Load Times - Improved!

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  • craftycarper73
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    Excellent, glad to hear the fix was successful.

    will the load times be improved for console come weds ?

    thanks
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    Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt



    And they built us a city. They built us these towns

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  • Belidos
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    will the load times be improved for console come weds ?

    thanks

    No, they've stated that it won't be patched to consoles in the next patch as it's too late to add it now, it should be in the one after.
  • Scyantific
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    Well waddya know they actually fixed something.

    Now un-*** Cyrodiil and maybe, just maybe this game might live again.
  • craftycarper73
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    Belidos wrote: »

    No, they've stated that it won't be patched to consoles in the next patch as it's too late to add it now, it should be in the one after.

    cheers bud
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    This is the place in the North West of England

    It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing

    From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking

    Our inventions are legends! There’s nowt we can’t make and



    So we make brilliant music. We make brilliant bands

    We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands

    And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton

    And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten



    And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome

    And we make summat happen, we can’t seem to help it

    And if you’re looking for history then yes, we’ve a wealth

    But the Manchester way is to make it yourself



    And make us a record, a new number one

    And make us a brew while you’re up, love. Go on!

    And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league

    And make us sing louder and make us believe it



    that this is the place that has helped shape the world

    And that this the place where a Manchester girl

    Name of Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side

    Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride



    And this is the place with appliance of science

    We’re on it, atomic, we strut with defiance

    In the face of a challenge we always stand tall

    Mancunians in union delivered it all



    Such as housing and libraries, and health, education

    And unions and co-ops, the first railway station

    So we’re sorry! Bear with us! We invented commuters!

    But we hope you forgive us – we invented computers!



    And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls

    And we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own Northern Soul

    And so this is the place to do business, then dance

    Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance



    And this is the place where we first played as kids

    And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did

    And this is the place where our folks came to work

    Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt



    And they built us a city. They built us these towns

    And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound

    Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves

    They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves



    And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe

    The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive

    And to work and to build, to connect and create and

    Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great



    And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own

    Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home

    And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat

    All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets



    Because this is a place that has been through some hard times

    Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times

    But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit

    Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics



    And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city

    But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity

    Because this a place where we stand strong together

    With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever



    And we’ve got this* as the place where a team with a dream (*Forever Manchester)

    Can get funding and something to help with their scheme

    Because this is the place that understands your grand plans

    We don’t do No Can Do, we just stress Yes We Can!



    Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round ‘ere

    You can fundraise, donate. You can be a volunteer

    You can live local, give local. We can honestly say

    We do charity differently, that Mancunian Way



    And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams

    We support local dreamers to work for their dreams

    We support local groups and the great work they do

    So can you …help us help… local people like you?



    Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes

    Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones

    ‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact

    That this is the place. We should give something back.

    Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.
  • KanedaSyndrome
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    Weird, there's no patch when I open my launcher.
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  • fr33r4ng3r
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    Hugh improvement confirmed! Great job @ZOS!
  • Pangnirtung
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    My average load times went from around 46 seconds to 23 seconds.

    Not bad. :)
  • UrQuan
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    Don't want to sound ungrateful but it still takes 50 seconds to load a V16 character in Wrothgar. I run ESO on a SSD and it never took over 30 seconds before IC patch. 50 seconds is an improvement, which I am more than willing to give you guys credits for but honestly it's not really good enough. I hope you still plan to look for other causes to this issue and work on more fixes. Really miss those 30 seconds old days.

    And one more thing about performance issue in Wrothgar. The FPS is lower in Wrothgar than other zones, especially when I am done grouping with other people doing dailies and then it soon begins to drop significantly. Not sure if it is just me.
    One of the places I loaded into on my quick tests this morning was Wrothgar, and it only took me 15 seconds (actually, I think it was 14 - I was timing each loading screen with a stopwatch, and I think that was the one that ended up being 14 seconds, but I can't be sure - it might have been a different loading screen that was 14). Maybe the difference in our Wrothgar loading experience is because I was doing that immediately after the servers came back online and it wasn't yet very populated?
    From minutes, my loading screens dropped to 20 seconds. However, at least in a first moment, the time to load the character selection screen took a lot of time.

    It could be some sort of data caching, who knows, but if I can travel in and out that quickly, I'm happy.

    Thank you ZOS
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  • Qyrk
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    Just tested it and such a great fix to improve quality of life for players. My loading were never over 20 seconds and tried with Wrothgar, Reapers, Grahtwood, and Cyrodiil.
  • Reverb
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    OMG so much better! The initial load after downloading the update is still long, as always. But porting in between zones and in and out of dungeons takes seconds.
    Edited by Reverb on November 16, 2015 5:29PM
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  • Elsonso
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    Don't want to sound ungrateful but it still takes 50 seconds to load a V16 character in Wrothgar. I run ESO on a SSD and it never took over 30 seconds before IC patch. 50 seconds is an improvement, which I am more than willing to give you guys credits for but honestly it's not really good enough. I hope you still plan to look for other causes to this issue and work on more fixes. Really miss those 30 seconds old days.

    You do need to make sure that it is a 50 second load every time, and not just the first time after the patch was installed. As @UrQuan said, depending on the system you have, that first character load could require additional time. Sometimes it takes so long that people think the game is hung and ALT-F4 to kill the game. (not recommended)

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  • Khaos_Bane
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    Very nice ZOS, keep it up !
  • Olysja
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    i don't get it. all happy because they fixed a thing they broke up 60days ago? O_o
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  • b92303008rwb17_ESO
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    You do need to make sure that it is a 50 second load every time, and not just the first time after the patch was installed. As @UrQuan said, depending on the system you have, that first character load could require additional time. Sometimes it takes so long that people think the game is hung and ALT-F4 to kill the game. (not recommended)

    I did test it a few times, excluding the first time after patch and they were all around 50 seconds. My last post was not about bashing ZOS at all, just a bit disappointed to see most people rejoiced at their 15 second loading time while mine sit at 50. Still much better than one minute and 45 seconds though.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Noticeable improvement on my computer, Thank You :)
  • nimander99
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    I'll add my voice here, tested before work and besides normal longish load times getting into the game I didn't exceed 14 second load times anywhere. Thanks ZoS!
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  • Sotha_Sil
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    /didn't see the patch is not on EU yet :p Can't wait to try tomorrow
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on November 16, 2015 9:02PM
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  • UrQuan
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    Olysja wrote: »
    i don't get it. all happy because they fixed a thing they broke up 60days ago? O_o
    So we're not allowed to be happy when something that has been causing a massive amount of frustration is improved? You don't understand why that would make people happy?
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  • Personofsecrets
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    I'm excited to see this work!
  • Jhunn
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    Inbefore they've ruined something else :trollface:
    Edited by Jhunn on November 16, 2015 9:03PM
    Gave up.
  • Sav72
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    Before IC my load times was about 15s. After IC they were 1:03

    Today 15s to 18s.

    Nice job Zen.
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  • BlackguardBob
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    Too early to tell. Lag is always an issue, but I've never had stuttering.



    Yep it is there. In Auridon in the evening or at night combat can be soooooo much harder to beat it just makes me want to shut down ESO on my console (EU XB1).
  • UltimaJoe777
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    MrGrimey wrote: »
    Looks like console is going to have to wait till mid December for this

    It was stated December 2nd, if I recall correctly.
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  • BajanX
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    YES!! Thank You ZOS! for finally fixing this...
  • Sureshawt
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    Huge improvement! Thanks!
  • Pendrillion
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    Looks awesome so far... Also I feel the Ping is generally lower as well.. But might not be necessarily related.

    Good work at you... Network/Server/Database People! :)

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  • nine9six
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    VERY fast now.
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  • NobleNerd
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    Excellent, glad to hear the fix was successful.

    I would call anything successful with this game when something is implemented that doesn't break 4 other things in the game....

    But

    Seriously I have noticed an ever so slight improvement. It still isn't as good as it should be, but hey I'll take even a few sec. reduction to them.
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    What about the lag and stuttering in places that are crowded with players? Has the patch "improved"/removed them too?

    Completely unrelated so probably not.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    zornyan wrote: »

    Yeah sounds very odd, same for me though, a vr16 took ages to load anywhere, but a fresh character was much much faster.

    Maybe something in the programming was storing all completed qursts, and trying to load them all up for some reason on every new zone ? Possibly for achievement tracking, or the fact it uses quests to determine what areas / instances are available to you and need to be generated.

    The only thing I can think they did was change it so that instead of loading ALL information for every single quest, it now only loads the ones related to that zone.

    So when loading to say, rivenspire it only tries to retrieve information to that zones quests /instances/completions. As opposed to loading every single completed quest to unrelated zones.

    Could just be poor optimization of their database or a poorly written query that doesn't result in an efficient execution path.
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