The imbalances in PvP

MaxwellC

Mr_Koh wrote: »

@MaxwellCrystal you're all talk. People like you ruin the game by coming on the forums and giving the devs your ignorance that they make decisions off of. Would you like to see my rotations little boy?

Lol your arrogance knows no bounds I see and it's funny how you refer to me as "little boy" when your mentality is that of an child, a perfect example is how quickly you lost your temper when someone questions your abilities. That in its-self shows me all I need to know.

I for one know what I'm talking about based on debates that actually revolved around Thinking, something that is definitely too hard for you. You come to forums crying and moaning that a DK killed you with wrecking blow and go on to cry about how he/she out DPS'd you in full heavy; the best part of all of this is the fact you try to relate battle roar (which is activated by an ultimate) to how OP the DK is. You didn't even take into account that said DK could've been using corrosive armor which gives 100% armor penetration, you slap on a maul with that and you have 120% penetration yet you ignored all of that.

Maybe next time you make a troll post crying about how badly you got wrecked by a player who out smarted/out played you with their better rotations, you should first consider how you died then build around that.

To sum up what I'm saying, try to improve on your cognitive brain function a bit more before jumping to conclusions and making a post about it because it just makes you look completely asinine.

MaxwellC

Just read my post and jeez I'm sorry I'll apply some aloe vera on those burn marks later mate.

Mr_Koh

@MaxwellCrystal look dude you wanna face me or not so we can settle this like gamers. You're talking soo much trash just let us 1v1. your talk gets bigger and bigger but yet you never answer if you want to 1v1.

i've already proved my point multiple times and now you've gotten to the point where you're writing the same post just in different ways. you're pathetic and please let me show you how pathetic you are in game. It would be my pleasure. If you're so confident you shouldn't reject this offer.

MaxwellC

@Mr_Koh Lol you never asked for a 1v1 you just stated that you're better than me which obviously you're far from it. Honestly I can say right now I don't need to 1v1 because why bother with someone as immature as you? My talk didn't get bigger you just started huffing and puffing because I clearly pointed out the obvious i.e. that you need better rotation and need to stop whining about getting wrecked.

You call me pathetic but have you seen your previous posts? I mean come on now that's pathetic, you throwing a tantrum over someone telling you that you need to learn to play better, now that's truly pathetic lol. Also lastly stop contradicting your words because when you say I write my post just in different ways goes to show how much you lack a strong cognitive. Read your posts it clearly shows the same thing through-out with an addition of 1 thing and or just rewritten in a different way.

Change mind: If you want this so called 1v1 by all means you can do so on consoles since I transferred. GT is at the very bottom

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Rune_Relic wrote: »

xylena wrote: »

stam dk is very strong (maybe OP) for the same reason magicka sorc is... stacking your primary resource gives you both offense and defense without any tradeoff... magicka sorcs can do huge burst damage and can stack huge shields forever... stam dks can do huge burst damage and block/heal forever

neither build needs a nerf, the game simply needs softcaps back... minmaxing is the true OP

Amen.. to the reason.

Don't agree with the fix though
Soft caps is an admission of being incompetent at balancing a game.
Granted thats fair by historical experience.
But I would rather have them do the job properly instead of half arsed and lazy.

You will simply have min/maxers cap everything instead...like before.

Time to post this again. Originally posted on a CAP thread. This reflexion came from a discussion between me and a friend of mine, who is a senior game designer working for Ubisoft and before at Quantic Dream and others.

"Basically, the must needed balanced between magicka and stamina is now here and was not in 1.5 and before BUT can we please watch at the 2 basic mecanics in any MMO.

1. cooldown based game. This allow to balance skills easily. You just can't spam THE "one-shot oriented skill" and need to use a big variety of skills to go
2. ressources management based game. A cap (soft and hard) is needed because if you can have almost "infinite" ressource, you just have to spam your "one-shot oriented skill" (RD, concealed weapon etc)

With the 1.6+ meta you can have "infinite" ressources, so anyone just go for the biggest possible dps skill. It gives poor variety of builds and rotations.

Another issue is that ressources give DPS. It should not. It should goes like this :
. ressources give you the pool to spam your skills (wich should be soft caped)
. regen give you the time between 2 completes empty pool (wich should be soft caped)
. spell/weapon damage is for the dps increase, plus the pen (wich should be soft caped)
. armor/spell resist is for damage mitigation (wich should be soft caped)
. Crit gives % chances to do more dps (wich should be soft caped)

CP buffs shall be soft caped too, lets say at +20% buff max per item.

The cap problem with 1.5 system was that the caps where way too low, just raise them a bit so that hybrid and specialists builds can work together and can be as competitive.

this system can give a lot more variety of builds because more or less, anyone can Play As You Want and be competitive. Then ZOS should just tweak numbers and based cost of each skill to balance the game.

Example : lets say a Crystal fragment gives 1000 damage, and cost 100 magicka. If you have a bigger magicka pool + regen, you can spam it more. Another player who invest more in a hybrid build can deal the same amont of damage with Crystal fragment, but can't spam it a lot while he can use, let's say WB in is rotation with a good result too. Combinasion are almost endless and fair like this."

So yeah, caps are needed.

Mr_Koh

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Mr_Koh Lol you never asked for a 1v1 you just stated that you're better than me which obviously you're far from it. Honestly I can say right now I don't need to 1v1 because why bother with someone as immature as you? My talk didn't get bigger you just started huffing and puffing because I clearly pointed out the obvious i.e. that you need better rotation and need to stop whining about getting wrecked.

You call me pathetic but have you seen your previous posts? I mean come on now that's pathetic, you throwing a tantrum over someone telling you that you need to learn to play better, now that's truly pathetic lol. Also lastly stop contradicting your words because when you say I write my post just in different ways goes to show how much you lack a strong cognitive. Read your posts it clearly shows the same thing through-out with an addition of 1 thing and or just rewritten in a different way.

Change mind: If you want this so called 1v1 by all means you can do so on consoles since I transferred. GT is at the very bottom

@MaxwellCrystal lmfao a console player. That says it all. We can 1v1 on the PTS since I'll probably be ahead on live since you're on console. And yes you Def are writing the same posts in different ways.

You might make an excuse about how you uninstalled the PTS, or how your computer exploded. These are the type of excuses a person like you would make as you hide behind your words, but if you're interested in the life of someone with balls you would accept the challenge.

MaxwellC

@Mr_Koh Lol I did say I transferred it doesn't matter what CP you are I'll still wreck a person who has bad rotations, feel free to message me on consoles. So come and fight me on consoles if you so wish but nevertheless.

Yet again you've contradicted yourself, how many times must I point this out? You may continue to post your contradictions. I still find it funny how you make your point saying I make excuses when you've been making them from the get go since you got wrecked by an easily avoidable skill lol

Mr_Koh

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Mr_Koh Lol I did say I transferred it doesn't matter what CP you are I'll still wreck a person who has bad rotations, feel free to message me on consoles. So come and fight me on consoles if you so wish but nevertheless.

Yet again you've contradicted yourself, how many times must I point this out? You may continue to post your contradictions. I still find it funny how you make your point saying I make excuses when you've been making them from the get go since you got wrecked by an easily avoidable skill lol

@MaxwellCrystal I do not have a console, but you have a pc. If you would wreck me on pc please come try. Since you're so confident you really have no excuse.

MaxwellC

@Mr_Koh If I can still fight you tell me as I've transferred to consoles a while back. I'm definitely confident as I always incorporate different rotations based on what's hitting me the most unlike someone who has to make a post dedicated to a so called "OP Build" lol.

Also please stop with the "excuse" nonsense as if anyone looks at your post, heck even the first post all shows you've made a excuse to justify how much of a bad rotation you have. You talk about wrecking blow killing you therefore making this post then say Its a DK and it's an OP build due to the new improvements to the battle roar passive. All of this turns into one thing a huge EXCUSE.

Addition also I sent you a message of a summary of my first sentence in this post, I'd rather continue it via messages due to this post being irrelevant to what the topic originated from; which was you complaining about an "OP build" that used wrecking blow.

Side note: DKs have been nerf''d so hard yet it's still OP when almost all class skills have been nerf'd thus far.

Mr_Koh

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Mr_Koh If I can still fight you tell me as I've transferred to consoles a while back. I'm definitely confident as I always incorporate different rotations based on what's hitting me the most unlike someone who has to make a post dedicated to a so called "OP Build" lol.

Also please stop with the "excuse" nonsense as if anyone looks at your post, heck even the first post all shows you've made a excuse to justify how much of a bad rotation you have. You talk about wrecking blow killing you therefore making this post then say Its a DK and it's an OP build due to the new improvements to the battle roar passive. All of this turns into one thing a huge EXCUSE.

Addition also I sent you a message of a summary of my first sentence in this post, I'd rather continue it via messages due to this post being irrelevant to what the topic originated from; which was you complaining about an "OP build" that used wrecking blow.

Side note: DKs have been nerf''d so hard yet it's still OP when almost all class skills have been nerf'd thus far.

Message me at Mr.koh in game when you want to lose. Stop trying to put me to sleep with these bedtime stories that you're writing. @MaxwellCrystal

MaxwellC

Lol this guy is a joke