i dont understand how dual wield daggers

Artemisshrikes

help with a magic based Templar healer everyone is telling me to do it to boost magic which I'm all for but I just don't understand the logic of how this works

UrQuan

It's about upping your spell damage stat. Spell damage is based on your weapon damage, plus modifiers (like anything that adds to it directly). Dual wielding gives you the highest weapon damage, therefore you get a higher spell damage stat. That affects the amount of healing your spells do.

The down side is that it means you have to rely on class heals, rather than mixing class & resto staff skills (and there are some good reasons to use some of those resto staff heals). Also you lose out on magicka replenishment, because you can't weave in heavy attacks to restore your magicka, and if you're a magicka build there's little point in slotting any dual wield skills. You could do dual wield on one bar that has your class heals/damage spells, and use resto staff on the other bar to use resto staff skills and replenish magicka when you're running low.

paulsimonps

if you use dual wield swords or a two handed greatsword the passive for those increases your dmg done by 6% 3% per solo sword and 6% for a great sword. I know a lot of magicka dps's use it but I have never heard of a healers using it. But again its the swords not the daggers.

Artemisshrikes

UrQuan wrote: »

It's about upping your spell damage stat. Spell damage is based on your weapon damage, plus modifiers (like anything that adds to it directly). Dual wielding gives you the highest weapon damage, therefore you get a higher spell damage stat. That affects the amount of healing your spells do.

The down side is that it means you have to rely on class heals, rather than mixing class & resto staff skills (and there are some good reasons to use some of those resto staff heals). Also you lose out on magicka replenishment, because you can't weave in heavy attacks to restore your magicka, and if you're a magicka build there's little point in slotting any dual wield skills. You could do dual wield on one bar that has your class heals/damage spells, and use resto staff on the other bar to use resto staff skills and replenish magicka when you're running low.

I use combat prayer

UrQuan

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

It's about upping your spell damage stat. Spell damage is based on your weapon damage, plus modifiers (like anything that adds to it directly). Dual wielding gives you the highest weapon damage, therefore you get a higher spell damage stat. That affects the amount of healing your spells do.

The down side is that it means you have to rely on class heals, rather than mixing class & resto staff skills (and there are some good reasons to use some of those resto staff heals). Also you lose out on magicka replenishment, because you can't weave in heavy attacks to restore your magicka, and if you're a magicka build there's little point in slotting any dual wield skills. You could do dual wield on one bar that has your class heals/damage spells, and use resto staff on the other bar to use resto staff skills and replenish magicka when you're running low.

I use combat prayer

Yeah, personally with my templar healer I like to use a resto staff on both bars, because I like to use a mix of class heals and resto staff heals, and I like being able to replenish my magicka with heavy attacks without having to swap bars, as well as weaving in attacks from range to build ultimate. I understand the theory behind doing a templar healer with dual wield, but in practice it just wouldn't work with my play style, so I don't do it. Combat prayer is a good example of a resto staff skill that is very useful for any healer, even a templar with good class heals to rely on.

Reeko

Use Swords not Daggers.

failkiwib16_ESO

O.o healers usually, not always wear 1 resto and 1 destro, for the purpose of magicka resource management.

Resto = siphon spirit (grants magicka) and combat prayer (boosts dps).
Destro = Elemental Drain (grants magicka) and Crushing Shock (lets you interrupt casting targets, such as enemy healers and archers).

Dual Wielding swords will improve your spell damage, but you can not use resto staff skills on that bar. 2 Handed will boost your damage, but you can not use resto staff skills on that bar either. << It's only recomended if you actually do damage while you heal, that way you can benefit from the extra damage you will be able to do.

Usually you equipt 1 resto staff for healing and in worst case magicka gain with heavy attacks...and either DW or 2handed as your secondary bar for doing damage.

Cuyler

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

magic based Templar healer

This^ should be Resto/Destro.....ALWAYS. Don't let ppl fool you

The dual wield thing is great for magicka DD.

Usara

On top of the fact that templar healers don't actually need that much spell power, it's far more efficient to manage the resources of the actual DD's of the group.

I did try using 2 swords at the IC DLC. Felt useless. Yeah, I had a bit more spell power but what for ? I dealt 1k+ more dps with my Spear Shards.

Now when keeping Elemental Drain for my DKs and Sorcs, they don't waste time casting it and DK don't have to worry about their resource anymore

newtinmpls

Reeko wrote: »

Use Swords not Daggers.

Daggers for crit, I thought. Maybe I'll have to look again.

failkiwib16_ESO

newtinmpls wrote: »

Reeko wrote: »

Use Swords not Daggers.

Daggers for crit, I thought. Maybe I'll have to look again.

Daggers add more to weapon crit, which is useless for a magicka build... so people use swords with precise trait, because the trait also applies to spell crit

Alternatively nirnhoon traited swords, to add to spell penetration and spell resistance.