Regarding the accusation of zerging.

Crown

See below:

Crown

10 People in group = a zerg.

What are you then?

Antirob

but i thought there were 70 ad /s

Satiar

Personally, I feel all accusations of zerging just take away from the very important task of battle rezzing.

Domander

Oh, I see you were in the 3rd raid

Yonkit

I still contend that I play solo.

Antirob

I personally accept out buff server gaurdians.

Dyride

So is the fight over or can it continue without Emperor plus scroll buffs?

manny254

Aneurysm inc.

Rylana

Domander wrote: »

Oh, I see you were in the 3rd raid

I see that too. This dude is blind as hell. He really thinks his raidframe encompasses the entirely of the zergball he leads.

Ill tell ya tho, they were worth almost 9k ap on that flag when they all stacked, good god.

Lava_Croft

Americans always better at everything than us Europeans. Even at drama.

ishilb14_ESO

pretty sure crown keeps his party small and has the rest of his guild run in another group because here ya go

vortexman11

Rylana never said in your group.

Crown

The only other group of AD was Hello Kitty, led by Lunamarie. You guys really need to get your delusions in check...

Domander

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Don't worry guys! there's only 10 lol

This was like half of em, not that I care.

I'm glad there's lots of players out right now.

vortexman11

Crown wrote: »

The only other group of AD was Hello Kitty, led by Lunamarie. You guys really need to get your delusions in check...

And together. You guys form a zerg just like EP and like DC.

ishilb14_ESO

Crown wrote: »

The only other group of AD was Hello Kitty, led by Lunamarie. You guys really need to get your delusions in check...

basically an admission you guys follow each other around, which makes the both of you part of the AD zerg

manny254

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack us because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. An objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not there.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Crown

Lets see.. the last emp keep, and the knowledge that showing up there will *** @Rylana off. Are you surprised that everyone from both factions ended up there?

Rylana

vortexman11 wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

The only other group of AD was Hello Kitty, led by Lunamarie. You guys really need to get your delusions in check...

And together. You guys form a zerg just like EP and like DC.

He doesnt even include the yellow randoms. My last ditch effort proxdet hit +42 on that backflag of chalman. I didnt just pull 40 out of my rear. Best part of it all is not a one of them showed up until VE arrived.

manny254

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

The only other group of AD was Hello Kitty, led by Lunamarie. You guys really need to get your delusions in check...

basically an admission you guys follow each other around, which makes the both of you part of the AD zerg

Notice there was a scroll in the keep. What a surprise that AD showed up for a scroll. Like idk ep showing for an emp keep?

Crown

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. Our 9 (we lost one since the last fight to sleep) just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

Even if we're only half their strength (or less), you need to strategize on how to distribute your forces and not just ignore one or the other. That's what lost it for you.

Yonkit

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

Activating VE raid 4.

vortexman11

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Rylana

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

We fight them even numbers on an almost daily basis lately. Thats the group we build to fight against. 20v20 is pretty standard in our fights, give or take 3-4 on either side.

manny254

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

Takllin

vortexman11

manny254 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Oh nice you got a screen shot of the first critical error you made tonight. Your arrogance caused you to bring your whole group to attack use because you knew we would only have a small group. What happened though? Oh yeah we had a scroll. an objective that generally brings people in your alliance to you. Hello kitty came to support the scroll. If you where not arrogant you would have taken BRK while you knew we where not their.

In case you wanted to know your second critical failure. You sent all the forces in Chalman to push a group of 10 off of it, but the keep flagged. You where unable to get a quick wipe despite having probably at least 3 times the numbers. Meanwhile blue set up siege on the other side. After the keep flagged from this it never unflaged.

Not our fault your arrogance caused you to loose. Continue to qq instead of learning from your loss.

Again with the 3 times your numbers BS, because you were obviously the only 10 AD on that front door! And there were obviously 30+ EP that pushed out to wipe you!

Got it on shadow play if you want it.

You can post it, I really don't mind, and I never said we didn't outnumber you, but when you say stuff like 3 times your numbers that's what bothers me as we'd be lucky if there was 30 EP in the keep at all.

I don't care if you say we outnumber you, I don't care if you say you're better than us, I do care if you think we're some stupid TKO like zerg that runs around with multiple raids. The other EP guild on the campaign doesn't even defend emp keeps with us, just two or three EP pugs and GoS.

Even Crown admitted you guys wiped to VE with your group of 10, so do you really think it would make sense to split our group (which was outnumbered by the combined amount of AD and DC at that keep) to fight both you and VE at the same time? That would end in a wipe on both ends and no defenders left at the keep. Thats a response to your critical error thing.

Rylana

Crown wrote: »

Even if we're only half their strength (or less), you need to strategize on how to distribute your forces and not just ignore one or the other. That's what lost it for you.

Yeah, distribute forces, when it takes pretty much all of us to beat them if we do at all. Today we had 22 at our peak, more or less even numbers. Beat them full wipe once, recovered wipe once, and they beat us full wipe twice. Very even fight.

Perhaps if we had you know, a whole extra faction to hold their entire group in check while we fought the AD horde, it would be possible.

As it stands, every day is GoS vs VE with Rage/HK/a million and one AD pugs vs the rest of EP.

Cant be everywhere. But it still amuses me how you guys never come out "in force" until theyve shown up. Why is that? Like at most you show up by yourself or just trolling around in the sewers. You dont come out for realsies unless VE already has us pinned to a prolonged fight with them

Its not a very good platform to make a case for yourself. As has been noted, we could disengage VE and come down and deal with you, judging by your own statement we could do so pretty easily, but that leaves SWP who cant even handle you to deal with VE whom you said you have no real chance of beating so effectively we would lose in that scenario even faster.

Tell me again the solution.

Satiar

Rylana wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

We fight them even numbers on an almost daily basis lately. Thats the group we build to fight against. 20v20 is pretty standard in our fights, give or take 3-4 on either side.

Credit to you guys, it's been good fights, some of the toughest we've had in the new patch. But I've never had to defend a keep against you, or gotten to push you when you didn't have Emp.

Rylana

Satiar wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Incidentally, @Rylana I now see why you said that Vehemence are a bigger threat than us. We just wiped to their 20 ish and I can honestly say that I don't think we had a chance to win that. Makes me want to recruit more and fight them with even numbers.

We fight them even numbers on an almost daily basis lately. Thats the group we build to fight against. 20v20 is pretty standard in our fights, give or take 3-4 on either side.

Credit to you guys, it's been good fights, some of the toughest we've had in the new patch. But I've never had to defend a keep against you, or gotten to push you when you didn't have Emp.

Zaz wasnt there tonight, hes gone for the next three days.