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Invisibility needs a nerf BIG TIME in this game

Infinite12
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Chasing around a nighblade for 10 minutes who's visible for 1 second and is invisible for 10-15 seconds. You can't hit him. He just goes invisible CONSTANTLY. Doing aoe does nothing, he's just ALWAYS invisible. This is ridiculous. I can't heal myself but he can stay invisible for 10 minutes? That's broken.
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  • Jax.Brundvandt
    NB get overpowered IN COMPARISON with the rest of the classes... Nothing happened to them. Even improve.. Bye bye my vt sorc.
    Edited by Jax.Brundvandt on September 17, 2015 9:27PM
  • eNumbra
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    lol button
  • Jitterbug
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    By your description I would also guess he's a better player than you.
    No offense.
  • Infinite12
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    @Jitterbug how is he better than me? Because he can hit invisibility at will and stay invisible for 10 minutes? Not much skill there, I run with nightblades who say that the invisibility needs a nerf. I had a sorc with me spamming aoe's and he still just sat invisible for as long as he wanted.
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    My Characters
    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
  • yodased
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    The only thing that got hurt was your pride. Nightblades tend to attract troll players because they can do ecactly this.

    Only thing they like to do better than mess with a group is forever mark a solo guy.

    Just let him stay invis and move on if you cant find him. He didnt kill you and i promise there are more things to kill right around the corner. :)
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Infinite12
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    @yodased my pride didn't get hurt man. I've died before and I'll die again. I just though it was a little unfair that there was no way for us to get him out of stealth and he could stay in stealth for so long.
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    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
  • Levo18
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    I smell a L2P issue
  • nordickittyhawk
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    OK ok... SO THE NIGHTBLADE can go dissappear any time in the fight which is what there class is suppost to do (its like there bloody trade mark). They dont have a giant heal (unless vigor is around which is a heal over time mind you), they can no longer dodge roll forever, they cant blink or shield stack and you want to nerf this 3 second skill...

    Let me ask you something did you try, detect pot?, jabs?, caltrops?, flare? any Aoe skills? etc etc... NO?

    The my reaction to this post is

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo

  • Igglez
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    I'm one of these players and I must admit, IC makes it quite easy. Don't even need to always be spamming cloak, there's enough walls and stuff to stand behind to regen. Just need the cloak to get you there.

    But NBs had a hard time with heals before and an even harder time now.

    Try caltrops, the nb will need to overly spam cloak to even get out of the AOE and by then he will be very low on resource.
  • Infinite12
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    @nordickittyhawk If you took the time to read things you'd see that we did have a sorc with us that was spamming aoe's. I was out of detect pots and I don't have caltrops yet. I was trying bombard to snare him but that thing's really awkward because it shoots the arrows where your character is facing instead of where I'm aiming.

    @Igglez I know you guys don't have heals, it seems like no one does now. And I'm working on getting caltrops but the assault and support skill lines are taking forever to level up. I haven't been playing pvp for too long. I'm only rank 10 in the pvp ranks.
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    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
  • Jitterbug
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    @Jitterbug how is he better than me? Because he can hit invisibility at will and stay invisible for 10 minutes? Not much skill there, I run with nightblades who say that the invisibility needs a nerf. I had a sorc with me spamming aoe's and he still just sat invisible for as long as he wanted.

    I knew it would get taken af offense, but I really didn't mean it like that.
    It's just, that if he was able to do that for 10 minutes he played smarter than you. I'm not saying you're a stupid noob who needs to lp2, I'm sure you can hold your own. You just got outplayed by that guy. No shame in that. Adjust, and move on.
  • Artemiisia
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    its not like the nightblade, comes online here, and makes a thread about you OP, telling how op you were since he couldnt kill you either for 10 mins :)
  • Turelus
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    If only there was a potion which was a hard counter to this skill...
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  • DeanTheCat
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    Turelus wrote: »
    If only there was a potion which was a hard counter to this skill...

    Or a certain morph of a certain Mage's Guild ability...
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  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If only there was a potion which was a hard counter to this skill...

    Or a certain morph of a certain Mage's Guild ability...

    Or a Nightblade ability that marks a target and causes them to be seen even if they try to go invisible....
    Edited by Zorgon_The_Revenged on September 18, 2015 7:41AM
  • nordickittyhawk
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If only there was a potion which was a hard counter to this skill...

    Or a certain morph of a certain Mage's Guild ability...

    Or a Nightblade ability that marks a target and causes them to be seen even if they try to go invisible....

    or a skill to stop them going ivisable for about 15 seconds... if only
  • newtinmpls
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If only there was a potion which was a hard counter to this skill...

    Or a certain morph of a certain Mage's Guild ability...

    Or a Nightblade ability that marks a target and causes them to be seen even if they try to go invisible....

    or a skill to stop them going ivisable for about 15 seconds... if only

    Or AoE skills to pull them out of invisibility.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Infinite12
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    @Jitterbug the problem is that the cost for casting that dark cloak ability is so low that if you have high enough magic you can just spam it to your heart's content. There's no skill in that. And I love how people read one bits and pieces. I was out of pots, we WERE using Aoe's and I don't have caltrops yet. Lol you guys are funny.
    Edited by Infinite12 on September 18, 2015 3:55PM
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    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

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  • newtinmpls
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    I can't heal myself but he can stay invisible for 10 minutes? That's broken.

    I'm not clear on why you weren't using the mages light anti-stealth morph. I don't go to IC without either myself or someone in the group using it.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Infinite12
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    @newtinmpls is that a sorc ability? Because I'm a DK
    [GT: INFINITE12] XB1 I NA I DC PRIMARILY I
    My Characters
    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Radiant mage light is the first skill you get from the mages guild.
  • newtinmpls
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    Anyone can get it - it's not a class ability
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Infinite12
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    I'll look into it, thank you for the suggestion
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    My Characters
    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
  • Jitterbug
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    @Jitterbug the problem is that the cost for casting that dark cloak ability is so low that if you have high enough magic you can just spam it to your heart's content. There's no skill in that. And I love how people read one bits and pieces. I was out of pots, we WERE using Aoe's and I don't have caltrops yet. Lol you guys are funny.

    for a magic gank nb, no its not low - for everyone else its high. If you invest in getting better you will get better, and next time youll catch the ***
    Edited by Jitterbug on September 19, 2015 12:48AM
  • Khilseith
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    It's not really overpowered. Nightblades can't self heal very easily. Try fighting a Dragonknight that uses dragon blood every 2 seconds with no invisibility or self heal. Same thing with a templar.
    Edited by Khilseith on September 19, 2015 3:00PM
  • Infinite12
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    to be fair in pvp now it seems like only a templar can truly self heal. I'm a dragonknight and my self heals are terrible. GDB or Vigor, even rally. Self heals took a big hit all across the board except for templars
    [GT: INFINITE12] XB1 I NA I DC PRIMARILY I
    My Characters
    Ragnhild VR16 Nord DK I 2h/Bow (PVP) or 2h/Dual Wield (PVE)
    Nakothre VR7 Khajiit I Dual Wield/2H (PVP)
    Infinitesmo VR16 Imperial NB I 2h/Bow (PVP)

    Tip: If you don't like funerals don't kick sand in a ninja's face
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