They finally heard us!!

WillhelmBlack

Also, so hyped about the Akaviri crafting Motif's, makes sense to put them in Cyrodiil.

Can we have Yokudan i.e Way of Air, Martial Knowledge Motifs now? Drop in Craglorn, Trials etc pls. If not, can we have VR16 versions drop from Trials or chests?

saiyan_84

Please for the love of god and all things holy, make the new sets available through pvp boxes that costs AP like before the ICDLC. Even though RNG is a GOD AWFUL system, I'll live with it as long as its made available for I do not pve. I have no love for it and I can bet soooooooo much money I am not only one who feels this way.

All the sets in IC that I thought was worth anything like sheer venom or thief essence or overwhelming surge was tied to PV mf'in E. I thought IC was suppose to be the big pvp dlc and yet you have to pve for your gear? . As a hardcore pve'er, you could get the "pvp" armor sets (shield breaker and all the others) through PVEing (grind mobs in the sewers till u gather enough TV stones) or even freaking just buying them on the guild traders. NOT ONE lick of pvp had to be done, but as a PVPer, there was no way you could pvp for any of the "pve" armor sets.

KIND of UNFAIR? Make it fair this time.

EIGHTS

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Also, so hyped about the Akaviri crafting Motif's, makes sense to put them in Cyrodiil.

Can we have Yokudan i.e Way of Air, Martial Knowledge Motifs now? Drop in Craglorn, Trials etc pls. If not, can we have VR16 versions drop from Trials or chests?

They said 'Loot will be contextualized to your level'.
Maybe you can get those gears in VR16.

Crown

If you want to see some pictures, I posted a thread here:

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222670/akaviri-images

MountainHound

Allow us to buy AP Helm/Shoulder bags that gives unique sets catered to PVP with random traits from each one (So it is like the Normal and vet pledge randomness). Or for the helm have it as a reward for completing all of the kill pledges each day?

Siege Master
1 Piece: x Health
2 Piece: 30%+ Increase siege damage (all siege)

Mojican Buster
1 Piece: x Health
2 Piece: 100% damage shield from Mojican

The Ravager set was really cool. We need more sets like that available with AP.

Ghostbane

MountainHound wrote: »

Mojican Buster
1 Piece: x Health
2 Piece: 100% damage shield from Mojican

Don't make him run Shieldbreaker...

babanovac

Crown wrote: »

If you want to see some pictures, I posted a thread here:

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222670/akaviri-images

This motif looks really really bad

Yolokin_Swagonborn

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

In other words, you don't want the PvP jewelry sets to compete with the Orsinium gear so you are going to wait till after orsinium launches so that everyone who wants more than THREE endgame jewelry sets has to buy the DLC.

Is that what "desired cadence of gear introduction" means?

I really hope that isn't the reason. It seems so much like a marketing decision and not a decision based on what is best for the players of the game.

I know that things take time. That's not an issue. Anyone still playing this game knows how to wait. It bothers me when certain content (V16 DSA, V16 Craglorn Trials, V16 PvP gear) seems to be intentionally suppressed to promote new DLC.

Why cant we have both new DLC and our old endgame content updated to V16? Or even better, no more level cap gear grabs at all.

People will play content that is FUN. Make it fun, we will buy it. No need to gear grab (via level cap raise) to force us to buy it, then hold all previous content hostage until the new content has been out.

Think like a gamer. Not a marketer.

k2blader

Raizin wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Questions:
1) What is "a huge amount of AP" ?
2) Will the chapters be tradeable?

1) 100k AP
2) No

No way it'll be 100k AP. The VR14 purple stuff was 250k. So I'm gonna guess.. I dunno.. 400-500k. More ?

k2blader

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Would you please provide some desirable gear for magicka builds (sorcs especially) other than rings?

Starshadw

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

If the amounts required to buy are still accurate, I'd ask that you take a second look because for a lot of people, they are ridiculously expensive. Here's a core problem you folks have yet to address:

AP is needed to purchase siege engines/equipment and repair kits. But, because of the AP gear boxes, lots of people simply refuse to buy siege, repair walls, etc., instead letting that burden rest on the shoulders of fewer PvP players. Adding in more gear and other things that can be purchased with AP is simply going to make this continue to be a problem. Thus, those who buy the siege engines and repair the walls - you know, those PvP tasks that you want players to do and which are needed in PvP - don't have millions of AP banked.

One possible solution to this is to implement a sort of secondary spending to AP. Meaning that while we earn AP and can spend it as a currency on things like siege engines and repair kits, we can also spend our "permanent" amount of AP earned over the lifetime of our character.

For example, let's say my character has 80,000 AP currency, but over the lifetime of the character, has earned 2,600,000 AP. For things like gear, gear boxes, motif chapters, etc., instead of spending the currency, I make expenditures against the total amount I've earned. Thus, to illustrate: let's say I wanted to buy 15 gear boxes at 10,000 AP each, and two motif chapters at 200,000 AP each. That's a total of 550,000 AP, which would leave me with 2,050,000 AP.

Both AP amounts would continue to accrue as I continue to PvP. But doing this would encourage people to buy siege engines and repair kits, as opposed to hoarding AP (and AP farming) so they can buy gear/boxes/motifs/whatever other items may be offered in the future.

FireCowCommando

I am curious, out of those who have, or can reasonably obtain that 4.3 million AP, who here is willing to spend it on a motif?

I already have half the required amount banked up, and could obtain the rest in less then 2 weeks. However i dont see myself wanting to spend my PvP currency on a motif. I am going to wait for something else that is more worth while.

Cody

interesting....

RadioheadSh0t

FireCowCommando wrote: »

I am curious, out of those who have, or can reasonably obtain that 4.3 million AP, who here is willing to spend it on a motif?

I already have half the required amount banked up, and could obtain the rest in less then 2 weeks. However i dont see myself wanting to spend my PvP currency on a motif. I am going to wait for something else that is more worth while.

0% chance I'd spend it on a motif.

I'll just save it for when they upgrade PvP vendors.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

I have suggested having an ESO tea party where we record ourselves destroying willpower and agility rings in game. Perhaps we should also buy some of these motifs and destroy them in game as well.

We want PvP gear. V16 PvP gear. With jewelry. Our old sets. Thats it.


Save the cosmetic crap for the carebears.

Peel_Ya_Cap_517

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

Why not just update the AP purchasable sets to VR16? Problem solved.

contact.opiumb16_ESO

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom will the old pvp sets (ravager and so on) be updated to v16 ?

Legedric

Guys, please read this thread before posting the very same questions over and over again:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

So VR16 AP gear won't be in game until after Orsinium at least (if ever).

Dreyloch

markgd88nrb18_ESO wrote: »

Yes, because AP should be spent on something which has absolutely no affect in PvP...at all...ZoSense at it's finest.

Upgrading the loot bags and PvP vendor sets to VR16 would have been a wiser move, as has been screamed by many a PvPer since the VR cap increase.

And we shouldn't have to buy another DLC to get it. Just even updated sets on the vendors should have been included with IC and the new level cap. Now we don't have to buy another DLC, but who knows if/when they will even DO upgraded sets?

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

I am curious, out of those who have, or can reasonably obtain that 4.3 million AP, who here is willing to spend it on a motif?

I already have half the required amount banked up, and could obtain the rest in less then 2 weeks. However i dont see myself wanting to spend my PvP currency on a motif. I am going to wait for something else that is more worth while.

0% chance I'd spend it on a motif.

I'll just save it for when they upgrade PvP vendors.

Yep, I'm on board with this too. Wish there was a way to suggest none of us PvP'ers buy this crap so ZoS sees how stupid it is. I like my gear to look good, but function over form is a much bigger priority ti me.