Regarding the accusation of zerging.

ishilb14_ESO

1. Look at the Target name
2. Count the number of AD players
3. Now recall how this scene is what you see every time

Satiar

Rylana wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

We fight them even numbers on an almost daily basis lately. Thats the group we build to fight against. 20v20 is pretty standard in our fights, give or take 3-4 on either side.

Credit to you guys, it's been good fights, some of the toughest we've had in the new patch. But I've never had to defend a keep against you, or gotten to push you when you didn't have Emp.

Zaz wasnt there tonight, hes gone for the next three days.

Emp buffs are pretty sweet .

It's the nature of our playtime, by the time you get on you have emp, scrolls, and all the adjoining buffs. Such is life in Cyrodil, it's a 24 hour zone.

Rylana

Satiar wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

We fight them even numbers on an almost daily basis lately. Thats the group we build to fight against. 20v20 is pretty standard in our fights, give or take 3-4 on either side.

Credit to you guys, it's been good fights, some of the toughest we've had in the new patch. But I've never had to defend a keep against you, or gotten to push you when you didn't have Emp.

Zaz wasnt there tonight, hes gone for the next three days.

Emp buffs are pretty sweet .

It's the nature of our playtime, by the time you get on you have emp, scrolls, and all the adjoining buffs. Such is life in Cyrodil, it's a 24 hour zone.

wasnt even us that pushed the scrolls this time afaik, we capped emp ring and went to another campaign today. (dethrone on haderus, then straight fighting on azuras) the other reds got very greedy and we were a little mad at that >_> but what can ya do

manny254

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was a huge error. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

Lava_Croft

Oh sorry for the draft, I think I forgot to close the door while grabbing some freshly roasted street cat popcorn.

Rylana

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was not. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

You have to understand the politics of EP on trueflame to understand why this was literally the only call we could make. When an AD zerg of that size is gunning from south, and a DC organized group the caliber of VE is pushed from North/West, we have to have some semblance of "the others" support.

All the other EP care about is playing the map in straight lines from the gates, and worrying about the scrolls. They seem to forget how the new points system works, and will literally abandon the 20 of us to deal with the entire pop of AD and DC to flail at kings while those gates are open.

Our only option was to attempt to close the gates for the time being just to get SWP to do something OTHER than worry about chim while AD couldnt even pick it up yet, Mnem was still in transit south. And honestly, not even I expected the sheer volume of AD that pushed off that wall when we arrived.

Its just a classic example of being the only raid on the field that can even accomplish an objective in that environment, having to pull double duty. Not a damn thing we could do so we took a stab, and it didnt go according to plan.

manny254

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was not. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

You have to understand the politics of EP on trueflame to understand why this was literally the only call we could make. When an AD zerg of that size is gunning from south, and a DC organized group the caliber of VE is pushed from North/West, we have to have some semblance of "the others" support.

All the other EP care about is playing the map in straight lines from the gates, and worrying about the scrolls. They seem to forget how the new points system works, and will literally abandon the 20 of us to deal with the entire pop of AD and DC to flail at kings while those gates are open.

Our only option was to attempt to close the gates for the time being just to get SWP to do something OTHER than worry about chim while AD couldnt even pick it up yet, Mnem was still in transit south. And honestly, not even I expected the sheer volume of AD that pushed off that wall when we arrived.

To be quite frank I would think that SWP actually choose the better tactical move in this particular scenario. Given what you said that Zazeer was not online, and will not be for some time. You would have caused VE to fight AD much sooner. Also frankly Zazeer will be crowned as soon as everyone goes to bed. Making holding on the emperor ship even more pointless while he is gone.

Rylana

manny254 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was not. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

You have to understand the politics of EP on trueflame to understand why this was literally the only call we could make. When an AD zerg of that size is gunning from south, and a DC organized group the caliber of VE is pushed from North/West, we have to have some semblance of "the others" support.

All the other EP care about is playing the map in straight lines from the gates, and worrying about the scrolls. They seem to forget how the new points system works, and will literally abandon the 20 of us to deal with the entire pop of AD and DC to flail at kings while those gates are open.

Our only option was to attempt to close the gates for the time being just to get SWP to do something OTHER than worry about chim while AD couldnt even pick it up yet, Mnem was still in transit south. And honestly, not even I expected the sheer volume of AD that pushed off that wall when we arrived.

To be quite frank I would think that SWP actually choose the better tactical move in this particular scenario. Given what you said that Zazeer was not online, and will not be for some time. You would have caused VE to fight AD much sooner. Also frankly Zazeer will be crowned as soon as everyone goes to bed. Making holding on the emperor ship even more pointless while he is gone.

Yeah because you know, AD emp + gatecamping for the next several hours isnt going to be a problem thats even worse or anything.

vortexman11

manny254 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was not. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

You have to understand the politics of EP on trueflame to understand why this was literally the only call we could make. When an AD zerg of that size is gunning from south, and a DC organized group the caliber of VE is pushed from North/West, we have to have some semblance of "the others" support.

All the other EP care about is playing the map in straight lines from the gates, and worrying about the scrolls. They seem to forget how the new points system works, and will literally abandon the 20 of us to deal with the entire pop of AD and DC to flail at kings while those gates are open.

Our only option was to attempt to close the gates for the time being just to get SWP to do something OTHER than worry about chim while AD couldnt even pick it up yet, Mnem was still in transit south. And honestly, not even I expected the sheer volume of AD that pushed off that wall when we arrived.

To be quite frank I would think that SWP actually choose the better tactical move in this particular scenario. Given what you said that Zazeer was not online, and will not be for some time. You would have caused VE to fight AD much sooner. Also frankly Zazeer will be crowned as soon as everyone goes to bed. Making holding on the emperor ship even more pointless while he is gone.

Judging by the zero DC counter seige on Chalman and Aleswell as AD takes them, I don't think VE had intentions of fighting you anyways.

Recremen

Was GoS running tonight? I led a group of 10 Deci to take back some of our home keeps, and we had a boatload of EP (I think SWP?) for Bloodmayne and Faregyl but squat for Black Boot and Alessia. :-( Had to go back to the city to keep from contributing to the 500+ member AD zerg.

Zheg

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you heard the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

manny254

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

There where certainly more than 3 ep pugs in the keep. The second time we placed siege on the farm side, and you where smart enough to go and fight the blue siege on the other side. While you where gone a group 12-15 ep pushed us and got wiped on the stairs around the area.

Regarding this particular move as a critical error may be me overstepping it, but the push at Arrius was not. You pushed a scroll in transit, and where surprised when there was more AD than just us around it. You could of as I said pushed BRK before we could react. In that given situation BRK was a better emperor keep for you to hold on with. In that time short time period it looked like VE stopped to take Ash. That was the key time frame that you had to break out, but instead you went to fight us at Arrius. Once you engaged and it was clear you could not win you continued to fight. It would have been a better tactical move to wipe and quickly hit something else.

You have to understand the politics of EP on trueflame to understand why this was literally the only call we could make. When an AD zerg of that size is gunning from south, and a DC organized group the caliber of VE is pushed from North/West, we have to have some semblance of "the others" support.

All the other EP care about is playing the map in straight lines from the gates, and worrying about the scrolls. They seem to forget how the new points system works, and will literally abandon the 20 of us to deal with the entire pop of AD and DC to flail at kings while those gates are open.

Our only option was to attempt to close the gates for the time being just to get SWP to do something OTHER than worry about chim while AD couldnt even pick it up yet, Mnem was still in transit south. And honestly, not even I expected the sheer volume of AD that pushed off that wall when we arrived.

To be quite frank I would think that SWP actually choose the better tactical move in this particular scenario. Given what you said that Zazeer was not online, and will not be for some time. You would have caused VE to fight AD much sooner. Also frankly Zazeer will be crowned as soon as everyone goes to bed. Making holding on the emperor ship even more pointless while he is gone.

Yeah because you know, AD emp + gatecamping for the next several hours isnt going to be a problem thats even worse or anything.

Considering EP has all 3 relic keeps they would have some huge problems if they where getting gate camped. Furthermore its really funny that you bring this up after we caught you camping the AD sewer spawn lastnight.

Rylana

Zheg wrote: »

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you hear the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

I just wish you guys would come depose yellow sometime instead of just screwing with us, and then leaving the yellow zerg to its whims.

Or ya know, defend the blue keeps you took from us.

Its kinda one sided, guesting over and basically deposing red to let yellow crown emp. Kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? (especially now that youve basically enabled AD to gatecamp DC again after we put a stop to that twice)

Crown

Rylana wrote: »

Yeah because you know, AD emp + gatecamping for the next several hours isnt going to be a problem thats even worse or anything.

@Rylana As I responded last time you brought this up, I challenge you to find one person who has witnessed me gate camp. Opening a gate to get a scroll is not camping. If you're going to make things up, keep it to discussions with @manny254

manny254

Crown wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Yeah because you know, AD emp + gatecamping for the next several hours isnt going to be a problem thats even worse or anything.

@Rylana As I responded last time you brought this up, I challenge you to find one person who has witnessed me gate camp. Opening a gate to get a scroll is not camping. If you're going to make things up, keep it to discussions with @manny254

He certainly has no problem doing that.

Zheg

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you hear the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

I just wish you guys would come depose yellow sometime instead of just screwing with us, and then leaving the yellow zerg to its whims.

Or ya know, defend the blue keeps you took from us.

Its kinda one sided, guesting over and basically deposing red to let yellow crown emp. Kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? (especially now that youve basically enabled AD to gatecamp DC again after we put a stop to that twice)

Harumph. I'm homed on Trueflame thank you (I mostly just wanted to say harumph) - no guesting here. A lot of guilds (maybe all of the major ones) are still waiting to see where people end up after the gear grind is finished, and I'd estimate this will settle in the next few weeks. Pop caps and long queues are another consideration people are trying to send out feelers for before they commit their entire guild to a campaign.

To be fair, there really isn't a blue presence on the map if we aren't there right now, and we operate in NA mostly and have jobs/school/etc. so we need to go to bed at some point. As for the emp stuff, personally I could care less who's emp so long as it's a good fight. I'm sure it can feel like EP is being ganged up on, but the map starts red so dethroning needs to be the objective. Take it as a compliment that people are seeking fights with GoS and leave it at that. It makes me scratch my head to see the kinds of posts in these threads when every night I walk away thinking hell, that was a ton of fun.

Recremen

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you hear the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

I just wish you guys would come depose yellow sometime instead of just screwing with us, and then leaving the yellow zerg to its whims.

Or ya know, defend the blue keeps you took from us.

Its kinda one sided, guesting over and basically deposing red to let yellow crown emp. Kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? (especially now that youve basically enabled AD to gatecamp DC again after we put a stop to that twice)

Harumph. I'm homed on Trueflame thank you (I mostly just wanted to say harumph) - no guesting here. A lot of guilds (maybe all of the major ones) are still waiting to see where people end up after the gear grind is finished, and I'd estimate this will settle in the next few weeks. Pop caps and long queues are another consideration people are trying to send out feelers for before they commit their entire guild to a campaign.

To be fair, there really isn't a blue presence on the map if we aren't there right now, and we operate in NA mostly and have jobs/school/etc. so we need to go to bed at some point. As for the emp stuff, personally I could care less who's emp so long as it's a good fight. I'm sure it can feel like EP is being ganged up on, but the map starts red so dethroning needs to be the objective. Take it as a compliment that people are seeking fights with GoS and leave it at that.

Please come home in Trueflame for a spell one your current campaign ends (unless it's Azura's). I believe it holds the most hope for a hardcore PvP server, assuming we can keep one faction from owning the whole map at once, which only encourages flocks of PvEers to suddenly show up and bring long queues with them.

Rylana

Zheg wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you hear the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

I just wish you guys would come depose yellow sometime instead of just screwing with us, and then leaving the yellow zerg to its whims.

Or ya know, defend the blue keeps you took from us.

Its kinda one sided, guesting over and basically deposing red to let yellow crown emp. Kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? (especially now that youve basically enabled AD to gatecamp DC again after we put a stop to that twice)

Harumph. I'm homed on Trueflame thank you (I mostly just wanted to say harumph) - no guesting here. A lot of guilds (maybe all of the major ones) are still waiting to see where people end up after the gear grind is finished, and I'd estimate this will settle in the next few weeks. Pop caps and long queues are another consideration people are trying to send out feelers for before they commit their entire guild to a campaign.

To be fair, there really isn't a blue presence on the map if we aren't there right now, and we operate in NA mostly and have jobs/school/etc. so we need to go to bed at some point. As for the emp stuff, personally I could care less who's emp so long as it's a good fight. I'm sure it can feel like EP is being ganged up on, but the map starts red so dethroning needs to be the objective. Take it as a compliment that people are seeking fights with GoS and leave it at that. It makes me scratch my head to see the kinds of posts in these threads when every night I walk away thinking hell, that was a ton of fun.

Eh the drama isnt really about VE or anything, we legit appreciate the fights.

The drama is mostly cause of the yellows running their mouths at us that never come out of the woodwork until you are there, then they spike the football like they accomplished something. (we guested to both haderus and azuras today looking for fights because that yellow zerg was avoiding us all day long, they wouldnt come out to fight at all)

Id rather fight you guys all day if im honest. At least for those fights I gotta slot my negate and other group skills. For the yellows on Trueflame its kinda a lot of numbers crying and constant oneupsmanship arguing.


That being said, I know a blue guild is homing Trueflame next week, so the campaign should become more three-way balanced soon.

Winnamine

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I swear, watching these threads is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not meant to be entertainment, but me thinks we're all starting to take ourselves a bit too seriously. The fights on trueflame are amazeballs, even if they're difficult/stacked against whoever, or maybe because of it. A month ago we would have 30 banners on flags, people doing /sitchair, and choice words galore in TS whenever you hear the meteor artillery fire begin. If every night of pvp is like the past few, I'll be a happy camper.

I just wish you guys would come depose yellow sometime instead of just screwing with us, and then leaving the yellow zerg to its whims.

Or ya know, defend the blue keeps you took from us.

Its kinda one sided, guesting over and basically deposing red to let yellow crown emp. Kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? (especially now that youve basically enabled AD to gatecamp DC again after we put a stop to that twice)

Except, when I got on tonight, EP had all the DC keeps, not AD.

Alucardo

DC in BWB be like

Winnamine

Alucardo wrote: »

DC in BWB be like

Wrong thread?

Minnesinger

True Flame seem to be the campaign to play. I don´t quite get why they bother accuse others of doing anything as when I go there every keep and resource is taken by EP. They having always higher pop than others. Looks like there is certainly room for more AD/ DC. Get your a***s there

I am not surprised to see tells. That is exactly what I read in the Forums. I almost feel sorry for EP because they have to drag this kinda bs with them but their choice.

RinaldoGandolphi

Im not sure accusing anyone of zerging is fair as ZOS has changed the meta to Zerg or go home, because they changed.....ya know what...forget it...

Minno

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Im not sure accusing anyone of zerging is fair as ZOS has changed the meta to Zerg or go home, because they changed.....ya know what...forget it...

ZOS is in a weird position to provide an RPG element game with action packed pvp for a target audience that is coming from a game franchise where you play by yourself however you want to play.

Crown

Another point for @Rylana (and everyone else). If you're going to whisper people, it's common courtesy to set yourself online so that people can respond to you - and not make another debacle on the forums.

OdinForge

Crown wrote: »

See below:

Yall gotta stop crying to each other, about who zergs what. The back and forth is beyond petty, on both sides.

It's just a game, open world AvA you cannot guarantee numbers on either side. You cannot predict what faction is going to show up with pugs, other guilds whatever.

Publius_Scipio

We witnessed FENGRUSH wearing his Pumping Iron t-shirt last night take on a much more numerous EP force. FENGRUSH had Ezareth-Ali and some guy Yoyuji in his group (which we all know to mean that FENGRUSH went up against the EP with one BICEP tied behind his back hahahahaha).

But you didn't see him complaining like he had p!ss soaked corn flakes. As a matter of fact he welcomed the battle against the bum EP and was making fun of them for having low DPS because they stacked a ton of healers in their zerg.

I want everyone to follow the official FENGRUSH twitch channel and for those who attend this thing called twitch con, to meet FENGRUSH live and in person, shake his hand, and take a selfie with his BICEPS.

This AD/Crown vs Rylana/Guild of Sissies has given me and the devs indigestion.

OFFICIAL FENGRUSH TWITCH CHANNEL!!! The only player-run ESO twitch channel that matters!

OdinForge

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

We witnessed FENGRUSH wearing his Pumping Iron t-shirt last night take on a much more numerous EP force. FENGRUSH had Ezareth-Ali and some guy Yoyuji in his group (which we all know to mean that FENGRUSH went up against the EP with one BICEP tied behind his back hahahahaha).

But you didn't see him complaining like he had p!ss soaked corn flakes. As a matter of fact he welcomed the battle against the bum EP and was making fun of them for having low DPS because they stacked a ton of healers in their zerg.

I want everyone to follow the official FENGRUSH twitch channel and for those who attend this thing called twitch con, to meet FENGRUSH live and in person, shake his hand, and take a selfie with his BICEPS.

This AD/Crown vs Rylana/Guild of Sissies has given me and the devs indigestion.

OFFICIAL FENGRUSH TWITCH CHANNEL!!! The only player-run ESO twitch channel that matters!

Damn dude..

Anazasi

I'm sorry, but I seem to be missing something. I thought this was A v A v A open world war/ combat game. At what point did someone try and inject a morality of fare play? No alliance can control what other alliances do. No one player can control any other player aside from those in there group while group leader. This is war there are no rules aside from the limitations the game places on us and even then players find ways to exploit those mechanics.

So seriously shut up with this zergging nonsense, you are ruining my game emersion and frankly you sound like a bunch of babies crying over who lost to who because they had more players than you. Please, please take your toys and go somewhere else this sand box belongs to mean bully's who have more friends than you.

Crown

OdinForge wrote: »

It's just a game, open world AvA you cannot guarantee numbers on either side. You cannot predict what faction is going to show up with pugs, other guilds whatever.

@OdinForge In this particular case, EP were down to their last emp keep. DC had Ash/Aleswell, and AD had Roe/Alessia/BRK. In ANY case where an emperor is down to his/her last emp keep, it's easy to predict that just about every single person on the map will go to the keep. There will be some who think to go for scrolls, or try to cut off transit for reinforcements / run back after resurrecting (in this case Arrius), though 80+ % of both factions *should* be at the last emp keep.

It seems that almost everyone has forgotten the epic lag fights of BRK when @Methuselah was down to his last emp keep, and how many of us walked away from them so as not to contribute to / perpetuate the lag.