They finally heard us!!

Erondil

ORSINIUM BASE-GAME PATCH
In addition to the Orsinium DLC game pack launch, everyone who owns The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited will receive the base-game patch at no cost. The Orsinium base-game patch includes gamepad support for PC, subtitles for all platforms, shield dyeing, improvements to battle-leveling, fixes and improvements to existing game systems and content, and more! Here are some of the highlights:

Gamepad support
Subtitles
LFG improvements – cross-alliance dungeons
Champion Point cap & catch-up system
Shield Dyeing
Improvements to battle-leveling
Akaviri crafting style
Ability balance and bug fixes
New ways to spend Alliance Points
Increased item drop rates
…and more!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES - BASE-GAME PATCH

Akaviri Crafting Style
The secrets of the Akaviri crafting style have been uncovered by scholars on the front lines of the Alliance War!

• Siege merchants in Cyrodiil will sell chapters of the Akaviri Style for large amounts of Alliance Points.
• The merchants will also sell the raw style material needed to craft Akaviri items, Ancient Scale, for a modicum of Alliance Points.
  

AWESOME AP is still totally useless, except for collectors to get some bad looking gear.

FireCowCommando

They also mentioned the addition of new sets in the game, i am hoping that some of these are from alliance war.

Or they at least updated the old PvP vendor sets to v16.

Hope is still alive, at least until tomorrow when the PTS is back up.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

SHADOW2KK

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

Oh , me likey.

Takllin

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

SHADOW2KK

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

So being able to buy crafting mats and new motif for Akavari with AP which is nigh on useless now is cosmetic and useless?

Not too sure what you read:P

Sounds way better to me than pure rng on writs or drops or buying motifs or w/e.

Dominoid

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

Except this gives you the ability to convert AP to massive amounts of gold easily and buy whatever you want.

SHADOW2KK

Dominoid wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

Except this gives you the ability to convert AP to massive amounts of gold easily and buy whatever you want.

Like the old days when AP was a good money generator.

Jitterbug

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

upping the vendor stuff to max level would be, in a word, awesome

PainfulFAFA

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

In a nut shell, yes.

• no v16 lockboxes
• no new armor sets
• no sign of campaign reward revamp

So yes. All cosmetics.

SHADOW2KK

Jitterbug wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

upping the vendor stuff to max level would be, in a word, awesome

Aye agreed, elite vendor shizzle upped to Vr16 with the new ways to spend AP would be great IMO

Preyfar

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Like the old days when AP was a good money generator.

I used to spend about 20K a day PVPing (wall repair costs mostly, but siege and potions generate a lot of costs). With IC, the removal of the vendor bags killed my income to the point I and a lot of my PVP guild can't quite afford to PVP hardcore anymore. It's a seriously costly endeavor, so... me? I'm happy as a clam. This is one of the things I was suggesting for a long time (though also giving players the ability to craft their faction armor motif).

Definitely a step in the right direction!

SHADOW2KK

Preyfar wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Like the old days when AP was a good money generator.

I used to spend about 20K a day PVPing (wall repair costs mostly, but siege and potions generate a lot of costs). With IC, the removal of the vendor bags killed my income to the point I and a lot of my PVP guild can't quite afford to PVP hardcore anymore. It's a seriously costly endeavor, so... me? I'm happy as a clam. This is one of the things I was suggesting for a long time (though also giving players the ability to craft their faction armor motif).

Definitely a step in the right direction!

defo matey, defo, and aye I hear ya.

Good on you ZoS for doing this, gonna make many happy here with these changes to AP:}

Sanct16

Questions:
1) What is "a huge amount of AP" ?
2) Will the chapters be tradeable?

imredneckson

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

FINALLY!!!! THANK YOU!!!!

DUTCH_REAPER

Shield dyeing! Oh happy day!

SHADOW2KK

Sanct16 wrote: »

Questions:
1) What is "a huge amount of AP" ?
2) Will the chapters be tradeable?

Hope so for your 2nd question, good money maker right there:D

Makkir

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

PvP Gear would be a great start

Alucardo

inb4 we burn 5,000,000 AP on motif and it ends up in the crown store for 5k 2 weeks later. I'm really sorry.. I think it's a great idea, but after the glass fiasco, well..

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Would be nice if someone posts the prices here when the PTS is online. Got a few million AP to spend, so I have money to craft new gear with the next update

Alucardo

Considering each chapter is going to cost "large" amounts of AP, would you consider lowering the price of repair kits? I went through 73k AP on them in a single day (granted it was a Saturday and busy). If you can't lower the prices, then they could have a lifespan of 5 uses, but you receive the same amount of AP from each kit.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Alucardo wrote: »

Considering each chapter is going to cost "large" amounts of AP, would you consider lowering the price of repair kits? I went through 73k AP on them in a single day (granted it was a Saturday and busy). If you can't lower the prices, then they could have a lifespan of 5 uses, but you receive the same amount of AP from each kit.

No one knows what that "large amount" will be. I think it's probably in the range of v14 gear, nothing too crazy... else most players would'nt get any chapter from AP in a somewhat reasonable time.

Minnesinger

I guess it is time to start saving my AP. If nothing else I will float the market with style items. My AP My Gold!

aco5712

i am happy with this change. I dont care if AP doesnt buy you new gear. I just want AP to be able to be converted to money again. Its very frustrating when you just wanna play pvp but you have no money to upgrade your items/buy pots. I always spent all my AP on morag tong boxes and ravager items because it was my way of farming cash. The same way PvE players farm dungeons and arena and whatever else.

Takllin

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

So being able to buy crafting mats and new motif for Akavari with AP which is nigh on useless now is cosmetic and useless?

Not too sure what you read:P

Sounds way better to me than pure rng on writs or drops or buying motifs or w/e.

I read the same thing you did. You might want to reread what I've said though.

Dominoid wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

Except this gives you the ability to convert AP to massive amounts of gold easily and buy whatever you want.

Like I said, it's relatively useless outside of cosmetics. People will pay gold for cosmetics, I didn't think that I needed to dumb it down that much.

Will I buy the motif and sell it to the suckers who are willing to overpay for it to have it on day one? You bet. Am I happy that it's still relatively useless despite this? Nope.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

This is nice at least. Giving us vendor bags and armor that scales to the highest level would be a great area to do this at again.

Do you have any time table for any of this stuff? It's been a long time since we've had a Road Ahead or any indication on where PvP, or any part of this game is headed.

Will you all still think that it's useful a month or two after when the market dries up? It's not like AP is hard to come by either, and lots of people have had nothing to spend it on for a while, so there is a lot out there to spend on these.

SHADOW2KK

Takllin wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

So being able to buy crafting mats and new motif for Akavari with AP which is nigh on useless now is cosmetic and useless?

Not too sure what you read:P

Sounds way better to me than pure rng on writs or drops or buying motifs or w/e.

I read the same thing you did. You might want to reread what I've said though.

Dominoid wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

Except this gives you the ability to convert AP to massive amounts of gold easily and buy whatever you want.

Like I said, it's relatively useless outside of cosmetics. People will pay gold for cosmetics, I didn't think that I needed to dumb it down that much.

Will I buy the motif and sell it to the suckers who are willing to overpay for it to have it on day one? You bet. Am I happy that it's still relatively useless despite this? Nope.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

So you are confirming that AP is still relatively useless outside of cosmetics. Gotcha.

We read these forums daily (and Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc.) We're very aware that the general consensus is they need more value and diverse things to spend them on.

This is nice at least. Giving us vendor bags and armor that scales to the highest level would be a great area to do this at again.

Do you have any time table for any of this stuff? It's been a long time since we've had a Road Ahead or any indication on where PvP, or any part of this game is headed.

You mentioned cosmetics, I do not see crafting mats for new cosmetics as being completely cosmetic, so maybe agree to disagree here matey.

Forestd16b14_ESO

No if ZOS really heard us they stop with makeing every new thing a freaking chapter. The chapter gimik died faster than arrow to the knee.

Dagoth_Rac

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

upping the vendor stuff to max level would be, in a word, awesome

Aye agreed, elite vendor shizzle upped to Vr16 with the new ways to spend AP would be great IMO

ZOS want people to buy their DLC. For better or worse, it is how the company makes money now. If you could buy best-in-slot endgame gear with AP, there would be no need to buy the DLC. No VR16 gear with AP is akin to no VR16 gear from Trials/DSA. Those are not oversights. It is not something they did not have time to fit into the development schedule. They are deliberate decisions. You can earn AP without buying the DLC. You can run Trials and DSA without buying DLC. They are not going to incentivize running base game content.

ThyIronFist

If ZOS really heard us and read the forums, suggestions, etc. etc. then the game wouldn't be in the state it is currently.

In fact I'd sooner believe that the Earth was made by an old man with a white beard that sits in the clouds somewhere rather than believe that ZOS ever cared, or will ever care about PvP.

SHADOW2KK

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just to clarify, for the Orsinium patch, the new thing coming for AP is that you can use it to purchase racial motif items for the first time (Akaviri chapters and the Akaviri crafting material), as the patch notes state. We are still discussing additional ways to add value to AP and give you more and diverse ways to spend it.

upping the vendor stuff to max level would be, in a word, awesome

Aye agreed, elite vendor shizzle upped to Vr16 with the new ways to spend AP would be great IMO

ZOS want people to buy their DLC. For better or worse, it is how the company makes money now. If you could buy best-in-slot endgame gear with AP, there would be no need to buy the DLC. No VR16 gear with AP is akin to no VR16 gear from Trials/DSA. Those are not oversights. It is not something they did not have time to fit into the development schedule. They are deliberate decisions. You can earn AP without buying the DLC. You can run Trials and DSA without buying DLC. They are not going to incentivize running base game content.

Aye true, but I am more bothered about the PvP element of this, Trials and DSA I have ran a few times each, and tbh they bore me to death, but agree with what you are saying:}

However trial and dsa/vdsa gear rewards should be vr16 or they are even more pointless to do than normal, same defo applies with the good PvP sets like Ravaging and Cyrodills Light amongst others, and this should be base game content/patched in.