Endless DC people being farmed by EP

qsnoopyjr

So I just transferred to Chillrend as a DC player.

I joined a group that is in teamspeak. 22 players in the group.
We attack EP. We wipe to EP
We attack EP again. We wipe to EP.
We attack EP AGAIN. We wipe to EP.
[snip] is the commander wiping us.

I tell the entire server STOP attacking EP, because they farming us.
They run back to Aleswell, GET FARMED again by EP.
Fort Ash is undefended, its AD controlled. ATTACK ASH. ATTACK ASH. STOP suiciding run to EP.
"oooh they got our scrolls... *means we cant attack AD*"
I inform them they all can continue to get farmed, that if they smart enough they'll attack Ash and put EP on the offensive since we aren't attacking them.. And we can beat them by playing Defense and farm them instead of us.

They ignore... Go back to attacking EP at Aleswell.
They got farmed YET AGAIN.

So frustrating.
Fort Ash is just as good as Fort Aleswell, YET you chose to go get yourself farmed by [snip] rather than get a free fort undefended.

Saw this on Azura Star before I left.
DC #1 player has 1.9M points, AD #1 player has 1.2M points..... EP #1 player 3.9M points.
All because sheep continuously run to EP zerg and allows themselves to be farmed..
Go all up sneak mode on there keeps, everyone is on siege.. [snip] is waiting, he aint going no where. Comes out kills everyone on siege. EZ points.
That's why they have twice the amount of points we have.

ATTACK AD
ATTACK AD
ATTACK AD
... Nope we gonna go let EP farm us.. [snip] online, that means we go attack EP and be farmed, no attacking AD when he's online.

Just so frustrating, I'm not gonna play PvP if all everyone wants to do is get farmed.
Funny thought came across my mind.
What if those people that form large groups... Purposefully bring us to EP, purposely allow the people they leading to get farmed.
Nothing but friggin sheep, that's why I'm guesting for a bit. I'm not gonna waste another SEVERAL hours, continuously attacking (not defending) and being farmed by EP.

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Ifthir_ESO

Just leave that crappy group and get a new group/crew

hammayolettuce

Sounds like another usual Open pug group that has a hard-on for Chal. Nothing new here on the DC side.

Pchela

I keep picturing [snip] looming over Aleswell and Chalman like some giant ominous creature that you're so terrified of. But then I think of [snip] in BIG and it's just not the same scary figure as you're portraying him to be.

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qsnoopyjr

Pchela wrote: »

I keep picturing [snip] looming over Aleswell and Chalman like some giant ominous creature that you're so terrified of. But then I think of [snip] in BIG and it's just not the same scary figure as you're portraying him to be.

Serious, basically I just see 12 players he rolls with.
When they on top of us, immediately half the group I'm in wipes (22 of us). seconds later everyone in vicinity of the area is dead.

You must never seen him in game. Just wait till he's on your server.
You'll know why everyone talks about him.

His groups are just... Super coordinated. Even if your in voice he still wins.

I don't really mind him being a good player. Its just when your group/server knows a good player is at a Fort defending it hard...

Then they keep going back to that fort after several wipes...

While another fort (Fort Ash) by a different alliance is undefended and your group is in serious need of a morale booster from wiping continuously...

Then you get told to go back to Aleswell ([snip] is at that fort defending it)..

Nah.
Screw that, I'm guesting to another server where there doing decent and not continuously being farmed on purpose.

...

Then you check the personal scores like I did.
You realize your alliance and another alliance is similar scores.
Then you realize EP has twice the amount of points your players have..
Then you realize the people your group keeps running back to, to get farmed are the people with those points.
...
Time to do something else while everyone gets farmed for hours.
I've been through this with Azura Star already.
Attack someone else, stop attacking the same person that just wiped you over and over.

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Valindor Magnus

VE were at aleswell, thanks for the 30k ap, same time tomorrow?

Satiar

I don;t think it was [snip] at Aleswell. We were all wondering why you guys kept pushing us there?

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Teargrants

You blues kept coming back and back and back, every 30 sec after wiping one swarm there'd be another coming over the opposite hill.

qsnoopyjr

Satiar wrote: »

I don;t think it was [snip] at Aleswell. We were all wondering why you guys kept pushing us there?

Nah it is, I just died by him 4 times in a row in less than 15 minutes.
Started with a failed scroll attempt, group wanted to take the keep instead of taking the scroll. We got to top, in perfect position. Yet [snip] rolled in and just the sight of him knocked half the group dead. Serious.

Some other EP took Aleswell, we run back to try and get Ales.... [snip] again wipes everyone while they on there ballistas. Everyone decides fights at Aleswell, they all run back 1 by 1, farmed 1 by 1. Die and run back again, this time I say to myself enough is enough.

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Ley

I gave up a long time ago trying to reason with the pug blob that just bounces back and forth getting farmed. Problem is, during certain times of day there's really nothing else going on anywhere on the map. Unless you feel like trying to put together and leading a group yourself, you're stuck trying to make the pug blob work or roaming a mostly otherwise empty map looking for people to kill.

I often find myself feeling forced into a healing roll with the pug blob because I can't stand to see them dieing every 2 minutes. I figure if I can be responsible for keeping 5-10 of them alive long enough, sometimes we actually accomplish something or at least hold EP off long enough to feel like we're kinda on the defense a little.

TwilightDragonite

It's true, all of EP is led by a giant, towering effigy of [snip], our warrior god-king.

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Erwen

poor [snip]...

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Dyride

[snip] is Dee Tick. Dee Tick is [snip].

Half life 3 confirmed.

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Aquanova

Hey if it's any consolation, EP is getting that same treatment from AD in Thorn lol

frozywozy

For all the DCs complaining over and over again about getting farmed by EP, just switch to another campaign and compete with less organized groups of your caliber. easy enough.. plus it will unstack Chillrend.

... Or analyze your death recap, do some theory crafting, whisper enemy players if they are willing to share some of their knowledges and get better at the game.

Ifthir_ESO

frozywozy wrote: »

... Or analyze your death recap, do some theory crafting

The theory crafting around a death recap full of the same things from the 8 guys who gang your solo char down is to go play another game.

Just saying.

frozywozy

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

... Or analyze your death recap, do some theory crafting

The theory crafting around a death recap full of the same things from the 8 guys who gang your solo char down is to go play another game.

Just saying.

Analyze your death recap ....... do some theory crafting. Two different things. Got it?

The_Drexill

It also helps to be outnumbered easily 2:1, generally much greater. Bads are bad... bads get farmed. That's the name of the game. The problem I see is how little it takes to coordinate a zerg group... it's not hard, there's a nub addon with a little green arrow to follow crown, and you cast proximity det and barrier when the leader calls for it. Drool on self, get AP, repeat.

Akrasjel

Not everyone (can) dedicate(s) X amount of time to be a "pro" or whatever. Nothing wrong in being casual... in such situation one need to try to group with other guilds to make a bigger force.

Earendal

The_Drexill wrote: »

The problem I see is how little it takes to coordinate a zerg group... it's not hard

Not to play into this obvious troll, but what guilds have you led? Do you know, or have, what it takes to lead a group? If your mistaken idea was actually the case, PUG groups wouldn't be getting rolled by our, and many other's, far inferior numbers. The ability to read the field and make calls on the fly, as the situation dictates, is much harder than you make it out to be. We have some of the best leaders in the game, this includes rhm([snip]), and they are a major reason for our success.

Another point I might add is that if you took away either part of the necessary equation, skilled leaders and skilled players, the outcome would be much different. While it may require a different skill-set than 1v1 or solo play, I assure you that playing in a coordinated group is anything but mindless and it is far from as simple as you make it out to be. Ask anyone who has either played in or led a skilled group. Of course, it's possible that we're the skill-less noobs that you make us out to be. I encourage you to prove us wrong, and show us how easy it is. Grab the first 15-23 people to ask for a group invite and point them in our direction. Everyone knows DC could use the help. We'll be waiting.

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God_flakes

I am convinced snoopy is [snip]. His ego is THAT enormous.

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EIGHTS

I saw you talk about that today.
This is one reason why I don't group.
They just go to die. XD

Actually it happened again and again from long time ago.
I asked the same question before.
Some DC players hate me talk too much in zone chat and ignore me.

I think it's useless to suggest anything.
Just playing, earning AP and finding fun yourself.

Domander

It sounds like your group keeps attacking the keep, and it keeps getting defended..... and this is "getting farmed" ?..

IxSTALKERxI

DC really need some of their experienced players to share their knowledge and help their players. From my perspective as an AD player, I find DC pugs are a lot weaker then EP pugs. Some of the things I see them do don't make sense.

Sounds like you should of tried capping a keep deeper in EP territory rather then continuing to hit aleswell. Perhaps siege chalman? It would stop more EP from porting to aleswell and they may be lazy and port south to hit AD instead. Or even ninja dragonclaw? [snip] is only 1 man and can only be in one place at a time. One group shouldn't deter you from attacking their whole faction altogether.

Also that Tom Hanks video made my day. lol.

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WRX

Is this supposed to be a poem orrr??

#Peri2.0

Epsilon_Echo

So you think DC pugs are going to get better by avoiding fights and taking undefended keeps? Winning and getting better are not always the same thing.

AhPook_Is_Here

And they said Vivec wasn't in the game.

Zyle

inb4mods

EIGHTS

I can only say...You don't play DC.
You don't know what we mean.

Sigh...

Zheg

I remember running into him and 2 of his friends while they were sieging a keep off the beaten path. Me and a friend attacked, and then instantly started lagging though there were no major fights happening on the map (I had a literal lol moment in ts at that). If you catch them away from their zergball and aren't doing dumb things during the fight, they're no harder to kill than most other experienced players.

If you keep banging your head against the wall and let them farm you at Ales farm, or glade tower, or wherever else they set up the AP farm, it's your own fault.

One thing I've noticed is that DC alliance ranks across the board are significantly lower than AD's typically, and even moreso than EP's. I don't know if it's because DC tends to play more alts (I know I do) whereas other factions stick with one character, or just because EP gets a ton more AP than DC does because of crap like the tower farms this thread is complaining about. Either way, if you don't have enough AP where everyone has prox det, former emp, and the juicy alliance war passives in the group, you're going to be significantly disadvantaged against a zergball that does.

But anyway, while this thread highlights one problem, I'd also suggest figuring out which campaign is the laggy one, noticing how ironic it is that the lag seems to be on the same campaign as certain players, realize it can't possibly be that because ZOS said so (and because entertaining this thought on the forums gets your posts/threads edited), and move to the non-laggy campaign. Doing this would also allow you to completely avoid the problem you mention in your OP

OtarTheMad

I can feel ZOS coming... oh crap!!