They finally heard us!!

ZtruK · October 2015

The removal of sub was the worst thing ever for this game

Each new patch is a mandatory PvE grind to compete in PvP. Even the IC which was a PvP update was a huge PvE grind. If we had a sub they might be able to have a PvP system where players could PvP the entire time and maintain competitive gaer from just PvP.

Maulkin · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Good to hear but to clarify: you mean patch, not update, right?

So if Orsinium is the next update (8) and say Murkmire is after that (9) , will the patch be coming at some point between 8 and 9. Or is it going to be coming with update 9?

_Chaos · October 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Good to hear but to clarify: you mean patch, not update, right?

So if Orsinium is the next update (8) and say Murkmire is after that (9) , will the patch be coming at some point between 8 and 9. Or is it going to be coming with update 9?

A patch is any download from the launcher that's not a major update, such as the one we had on October 2nd.

Edit: So when he says a later patch, it means it could come anytime between next week and three years from now. Which is nearly the same as saying "we don't establish deadlines, we'll get to it when we get to it"

What's more ridiculous is that this is basic economy balance. I personally have millions of useless AP.

What kind of PVP update renders PVP currency obsolete? LIKE REALLY.

Septimus_Magna · October 2015

Anyone saying that Akaviri motif pages will be BoP is clearly trolling. A huge part of the ESO players doesnt do PVP and will want these motifs. Making these motif pages BoP would be like a sucker punch for many PVE and PVP players.

Im curious what a large amount of AP is according to ZOS, especially now console players have to be taken into account.

Takllin · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Thank you, this is something that we can get behind.

Legedric · October 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Good to hear but to clarify: you mean patch, not update, right?

So if Orsinium is the next update (8) and say Murkmire is after that (9) , will the patch be coming at some point between 8 and 9. Or is it going to be coming with update 9?

Well, if we look at how things went in the past, I'd say he means the next major patch so probably sometime in February/March. I do hope it's an incremental patch but I doubt it to be honest.

EIGHTS · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

This is a GOOD news!!

Ghostbane · October 2015

"Guys. We have came up with a big pile of new awesome, hard to obtain, gear sets, that will keep you guys busy! We know you PVPers have been saving up millions of AP to control the games gold economy (again). We are truly sorry, but you kinds shouldn't have it so easy. Therefore, run your dailies, dungeons 20 times a day to *maybe* get a boots drop with Sturdy"
- Brianus Wheelus

Insurrektion · October 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

How about useful pvp potions for boosting stats/regen, or pvp gear that is actually better in pvp than raid gear?

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

Raizin wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Questions:
1) What is "a huge amount of AP" ?
2) Will the chapters be tradeable?

1) 100k AP
2) No

Lol you must be trollin aye?

100K AP is not a huge amount, you can earn it in a short while.
Even the sadly still Vr14 ranked good stuff like Ravaging/Cyrdoills Light from Elite Vendor are above 200K each, after pricing came down.

And they should be tradeable, so all can access the new shizzle.
And going by past history, they will be.

Garion · October 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

While I am grateful that you are making an effort to have AP actually worth something following the invalidation of AP as a currency after 2.0, your response begs a certain question... If you're "very aware" that the general consensus is that we need more to spend AP on, and you are actively working on implementing this, why is it not happening sooner? Linked to this...

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Why "in a later patch"? For over a year PvPers craved an update, and during this time you and other members of the ZOS team kept dropping hints about IC and how it's going to be this awesome PvP update. What we got is a base game patch that addressed absolutely no balance issues and instead promotes zerging even further, twinned with a DLC that is fundamentally a PvE update.

It's about time you start catering to PvPers a little better, particularly you, @ZOS_BrianWheeler, as ESO PvP lead. We've seen enough "soon™" posts, followed up with very poor results. As a customer to a service provider, I say this:

You need to do better

and I speak for a lot of people in doing so.

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

Garion wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

While I am grateful that you are making an effort to have AP actually worth something following the invalidation of AP as a currency after 2.0, your response begs a certain question... If you're "very aware" that the general consensus is that we need more to spend AP on, and you are actively working on implementing this, why is it not happening sooner? Linked to this...

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Why "in a later patch"? For over a year PvPers craved an update, and during this time you and other members of the ZOS team kept dropping hints about IC and how it's going to be this awesome PvP update. What we got is a base game patch that addressed absolutely no balance issues and instead promotes zerging even further, twinned with a DLC that is fundamentally a PvE update.

It's about time you start catering to PvPers a little better, particularly you, @ZOS_BrianWheeler, as ESO PvP lead. We've seen enough "soon™" posts, followed up with very poor results. As a customer to a service provider, I say this:

You need to do better

and I speak for a lot of people in doing so.

Well said sir

Legedric · October 2015

Garion wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

While I am grateful that you are making an effort to have AP actually worth something following the invalidation of AP as a currency after 2.0, your response begs a certain question... If you're "very aware" that the general consensus is that we need more to spend AP on, and you are actively working on implementing this, why is it not happening sooner? Linked to this...

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Why "in a later patch"? For over a year PvPers craved an update, and during this time you and other members of the ZOS team kept dropping hints about IC and how it's going to be this awesome PvP update. What we got is a base game patch that addressed absolutely no balance issues and instead promotes zerging even further, twinned with a DLC that is fundamentally a PvE update.

It's about time you start catering to PvPers a little better, particularly you, @ZOS_BrianWheeler, as ESO PvP lead. We've seen enough "soon™" posts, followed up with very poor results. As a customer to a service provider, I say this:

You need to do better

and I speak for a lot of people in doing so.

Amen!

Imperial City was a shame for PvP players as there is literally nothing to obtain from doing PvP at all and Orsinium is bringing some nonsense crafting style.

Get some work done @ZOS_BrianWheeler! And do it fast, please!

_adhyffbjjjf12 · October 2015

Capturing flags for a multiplier boost (with a 5 min cooldown) in IC along more interesting options found the shop for all those stones would be a nice touch in IC IMO.

Nafirian · October 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

Can we have dynamic ultimate generation now? please? *hands zos monney* Plz

Legedric · October 2015

So sad but I doubt we will get this ever

Legedric · October 2015

FYI: Just saw it on Deltias stream, the crafting style books cost between 250k (for like boots and so on) and 500k (for swords for example) AP...

FireCowCommando · October 2015

Legedric wrote: »

FYI: Just saw it on Deltias stream, the crafting style books cost between 250k (for like boots and so on) and 500k (for swords for example) AP...

3 at 100,000 AP = 300,000
6 at 250,000 AP = 1,500,000
5 at 500,000 AP = 2,500,000

To get all 14 chapters it requires 4,300,000 AP.

VincentBlanquin · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

why? we want get pvp gear now for actual pvping. whats later patch? dark brotherhood?

RadioheadSh0t · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Vendor Gear will be updated to max level (VR) in a later patch.

Thank you very much.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · October 2015

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

VincentBlanquin · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

thank you for your honesty, we at least know how it is. But your team plan is wrong, and it will cost you customers and money. there should be some pvp gear reward upgrade every patch, even if thats are 3 sets only. and acquired by pvping and not pve grinding

this is what every pvper can say to you i am sure

Legedric · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

This is so sad... just so sad...

Why wasn't it done with IC? The designated PvP DLC that brought just NOTHING rewarding for PvP at all?

Ghostbane · October 2015

If there were v16 Shadow Walker or Rav rings, would you farm for Agility rings?

FireCowCommando · October 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

thank you for your honesty, we at least know how it is. But your team plan is wrong, and it will cost you customers and money. there should be some pvp gear reward upgrade every patch, even if thats are 3 sets only. and acquired by pvping and not pve grinding

this is what every pvper can say to you i am sure

Its not his team, as he said its the other teams ignoring the PvP.

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

Ghostbane wrote: »

If there were v16 Shadow Walker or Rav rings, would you farm for Agility rings?

Nope, Ravaging etc all the way for stamina builds, Agility is a stop gap till then as far as I am concerned.

VincentBlanquin · October 2015

FireCowCommando wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

thank you for your honesty, we at least know how it is. But your team plan is wrong, and it will cost you customers and money. there should be some pvp gear reward upgrade every patch, even if thats are 3 sets only. and acquired by pvping and not pve grinding

this is what every pvper can say to you i am sure

Its not his team, as he said its the other teams ignoring the PvP.

zos team at all

ZtruK · October 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

thank you for your honesty, we at least know how it is. But your team plan is wrong, and it will cost you customers and money. there should be some pvp gear reward upgrade every patch, even if thats are 3 sets only. and acquired by pvping and not pve grinding

this is what every pvper can say to you i am sure

This system probably died with the sub model. They need PvP players to pay for something or we don't add to their bottom line. Therefore we need to grind PvE xpacks to compete. They will upgrade the PvP gear at a later time when sales drop. Sad, but the PvP side of this game was designed for a sub.

VincentBlanquin · October 2015

ZtruK wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@VincentBlanquin The "Why not now" is simply a matter of scheduling and timing of resources available to do those changes based on the itemization plan laid out by the itemization and combat team for their desired cadence of gear introduction.

thank you for your honesty, we at least know how it is. But your team plan is wrong, and it will cost you customers and money. there should be some pvp gear reward upgrade every patch, even if thats are 3 sets only. and acquired by pvping and not pve grinding

this is what every pvper can say to you i am sure

This system probably died with the sub model. They need PvP players to pay for something or we don't add to their bottom line. Therefore we need to grind PvE xpacks to compete. They will upgrade the PvP gear at a later time when sales drop. Sad, but the PvP side of this game was designed for a sub.

but free to play games has smaller problem with this than zos

WillhelmBlack · October 2015

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Dominoid wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

Except this gives you the ability to convert AP to massive amounts of gold easily and buy whatever you want.

Like the old days when AP was a good money generator.

You gonna grace us with your presence then?