Derogatory statements against our guild are people nobody has ever heard of. Ill just sit back, relax, and watch the chaos ensue.

frozywozy

Zhoyzu wrote: »

How is it you fools always have these discussions devolve into these rage threads about group sides and who was better than who.

Have none of you learned anything from what happened from the events that caused the decline in thornblade?

All of this crap should have died with thornblade, let it go and move on. The truth remains, that none of us would be pvping without the other. I hate you because you're blue green and yellow, but i love that you're blue green and yellow because without you this would just be horse riding simulator.

You heard the man, let it go already!

Manoekin

NPK Daniel wrote: »

I've got a lot of respect of (Ha)Nexus, not specifically you Jules, but they have always been good people. I enjoy smacking you guys around a lot. Other than GoS, Ha-Nexus & whomever Crown is running with I pretty much know we'll win if similar numbers.

You guys are the best @ Offensive takes and really the only team that ever beats us with less numbers (especially when we're caught off guard). Crown is the best in open field and from what I'm seeing from GoS their strength seems to be defense.


Edit:

I love whipping you guys and then whole different teams of DC run to your bodies to bag. We all DIE laughing in Ts every single time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQ-nVrZ1Jk

Though to be fair there were quite a bit of AD pugs that helped whittle you down until the end there. Also a funny intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTBoIp50s3c

I can break out the fight between fare and roe not too long ago where we wiped you at the NPC fort while you had like 6 siege pointed at your group's position.

manny254

frozywozy wrote: »

Zhoyzu wrote: »

How is it you fools always have these discussions devolve into these rage threads about group sides and who was better than who.

Have none of you learned anything from what happened from the events that caused the decline in thornblade?

All of this crap should have died with thornblade, let it go and move on. The truth remains, that none of us would be pvping without the other. I hate you because you're blue green and yellow, but i love that you're blue green and yellow because without you this would just be horse riding simulator.

You heard the man, let it go already!

Ghost-Shot

NPK Daniel wrote: »

You should take note of how Grom, Stamplar, mouse etc behave, let them serve as your role-models, they seem to be adults.

@Jules Did Daniel just tell you be as mature as Dig? I literally cant even right now.

frozywozy

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

You should take note of how Grom, Stamplar, mouse etc behave, let them serve as your role-models, they seem to be adults.

@Jules Did Daniel just tell you be as mature as Dig? I literally cant even right now.

Hey now, Dig is Varen's well educated and only child. He is the model and inspiration of the future. It doesn't mean that he abuses juice boxes from time to time that you should disrespect him.

Ghost-Shot

frozywozy wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

You should take note of how Grom, Stamplar, mouse etc behave, let them serve as your role-models, they seem to be adults.

@Jules Did Daniel just tell you be as mature as Dig? I literally cant even right now.

Hey now, Dig is Varen's well educated and only child. He is the model and inspiration of the future. It doesn't mean that he abuses juice boxes from time to time that you should disrespect him.

No disrespect, just pointing out the irony of the statement that he is totally oblivious to lol.

Winnamine

Nice vid Rubixy

Also, solar barrage before you BoL...for the empower I assume?

kevlarto_ESO

I don't look at whos in what guild don't really care, all I look for is an attackable target, be it player, tree rock what ever I can fight in cyrodiil..LOL Hate to pop your epeen bubble some people just don't care.. /shrug

Aziz

The song is the most ironic thing ever... You just need to be alone

Xsorus

So I watched this video after reading the comments thinking maybe it was a small man; nope a 20 man group... And I will say in the first 3 fights in the video alone you outnumbered the pugs you were fighting; every other fight after that you might of had equal to slightly less except for one fight that cut off in the middle that looked like you were possibly getting close to being out numbered.

Now here is the problem with that

When you release and a video of you smashing a pug Zerg; and you have close to or equal numbers no one is going to take that seriously. Those players in the pug Zerg are zerging because they don't have a dedicated group; they are instead relying on numbers to try and win the fight. This has been the means and the use of zerging for a very long time and why I don't support removing zerging from a game. Because it does serve a purpose.

However.. When you are a dedicated group and you are just zerging yourself it simply looks bad. So I give this video a 1/5 stars. You may take 100 people on like ya say.. But all I saw in this video was pug smashing with a dedicated Zerg group.

DignifiedMouse

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

You should take note of how Grom, Stamplar, mouse etc behave, let them serve as your role-models, they seem to be adults.

@Jules Did Daniel just tell you be as mature as Dig? I literally cant even right now.

Damn. That one got meh right in the feels.

allen-iverson

manny254 wrote: »

Lunch.Box wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Nice video, but...

"We don't run with more than 12"

So did Daniel promote you to raid 1 yet or are you still doing the dishes in raid 4?

bahahah, I still see him wearing his apron.. must of been passed up on that promotion.

He could get a promotion and represent his Guild as Emperor one day. He could one day reach this potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoB6cgSmV2s

i can't even believe what i just watched... the fact that someone this inept at pvp can get emp is mind-numbing.

Everyone on DC should take it upon themselves to make sure this doesnt happen again .

smdh

allen-iverson

cool video by the way rubixy. im liking the usage of the bash healing debuff.

BRogueNZ

nerf templars