[Build] Update 2.1 - Stamina DK Tank/DPS for PvP & PvE!

jim_mau

A less technical question, since IC launched, DSA has been pretty lonely, as far as loot drops, content lvl and novelty. As with most games, players flee to new content and old gets left a ghost town.

Kinda reminds me of Icecrown Citadel and the Argent Dawn Jousting tournament.

the question: what alternatives could there be build-wise, (wether its skill change or equipment change) in the case of not being able to acquiere the master´s sword? Ive been playing the build and it is formidable, with my own playstile tweaks, but in tank mode im losing dat heal... although running in with rally helps to compensate a bit

Lefty_Lucy

jim_mau wrote: »

A less technical question, since IC launched, DSA has been pretty lonely, as far as loot drops, content lvl and novelty. As with most games, players flee to new content and old gets left a ghost town.

Kinda reminds me of Icecrown Citadel and the Argent Dawn Jousting tournament.

the question: what alternatives could there be build-wise, (wether its skill change or equipment change) in the case of not being able to acquiere the master´s sword? Ive been playing the build and it is formidable, with my own playstile tweaks, but in tank mode im losing dat heal... although running in with rally helps to compensate a bit

Good question, and good point! I didnt think about the increase in difficulty of obtaining the masters sword in this update.

I suggest getting 3 pieces of the new Agility set. 2x Rings, 1x Mace (1h), and 1x Maul (2h)

belly2504

Firstly love the video mate.

I am leveling my DK in full heavy always have I just love it what stats should I be looking for in my armor until I level up I am only just VR3 what would be a good armor set to level in I don't have access to the higher sets at the moment.

sicc

How do you think 5 black rose, 3 nights silence, 2 potentates, 2 shadow walker will perform? Keep up the good work lefty wer all appreciate it!

ZeFeZ

What other gear would you suggest instead of the Dungeon Gear?

Lefty_Lucy

sicc wrote: »

How do you think 5 black rose, 3 nights silence, 2 potentates, 2 shadow walker will perform? Keep up the good work lefty wer all appreciate it!

I think that's good! I personally would like to keep Malubeth in there for the free damage and healing, but Night's Silence is one of my top recommended alternatives.

ZeFeZ wrote: »

What other gear would you suggest instead of the Dungeon Gear?

Night's Silence! ^^

belly2504 wrote: »

Firstly love the video mate.

I am leveling my DK in full heavy always have I just love it what stats should I be looking for in my armor until I level up I am only just VR3 what would be a good armor set to level in I don't have access to the higher sets at the moment.

I would pick up 5/5 Hunding's Rage and the rest should be Night's Silence.

B1GREDMONSTER

How effective would the werewolf be with this build I know it would have high damage but would it be hard to maintain full health without much mana to use the healing magic or would the set bonuses be sufficient to maintain a good amount of health.

Lefty_Lucy

B1GREDMONSTER wrote: »

How effective would the werewolf be with this build I know it would have high damage but would it be hard to maintain full health without much mana to use the healing magic or would the set bonuses be sufficient to maintain a good amount of health.

I find that it is harder to maintain stamina in Werewolf actually. This build is very tanky so staying alive isn't too bad in Werewolf. The only problem is the low stamina sustain, so you end up having to spam heavy attacks which essentially ends up killing you in the long run.

ZeFeZ

So should I focus on Black Rose first and if that isn't possible just go for Night's Silence?

Lefty_Lucy

ZeFeZ wrote: »

So should I focus on Black Rose first and if that isn't possible just go for Night's Silence?

Yeah, shoot for black rose. But hundings rage and nights silence are both good alternatives. If you have a 5 piece open I would use hundings. If you have up to 4 open, then nights silence.

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OmniDevil

Lefty_Lucy wrote: »

Yeah, shoot for black rose. But hundings rage and nights silence are both good alternatives. If you have a 5 piece open I would use hundings. If you have up to 4 open, then nights silence.

I'll second this. I crafted these two sets yesterday and haven't been doing extremely well with it.

ZeFeZ

OmniDevil wrote: »

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Lefty_Lucy wrote: »

Yeah, shoot for black rose. But hundings rage and nights silence are both good alternatives. If you have a 5 piece open I would use hundings. If you have up to 4 open, then nights silence.

I'll second this. I crafted these two sets yesterday and haven't been doing extremely well with it.

So you also recommon Black Rose?

OmniDevil

ZeFeZ wrote: »

So you also recommon Black Rose?

I don't have Blackrose yet. In fact, I've given up on IC PvP (pretty much most IC content). My comment was in relation to the Hundings Rage/Nights Silence crafted gear. Running that gear has made resource management, combined with drinks, so much better.

AudioVortex

Just about to give a very similar build a go in IC. My gear is all over the place however as I can't seem to get any decent jewelry sets from grinding those vet levels. Will just work towards that black rose!

What makes you go with off dps rather than dual S&B and full tanky tank?

slumber_sandb16_ESO

Deadly Fortress stopped me from quitting ESO. Now having a blast with my tank even if I still have some distance to go until I have all my gear. Tinkering with the build to make it fit me better. 10/10

Jonnyaces

Hey bookmarked your video to watch later, quick question would this build still count well enough for redguard and with dual wielding instead of 2handed? Or is Imperial and/or 2handed essential to the build?

Scorpio_Alik'ri

Awesome video lefty but I have a question. I'm currently midway through VR1 as a dragonknight after playing for 3 months because I'm usually a slow learner and new to mmo's. I usually quest and the xp gained isn't as great as grinding dungeons so would I be able to output a similar amount of damage/physical mitigation with a VR5-VR8 character? To me VR16 seems like a long way away from me unless I grind like crazy.

Tomato

What are your thoughts on the following setup?

Helm - Dreugh King set (Heavy)
Shoulders- Dreugh King set (Heavy)
Chest - Willows Path - Infused (Medium)
Legs - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Arms - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Waist - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Feet - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)

Necklace - Dreugh King set with weapon damage enchant
Rings x2 - Agility set with weapon damage enchant

2H - Agility set
DW - 1H sword x2 Agility set

Werewolf

Mundus stone - Warrior

Food for tri-stats


Possibly down the road:

Molag Kena Helm / Shoulders
Swap necklace out for Shadow walker to get reduce duration on potions

Tomato

Or maybe running all heavy?

ZeFeZ

OmniDevil wrote: »

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Lefty_Lucy wrote: »

Yeah, shoot for black rose. But hundings rage and nights silence are both good alternatives. If you have a 5 piece open I would use hundings. If you have up to 4 open, then nights silence.

I'll second this. I crafted these two sets yesterday and haven't been doing extremely well with it.

Than I guess 5 Hundings Rage Heavy Right? and 2 Night Silince Medium?

Lefty_Lucy

AudioVortex wrote: »

What makes you go with off dps rather than dual S&B and full tanky tank?

It just kinda flows well with my playstyle. I'm loving the high DPS plus high survival that this build offers.

Jonnyaces wrote: »

Hey bookmarked your video to watch later, quick question would this build still count well enough for redguard and with dual wielding instead of 2handed? Or is Imperial and/or 2handed essential to the build?

Redguard is a great race for this build. I personally like to keep 2H because I like Rally. If I were to use dual wield, I would go 2H + Dual Wield.

Scorpio_Alik'ri wrote: »

Awesome video lefty but I have a question. I'm currently midway through VR1 as a dragonknight after playing for 3 months because I'm usually a slow learner and new to mmo's. I usually quest and the xp gained isn't as great as grinding dungeons so would I be able to output a similar amount of damage/physical mitigation with a VR5-VR8 character? To me VR16 seems like a long way away from me unless I grind like crazy.

As mid-Veteran level character, you will lack some pretty significant damage, but your tankiness should be pretty similar, mainly because of the nice battle leveling that you get in PVP now.

Swiift wrote: »

What are your thoughts on the following setup?

Helm - Dreugh King set (Heavy)
Shoulders- Dreugh King set (Heavy)
Chest - Willows Path - Infused (Medium)
Legs - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Arms - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Waist - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)
Feet - Willows Path - Divines (Medium)

Necklace - Dreugh King set with weapon damage enchant
Rings x2 - Agility set with weapon damage enchant

2H - Agility set
DW - 1H sword x2 Agility set

Werewolf

Mundus stone - Warrior

Food for tri-stats


Possibly down the road:

Molag Kena Helm / Shoulders
Swap necklace out for Shadow walker to get reduce duration on potions

I'm not a big fan of the 2, 3 and 4-piece item sets on Willows Path. I think you could do better. You could replace Willows Path with Hundings Rage (crafted set), and you could play with both heavy and medium on Hundings. Both would work really well.

Also, you want Infused on your Legs as well. Other than that, you should be good!

Alexandrious

Can you honestly PVE tank for a group using this build? What do you do to get AoE threat?

fishermanyellow

Is werewolf crucial to this build? Or can it be just as effective without it?

Legedric

fishermanyellow wrote: »

Is werewolf crucial to this build? Or can it be just as effective without it?

I am using Vampire with this build as I like the high mobility coming from the Vampire skill line especially whiel stealthing around the IC.
However, you should also be fine going "human".

Alexandrious

Legedric wrote: »

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fishermanyellow wrote: »

Is werewolf crucial to this build? Or can it be just as effective without it?

I am using Vampire with this build as I like the high mobility coming from the Vampire skill line especially whiel stealthing around the IC.
However, you should also be fine going "human".

Is being a vampire still a high benefit spite any changes from now to a year ago? Like any reason to stay human or go werewolf over being a vamp? Cuz I still see so many vamps just spamming vamp abilities in pvp.

Alexandrious

Sighs...hate this forum. double posted by accident.

Legedric

Well, on the one hand you now need to have at least one ability slotted to benefit from the regeneration passive, which you should anyway as most players are using Vampire for Bat Swarm or Mist Form.

On the other hand they reduced the flame damage increase you receive from 50 to 40 and now down to 25% so the downside is pretty low right now.
However, it's still just a thing about personal preference wether you go human, werewolf or vampire depending on your individual playstyle.

Alexandrious

Legedric wrote: »

Well, on the one hand you now need to have at least one ability slotted to benefit from the regeneration passive, which you should anyway as most players are using Vampire for Bat Swarm or Mist Form.

On the other hand they reduced the flame damage increase you receive from 50 to 40 and now down to 25% so the downside is pretty low right now.
However, it's still just a thing about personal preference wether you go human, werewolf or vampire depending on your individual playstyle.

And spite the large health regen reduction, you still find Vampire viable for a tank?

Legedric

Well to be honest I don't care much about health regen. I have Vigor and Rally on my bars to keep me up in PvP so health regen isn't a big deal anyway.