Orsinium - raising VR lvl?

Conquers

will Orsinium raise the VR cap? i personally hope not, i have been working hard to build a vr16 set from crafting, and if i just finish by november just for it to be outdated by a vr18set, what is the point? we have a grind that will take longer than the time between DLC. after farming from console release of IC to now, i only have a legendary feet, hands, shoulders, belt. should i not bother with chest etc and do something else?!

Callous2208

All reports so far indicate no VR cap raise with the release of Orsinium.

FuzzyDuck79

You bet the cap will be raised. All the gear available now will be nerfed too it seems. Also be prepared for massive changes to how the game plays and bugs. Bugs and more bugs. Oh and possibly more grinding too.

kevlarto_ESO

ESO live they said the level cap would not be raised, of course anything can happen, but that was the last official word I heard, came out of a couple of ESO lives back.

Kammakazi

How about no.

Callous2208

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

You bet the cap will be raised. All the gear available now will be nerfed too it seems. Also be prepared for massive changes to how the game plays and bugs. Bugs and more bugs. Oh and possibly more grinding too.

Guy asked a legitimate question. Based on what we know as of right now, no the cap will not be raised. Why did you read the thread title and op as, "please rage and tell me how you think they will mess up the game with Orsinium."?

Conquers

Thanks for the responses, Although i'll just have to craft vr16 again anyway for the probable awesome orsimer motifs that could be added lol (this is just my speculation, I did not see anywhere new motifs will be added)

RustedValor

No need for them to raise the cap since VR16 gear should be sufficient for them to add more item sets. People have barely even had a chance to get the current vr16 sets. They are working towards getting rid of the vet system all together so no worries.

Callous2208

Conquers wrote: »

Thanks for the responses, Although i'll just have to craft vr16 again anyway for the probable awesome orsimer motifs that could be added lol (this is just my speculation, I did not see anywhere new motifs will be added)

You may be right on that. There was a picture released with an orc in some epic looking new gear. Whether that was a new motif or costume, we do not yet know.

FuzzyDuck79

Yeah I apologise for posting my opinion on a dlc that I know nothing about and base my theories off the last dlc they released, raising the level cap to vr16 when they were doing away with veteran levels.

Conquers

Callous2208 wrote: »

Conquers wrote: »

Thanks for the responses, Although i'll just have to craft vr16 again anyway for the probable awesome orsimer motifs that could be added lol (this is just my speculation, I did not see anywhere new motifs will be added)

You may be right on that. There was a picture released with an orc in some epic looking new gear. Whether that was a new motif or costume, we do not yet know.

OR King Kurog donning new armor to lead his people, meaning we probably cannot look like that, and just drool at our amazing leader

Callous2208

Conquers wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Conquers wrote: »

Thanks for the responses, Although i'll just have to craft vr16 again anyway for the probable awesome orsimer motifs that could be added lol (this is just my speculation, I did not see anywhere new motifs will be added)

You may be right on that. There was a picture released with an orc in some epic looking new gear. Whether that was a new motif or costume, we do not yet know.

OR King Kurog donning new armor to lead his people, meaning we probably cannot look like that, and just drool at our amazing leader

Ahh, I hope not. That armor looked really, really good.

Sausage

They said no, Orsinium is for weapons.

code65536

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

Yeah I apologise for posting my opinion on a dlc that I know nothing about and base my theories off the last dlc they released, raising the level cap to vr16 when they were doing away with veteran levels.

Seeing as how their official Twitter account's response is no-level-cap-increase to someone who replied to their Orsinium teaser the other day (in addition to all those other official statements prior), there's no reason to think otherwise.

Their previous comments about removing veteran levels were made a long, long time before IC. These, in contrast, are a string of consistent comments made during the marketing rampup for Orsinium.

Rook_Master

RustedValor wrote: »

No need for them to raise the cap since VR16 gear should be sufficient for them to add more item sets. People have barely even had a chance to get the current vr16 sets. They are working towards getting rid of the vet system all together so no worries.

It's never going away. It's really just not. Maybe after a few more expacs and VR level cap increases people will realize this.

Jitterbug

I dont think vet lvls Will go away either, sadly.
They have had many chances to do so.

I still want them gone though so cadwells can at least be sort of optional

ZOS_GinaBruno

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

Conquers

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

Thanks Gina! I am a happy crafter now!

nimander99

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

So that's a maybe.

FuzzyDuck79

See how easy that was... why can't we get more straight answers from ZoS about the content of the game and future dlc?

MisterJimothy

Rook_Master wrote: »

RustedValor wrote: »

No need for them to raise the cap since VR16 gear should be sufficient for them to add more item sets. People have barely even had a chance to get the current vr16 sets. They are working towards getting rid of the vet system all together so no worries.

It's never going away. It's really just not. Maybe after a few more expacs and VR level cap increases people will realize this.

As they have stated quite a few times now, they are going away. As they have also stated many times, it's going to take a while for that to happen. Almost every single aspect of this game is tied to levels. Normal, Vet, doesn't matter for the sake of this discussion. Monsters, items, entire zones, skills, and other things are all tied to levels. It's not just some switch that you can turn off and make everything better. That's why we got the V16 increase in IC. They said that rather than hold up content to wait for the Vet system to be removed, they went ahead and upped the scale in a system (Vet Ranks) that they already have that provides vertical progression along with content (I'm not here to argue about the way it was implemented, but at its core, IC gives you more progression, new gear, and new content).

MisterJimothy

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

See how easy that was... why can't we get more straight answers from ZoS about the content of the game and future dlc?

To their credit, they've already stated it multiple times over the last few weeks.

olsborg

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

Please never do, the gear grind is too grueling atm, to make it worse is...inconcievable.

FuzzyDuck79

MisterJimothy wrote: »

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

See how easy that was... why can't we get more straight answers from ZoS about the content of the game and future dlc?

To their credit, they've already stated it multiple times over the last few weeks.

I was on about answers to other things. But then I suppose nobody can be an expert on everything in game and we can't rely on the mods having all the correct info.

MisterJimothy

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

MisterJimothy wrote: »

FuzzyDuck79 wrote: »

See how easy that was... why can't we get more straight answers from ZoS about the content of the game and future dlc?

To their credit, they've already stated it multiple times over the last few weeks.

I was on about answers to other things. But then I suppose not everybody's an expert on everything in game and we can't rely on the mods having all the correct info.

Ah. Yeah, in general, straight responses are hard to come by, though, I do see more of them in the last few months than at the beginning.

ZOS, want advice? Simple answers like this, as well as straight acknowledging and providing a broad timeline for work on DKs like you did yesterday. That's good stuff, even if we don't like it. Also, we miss Rich's /lurks.

mr_wazzabi

MisterJimothy wrote: »

Rook_Master wrote: »

RustedValor wrote: »

No need for them to raise the cap since VR16 gear should be sufficient for them to add more item sets. People have barely even had a chance to get the current vr16 sets. They are working towards getting rid of the vet system all together so no worries.

It's never going away. It's really just not. Maybe after a few more expacs and VR level cap increases people will realize this.

As they have stated quite a few times now, they are going away. As they have also stated many times, it's going to take a while for that to happen. Almost every single aspect of this game is tied to levels. Normal, Vet, doesn't matter for the sake of this discussion. Monsters, items, entire zones, skills, and other things are all tied to levels. It's not just some switch that you can turn off and make everything better. That's why we got the V16 increase in IC. They said that rather than hold up content to wait for the Vet system to be removed, they went ahead and upped the scale in a system (Vet Ranks) that they already have that provides vertical progression along with content (I'm not here to argue about the way it was implemented, but at its core, IC gives you more progression, new gear, and new content).

They could have given us the new gear and content at vr 14. Raising the level cap and creating a new material forced us to re-grind, something this community does not like to do.

I would have been happy grinding tv stones for the shield breaker set even if it's vr14.

AhPook_Is_Here

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , are there going to be VR16 crafting materials in Orsinium or will the gear progression be parallel to Craglorn, 2 VR ranks below the level of the content?

TequilaFire

Wow, it took 2 days to get to VR16, 1 skeever kill got me to VR15. lol

Conquers

TequilaFire wrote: »

Wow, it took 2 days to get to VR16, 1 skeever kill got me to VR15. lol

i don't think anyone would have a problem getting to the next VR, but IC is all about the grind for gear, so why make that grind obsolete - thus it is a good fact that ZoS did not raise VR again

Rosveen

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

Can I now pre-emptively start asking about VR raise in Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood DLC, whichever comes first?

Tyr

Rosveen wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We will not be raising the Veteran Rank for the Orsinium DLC.

Can I now pre-emptively start asking about VR raise in Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood DLC, whichever comes first?

Well a couple of ESo Live twitch broadcasts ago they had a lead writer say he was working on thieves guild stuff, so it looks like that's coming first. they confirmed that TG/DB will have story quests associated with it as well as full skill lines, so it's unclear if there will be major content pushes that would justify needed more gear progression.